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Reply #60 - 05/12/10 at 13:15:02
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/12/10 at 12:46:23:
Midnight -

Electric cars have a long way to go before they become practical for anything other than short errands.  I just returned to my office from a lunch meeting with a client in a town 75 miles away.  That was a 150 mile drive on a nasty rainy day that required me to drive with headlights on and wipers working.  No way could I have done that in a present technology electric car.


Jerry you can have video conferences and meetings over your computer, the technology is already there. Youre running a business and are always concerned with cutting cost, why drive 150 mi? Or is it easier to drive 150mi and cut back on your employees benefits? Thats exactly what I'm talking about. If the money being spent on destroying our oceans was being spent on battery research we would soon have lightweight efficient batteries for electric vehicles. Give the money that its gonna take to clean up the Gulf to the right person or persons and you'll have an efficient electric vehicle. Jerry watch this video and tell me about how great the oil companies and big business are.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77pBcf0o444&feature=related
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Reply #61 - 05/12/10 at 13:34:34
 
Midnight _

We do some video conferences.  Last year I took a deposition of a witness in Paris (not Paris, KY) by video - what a nightmare.  I had to start at 3 AM due to the time difference, and the connection broke up several times.

Again, the technology is there, but far from perfect.

When you're in my business, you need to see many folks face to face - sizing up a witness in person is often as important, sometimes more so, than what they actually say.  You'd be surprised how a jury will pick up on body language and facial expressions.
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Reply #62 - 05/12/10 at 13:38:06
 
  If the price of gas goes up everything you have to buy goes up.It did a couple of years ago and when gas came down some the prices on other things didn't.To me they could and extra tax on any car or truck that doesn't get 22 mpg.I was in construction all my life never had a 4 wheel drive.My son and my 3 son in laws all have 4 wheel drive,My sons average 12 mpg,It got big wheels,going down the freeway at 70 mph it shows 12 mpg.
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Reply #63 - 05/12/10 at 13:51:12
 
Bill -

You hit the nail on the head.  Of course, where you live in Wisconsin, aren't your winters fairly snowy?  But of course, far less construction is done in the winter, I'd suppose.

There is presently a Federal gas guzzler tax, but it's only on cars; not trucks.  And 22 mpg is far too low.  Any normal car, driven by normal, middle class people, should get 30+ mpg.

Last week I did see Labron James' Maybach.  I'm sure it gets around 8 mpg, but then there's only one Labron James.
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Reply #64 - 05/12/10 at 14:00:37
 
  We still worked all winter but didn't need a 4 wheel drive. 22 for regular pickups and 30 for cars.
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Reply #65 - 05/12/10 at 14:04:46
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/12/10 at 13:51:12:
Bill -

You hit the nail on the head.  Of course, where you live in Wisconsin, aren't your winters fairly snowy?  But of course, far less construction is done in the winter, I'd suppose.

There is presently a Federal gas guzzler tax, but it's only on cars; not trucks.  And 22 mpg is far too low.  Any normal car, driven by normal, middle class people, should get 30+ mpg.

Last week I did see Labron James' Maybach.  I'm sure it gets around 8 mpg, but then there's only one Labron James.



and Obama says:

"The Obama administration finalized the first national rules curbing greenhouse gas emissions Thursday, mandating that the U.S. car and light-truck fleet reach an average fuel efficiency of 35.5 miles per gallon by 2016.

The new fuel efficiency standards, issued by the Transportation Department and the Environmental Protection Agency as the result of a May 2009 deal with the auto industry, represent a peaceful end to a contentious legal battle over how to regulate tailpipe emissions. At a time when it remains unclear whether Congress can pass climate legislation this year, the new rules also mark the White House’s most significant achievement yet in addressing global warming.

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Environmentalists hailed the move, saying it will transform the American auto market in the years to come. [...] “This is the biggest step the federal government will have ever taken to save oil, cut greenhouse emissions and save consumers money,” said David Friedman, research director of the clean vehicles program at the Union of Concerned Scientists."

