Warning -- what follows is stated in Billish


Bill, have you ever had squirrels get into your attic?



Btw, glad you are feeling all frisky this morning -- it is a nice day, crisp and fallish outside to be sure.



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Everybody,  some food for thought, read this

http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/13771/page1/


I got botted at least once that I can remember -- would put the stupid machine into sleep mode and it would wake itself up every few hours to go "do something".   Applied Conflicker worm removal tool to fix that particular funny acting thang as Conflicker was going around heavy at the time.

Odds are about a third of the people reading this are sitting in front of a zombie bot and don't even know it ... commercial zombie bot writers are hard to catch as they have learned not to use your machine when you are moving the mouse or typing on the keyboard, -- they now reserve their activity to when you are idle for more than 30 minutes.  

And the really smartest of the lot shows you a Microsoft Update download symbol on your tool bar when your PC is actually busy attacking the Pentagon's secure servers or spewing out porn on preschool children's play sites.

     

wolfmrp wrote on 10/15/10 at 19:22:23:

 Dangit I was trying to keep this simple  
Ok yes it is good but there are differences out there based upon your hardware, what you are attempting to do what you currently are used to etc.. Now Wolfy is right that Linux as the base is very very good ... BUT will not bore with details..... Ok for those interested please:  http://distrowatch.com/ to get an idea... Now for those who just wanna say EEEFF it! What can i use instead of Windows without havin ta lern all this fangeled doodads!  Please:
http://ultimateedition.info/
Whats nice is that you download the NEW AWESOME no virus never will have it not hackable Operating System that can run windows software right out of the box... Burn it to dvd and run it to see if you would like it without installing it WHATSOEVER... cool eh?
Youll thank me later.. Oh an Wolfey you can run all yer windows pcs virtually from that debian based distro simultaneously on 4 different desktops or from a cube if you like ...   sooo much for keepin this simple like our bikes!!    Im duckin for cover now!!!
examples of what we talking about:

I've looked at Linux for years now and have to admit the only thing that stops me now is laziness, some favorite games and my wife's school computers which have to remain MS to match up with the University's standards.

Linux Mint has all the "proprietary drivers" already in it and they are working on NOT driving off Ubuntu but going directly back to Debian Unstable and running as an automatically self-updating version of Debian.

This means no releases to chase, ever -- all change is incremental and seamless.   I like this idea as I despise the thought of going through full OS reloads and fudge fixes every 6 months to a year.

The Mint folks are getting tired of chasing after Ubuntu's release cycle as of late the Ubuntu releases are too buggy and too little real meat in the upgrades -- too much flash & fluff stuff that they have to remove and fix.

Looks like Ultimate is trying to provide all drivers and all the Wine all together with all the Compriz and other neat stuff all at once (which is a hell of a LOT of work) -- but they will get caught up by the 6 month Ubuntu release update cycle and get wrung through the wringer like everybody else that bases off Ubuntu releases.

Manning to do the new releases is the issue that Ubuntu based distros have to deal with -- to refix every new edition requires a lot of work and man-hours.   And it never ends.


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BTW, bot writers have branched over into Linux, but they aren't attacking distros yet (because they are many many distros and added all together they only cover 2-6% of the PCs in use) but they are writing exploits against your very common D-Link router's internal linux software which allow them to use your internet connection directly through the router itself (a D-Link router is a complete linux operating station) to execute their bot software.  

Pretty slick actually, and you would never ever see it except as a slow down of internet service.   And it is impossible for anti-viral or anti-spyware softwares on your PC to detect or stop as they don't go upstream to your router to check anything.