babyhog wrote on 06/10/10 at 13:24:50:


Yes! That's the American spirit we need now, just like we've needed before!

We also have laws to be followed. What we dont have is any real accountability for the rich. Its a rare day when a really BIG white collar crime gets punished properly. Our so called "Leaders" from both parties have been party to numerous, obvious (IMO) illegal acts & none are hanging from a gallows as they should be. We have companies operationg outside of common sense & making dangerous products that can almost NOT be avoided, & none of their leadership is paying the price. I speak of Monsanto. I also believe Archer Daniels Midland is helping to move the poisoned products into our dining room, tho Im not fully certain of their ways being intentionally evil. We have sex slavery rings thru DynCor & what did our govt do? They continue to get govt contracts.

Im saying, lets go after criminbal behavior. Lets have accountability, in biz & in govt. If I did half of what these creeps have done, Id be UNDER the jail.

Thankfully, Elliot Spitzer of New York met his due in the end

Yea, just as he was getting ready to lower the boom on some folks.. they shut him up.

Sure, they get a few,

If you arent up to speed on GMO crops & what they do, spend some time, Jerry. Youll be glad ya did.

Justin -

Some automatic correction device in the forum changed a word in my prior post.  

Look at the word before "monger".  I didn't type "sleeper".  I typed the word commonly used to refer to practicioners of the world's oldest profession.

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 06/11/10 at 09:19:32:



I see it from your side Jerry, I do. I also remember hearing who he was investigating & about to take down. I cant remember now, but it struck me as a big deal at the time. Just as , ohhh who was it? Trafficant! yea, okay, James TRafficant. He made a speech on the house floor & was making a ruckus about the fed & some of the financial mess we were walking into. he admitted to the corruption he had commited, saying"Yea, I did that. I did every bit of that. So has everyone here." The point is, when people start to rock the boat, unless theyre squeaky clean, they get the shaft. Then, if they cant be blackmailed by their past actions or bribed, their plane blows up or they go to jail, but the system will protect itself.

Yea, that guy has the worlds worst rug.. always has. I think he sees it as his trademark. A coonskin cap would look better..

LA -

I don't intend to be disrespectful, but I am glad you have so much experience with corp. boards, as you make factual allegations that can only come from experience.

Now for reality - in the past couple of decades, I have turned down invitations to serve on a couple of boards for the very reason that I don't want to be the target of this rubbish.  I know many others who, in past times, could have contributed a given skill or knowledge set, but chose not to for the same reasons.  The same reason I turned down a judgeship when it was offered - I don't want my family or me to be a political target either.

It's truly a shame that some folks take such a one-sided, uninformed view of the business world, without ever having been there themselves, or at least not at the upper levels.

As for expressing your displeasure with any one company, or group of companies, simply stop buying their products or services.  That's called "voting with your pocketbook", the most powerful vote anyone has.  If you hate Walmart, don't shop there.  If you hate BP, quit buying their gas.

If enough people feel as you do (the true measure of impetus in any democracy, right?), the company will get the message that its customers want something to change.  Otherwise, if a large number of people don't so join you, the majority's decision carries the day.

Are you old enough to remember 30 years ago when the Detroit auto companies turned out crap?  If you are, you also recall how Detroit quality has vastly improved, since the majority of American consumers started buying Hondas, Toyotas, VWs, BMWs, etc.

Maybe the same reason that the once all-powerful manufacturer, Harley Davidson is in the shape it is now.  You do own a Japanese motorcycle, right?  Why?  The majority of riders voted with their pocketbooks.