Did Jerry and Obama just kinda agree on something????
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Reply #66 - 05/12/10 at 14:15:19
 
LA -

You'd be surprised how much I agree with the President.

I also vehemently disagree with him on a few things, too.

So far into his presidency, Obama has impressed me as a fine man with a good heart and a sharp mind.  What he lacks is business experience, having never even run a lemonade stand.  That doesn't mean he's bad, just that he doesn't understand all aspects of every issue, particularly, business issues.

Of course, I don't understand all aspects of all issues either, but I don't think I'm in the running to be president.
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Reply #67 - 05/12/10 at 14:16:12
 
"If you have lots of time, trains may work.  But no way for a busy business person transacting business 1000+ miles form home, or even 500+ miles at that.

Next idea?"



Midnightrider is correct! Why are business people forever flying around the country for business meetings anyway? To pad expense accounts and have fun?
As MR alluded to, with today's technology I should think that 90% of business could be conducted via multi-person teleconferencing and that sort of thing. Maybe the other 10% of business really needs to be person to person.

There are actually advanced medical doctors who conduct delicate surgeries in far away places with physicians on the receiving end doing the work. The cameras are THAT GOOD.
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Reply #68 - 05/12/10 at 14:16:39
 
Because of wind resistance it would be hard for pickup to get that mileage.
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Reply #69 - 05/12/10 at 14:24:11
 
Midnight -

I meant to add that your comment about cutting employee benefits so I could drive to a meeting was out of bounds.

First of alll, clients pay auto mileage reimbursement.

Second, our benefit package is mighty nice.  We recently hired a young lady as a secretary here, and she was flabbergasted that we pay the full cost of employee's health insurance for a Cadillac plan.  Of course, since Obama's health care bill will tax Cadillac plans, maybe we'll have to reduce that benefit some - who is ultimately responsible for that?
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Reply #70 - 05/12/10 at 14:26:33
 
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Not if it's a reasonable sized pick up with a diesel engine and a manual transmission.

If it's a huge 5+ liter gasoline engine with an automatic, you're right.  Tell them to give up the huge truck ,the gas engine, and the automatic transmission.
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Reply #71 - 05/12/10 at 14:33:22
 
Star most businessmen believe they have to get their clients drunk before they will do business with them. Ever notice most meetings are over dinner and drinks? Big business can justify anything but its up to the poor working Americans to make all the sacrifices and cutbacks. Goverment is not your enemy. Goverment was put in place to help and protect the average citizen. Big business is the enemy. Big business is greed and coruption. Big Business is now controlling the goverment thanks to the Bush administration and for the most part Obama is playing right along with it. Obama made the statement 2 weeks ago Wall Street and Main Street America walk hand in hand. 20 years ago that statement could have been true but now nothing is further from the truth. We're still at war, whats that all about?
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Reply #72 - 05/12/10 at 14:34:58
 
Lifter -

Were you ever a salesperson?  Making a sales call by video conf. is about as effective as dating by video conf.

And what I do is sales - I just sell stories, not goods.

When I'm on an airliner, often monthly, the person sitting next to me is more often than not a salesperson or sales manager.
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Reply #73 - 05/12/10 at 14:41:38
 
Don’t worry the carbon gangsters are trying to strengthen and bring to power their Mafioso right now which “necessarily would cause electricity to skyrocket” as well as a higher cost of anything else related to energy and its use soon.
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Reply #74 - 05/12/10 at 14:50:08
 
Reelthing wrote on 05/12/10 at 14:41:38:
Don’t worry the carbon gangsters are trying to strengthen and bring to power their Mafioso right now which “necessarily would cause electricity to skyrocket” as well as a higher cost of anything else related to energy and its use soon.



do you have to be so drama queenish when you make a point Reelthing???    and could you stop taking your acting lessons from Glenn Beck   Grin
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