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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #345 - 12/11/10 at 05:28:02 And are we going to have any pity for the vertical diehards when they wonder why their engine life is only 1/2 as long as long as our "more oil" side stand engines,....that just keep "going and going and going and going and going"?!
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Reply #346 - 12/11/10 at 06:33:44

All we have to do is keep looking for any potential downsides and keep on talking, they will eventually get the picture.

So far we have 30 people looking at the side stand method objectively and that is quite a few people studying the situation -- and the fact that no downside has appeared yet is relatively encouraging to anyone who is considering the change.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #347 - 12/11/10 at 06:35:01 I wonder how long the engine would last with 4 quarts in it,Probably into the next century.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12686 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #348 - 12/11/10 at 09:02:28 4 quarts would be too much normal oil -- unless of course it was Klotz Red Magic then it would be a 2 lifetimes supply since you never ever have to change it.
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Reply #349 - 12/11/10 at 11:15:24

potential downside to the sidestand method....my clutch would slip from time to time unless i let the bike warm up real good first. Only would slip on the first take off out the driveway. After that it was golden but if i didnt give it a solid few minutes to get good and toasty id slip the first 10-15ft down the driveway before the clutch would finally catch.

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12686 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #350 - 12/11/10 at 12:22:02 Burn, let me guess -- 20w50 weight dino oil?
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Reply #351 - 12/12/10 at 05:26:24

BurnPgh wrote on 12/11/10 at 11:15:24:

potential downside to the sidestand method....my clutch would slip from time to time unless i let the bike warm up real good first. Only would slip on the first take off out the driveway. After that it was golden but if i didnt give it a solid few minutes to get good and toasty id slip the first 10-15ft down the driveway before the clutch would finally catch.

I been wonderin if your post is serious,......only because at launch, I'm 30-50 feet down the driveway before I ever fully engage the clutch,.....no question mines slippin ! Grin

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Reply #352 - 12/12/10 at 06:41:13

He could be serious -- I have noted that clutch issues seem to cluster around people using 20w50 motor oils and these issues seem to be worse when the engine is cold and the oil is very thick and viscous.

Folks using 10w40 oils jest don't see the same incidence rate of slip problems, makes you sorta wonder about that 20w50 stuff ....

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ralfyguy Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 932	Re: oil level in window Reply #353 - 12/12/10 at 20:36:48 I used Lucas 20W-50 for years and never had a clutch issue. I switched to Rot Syn 5W-40 last time.
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Reply #354 - 12/12/10 at 21:49:28

ebonysresearch wrote on 12/10/10 at 16:46:07:

Pull the engine and shake it was awesome!

Digger! Holy apparatus to check your oil! Are you serious...man grab some front brake and tip her upright. this bike only weighs so much.

I've done that, too, with nary a problem.

I posted my Rube Goldberg setup because I use it sometimes to keep the bike level while I'm working on it and I'm too lazy to put it up on the stand.

However, I always give the oil window a look when I have the bike sitting level like this.....why not?

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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #355 - 12/12/10 at 21:51:22 Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 12/10/10 at 17:13:12: Digger sounds like one of the five who had his Savage fall on his headbone at some time or another...... Nope, never did. It did worry me at times, though!
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Reply #356 - 12/13/10 at 09:43:28

Maybe Im just more flexible than others, IDK, But, I can check oil by facing the rear & as I drop to one knee, I just grab the throttle end O the bars. & bring it over a bit. So what if a level wouldnt be dead on>? Its OIL,, theres a RANGE of "Oil Level Is OOOOKay". It can be higher than the top line or lower than the top line, it doesnt have to be done with an eye dropper.. people are WAAY too anal about this. its not that hard.

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feelinjunky Full Member Offline No Comment Posts: 238 NJ	Re: oil level in window Reply #357 - 12/13/10 at 19:04:57 Why do people put 20W-50 when the manual recommends 10W-40? Works in the same temperature range, so I don't see the reason for it. There should be a separate poll for "Which oil viscosity do you use?"
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Reply #358 - 12/14/10 at 18:26:35

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/13/10 at 09:43:28:

Maybe Im just more flexible than others, IDK, But, I can check oil by facing the rear & as I drop to one knee, I just grab the throttle end O the bars. & bring it over a bit. So what if a level wouldnt be dead on>? Its OIL,, theres a RANGE of "Oil Level Is OOOOKay". It can be higher than the top line or lower than the top line, it doesnt have to be done with an eye dropper.. people are WAAY too anal about this. its not that hard.

Right,
the oil level is not critical, thats the point of all this
Anal ??,.....thats your take of it
Its not hard ??
For you, maybe not,...for me its just plain dangerous, and unnecessary,.....and stupid way of checking oil.

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Reply #359 - 12/14/10 at 19:49:29

Hey, fellows. Just checking back with ya'll. The last time I was here was after Thanksgiving. What was the question? I forget. Anyway, for a lot of you I'll just say that Christmas is coming up fast. The wife and kids will be expecting something. Maybe you should get up and take a shower, shave, get outside. I think this thread will be here when you get back. Best of luck to ya'. Merry Christmas, Boofer Wink

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