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mick

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Re: $1500 fine
Reply #15 - 10/06/10 at 14:42:24

Serowbot wrote on 10/06/10 at 12:00:56:

I'd make them take me to court...
How do you know that you're not being shaken down by the Russian bit-torrent, otherwise...
Plus,.. it'll cost them more than $1500.00 to take you to court...
Just say you can't be sure otherwise...

You can't trust that it's not a fraudulent claim over the net, phone, or mail...

Maybe Jerry E. can advise?... Huh

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Jerry cant help , not his forte. Only deals with aircraft.
No Pro Bono either.
My niece did see a lawyer a 10 minute free consultation, he has handled this type of thing before, he advised her to pay the 1500.
he said if it does go to court they have his IP address and can prove it,and it gets very spendy with a chance of jail.
If I was going to copy a movie I would rent the movie copy it and take it back, no harm no foul.
The thing is his mom has warned him several times.He has $5000 in savings ,for every buck he saved my sister would match it,he was going to get it on his 18th B/day next month.shame realy,he had big plans for that money,perhaps he can buy some movies with the change.

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mick Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Hell-bound Posts: 7323 Dayton Oregon Gender:	Re: $1500 fine Reply #17 - 10/06/10 at 15:18:04 bill67 wrote on 10/06/10 at 14:51:04: Is a aircraft lawyer,One of those fly by night lawyer yes Bill ,I think they fly by day too.
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Re: $1500 fine
Reply #18 - 10/06/10 at 15:33:38

If the little bugger has been warned already then perhaps this will be a lesson learnt.

I'm curious though.. Is this sort of fine common in the States and who is issuing them..? They may have an ip address but how do they know it was your nephrew that downloaded it and not a neighbour hacking into an unsecure wireless router? Of course PC equipment would have to be taken for investigation.. no..?

We have all been young once Mick and I'm certain we've done a million silly things...

Let it be a lesson.. all be it a costly one..

Andy

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Re: $1500 fine
Reply #19 - 10/06/10 at 15:35:16

23Skidoo wrote on 10/06/10 at 01:31:15:

I assume his name does not appear on the internet providers bill how come his parents did not take the wrap? I thought this was quite hard to prove as you could claim that someone has tapped into your wireless connection and downloaded using your ip. Not that I know anything about state laws.

If they don't have a wireless router, they can buy one for less than $100 ....
Go to court and tell them somebody else must have logged in and done it...
They can't prove anything...
... and you might want to delete the movie off the hard drive, but they won't check anyway,... I bet they wouldn't even take it to court...
They'd loose...

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Re: $1500 fine
Reply #20 - 10/06/10 at 15:49:06

As a note.. Last week in the UK a list has been leaked from a legal firm listing not only the IP address but name and post code of people downloading mainly porn and music via torrent sites on the Murdoch internet provider... The list has been posted all over the internet and we've all had a laugh to see who and what our neighbours have been downloading.. We are one weird bunch in the UK..... Grin

Or as we prefer.. Eccentric....

But goes to show big brother is watching...

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Re: $1500 fine
Reply #21 - 10/06/10 at 20:00:31

23Skidoo wrote on 10/06/10 at 15:49:06:

As a note.. Last week in the UK a list has been leaked from a legal firm listing not only the IP address but name and post code of people downloading mainly porn and music via torrent sites on the Murdoch internet provider... The list has been posted all over the internet and we've all had a laugh to see who and what our neighbours have been downloading.. We are one weird bunch in the UK..... Grin

Or as we prefer.. Eccentric....

I dont feel like typing ALL that is wrong here,

BUT

Real freedom loving people wouldnt even look at that list. Their privacy is as important as yours & mine. IF,,, IF,,,IF, we allow the govt to make us look at ANY group as deserving treatment other than the treatment WE want for ourselves,

THEN

all that needs done is for someone to make the group WE belong to look like the Bad Guys & sudddenly

OUR rights are no longer protected..

SO, we need to ALL want the rights of others treated with respect.
Else we risk our own.

But goes to show big brother is watching...

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