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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Anyone else heard about the new VW? 11/15/10 at 09:52:38 http://www.examiner.com/trendy-living-in-national/volkswagen-s-600-car-gets-2...
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Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW?
Reply #1 - 11/15/10 at 10:20:12

Midnightrider wrote on 11/15/10 at 09:52:38:

http://www.examiner.com/trendy-living-in-national/volkswagen-s-600-car-gets-2...

Assume 58-mpg for the LS650, 15,000 miles a yearly would take 258 gallons for the bike versus 58 gallons for the VW. Figure $5/gallon and you save $1000 a year. If the car is only $15K gasoline costs break even in 10 years. More likely they will cost $30K and the break even point is 25 years.

A rich toy for a 'green' person such as Al Gore.

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #2 - 11/15/10 at 10:27:35 Paladin read it again. The car is supposed to cost $600 in China. I'm wondering if its real. Its on several websites.
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #3 - 11/15/10 at 10:28:06 I looked it up,One place said $26000 if they produce it.
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Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW?
Reply #4 - 11/15/10 at 10:38:27

The news article is date july 2009.
If it were real it would've hit the streets already.

And let's get real... $600 for a carbon fiber skateboard? Maybe, but the materials alone for this car will send it well above $600 even in china.

Then 258 mpg will only be for freeway travel.

But I hope they do build it, burny needs a diesel thumper for his bike.

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Reply #5 - 11/15/10 at 10:39:00

I am a V-dub enthusiast, as well as a suzuki savage enthusiast. I currently have a 2010 CR TDI Jetta and have long believed in the power and longevity of diesel. Can this be real? I dont think so. First of all if it were possible why have we not seen the natural progression of events which would start with the most up to date technology and then slowly improve over time. The current VW diesels get, at best, 50-60 MPG and it is a big jump to 258 mpg. Realistically shouldnt there be a gradual climb to 258 mpg barring some unknown miracle technology (no mention of new technology in the article). Also the price of $600 cant be right. That much carbon fiber would cost more by itself let alone with all the components that make it a car. Hell I cant even get a couple of oil changes at my local VW dealer for less than $600. If this is for real (I will be surprised) then the price id definitely a typo.

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Reply #7 - 11/15/10 at 10:43:33

I sincerely doubt the car can retail for a mere $600, even if you have it assembled in a jailhouse with inmates working for free.

The mere cost of the parts to assemble is much beyond $600.

I also believe the car will actually be sold as a three-wheeler (it's a single seater, so why bother with automobile legislation?) hence, a motorcycle.

Last, the title says "1 liter for 100 kilos" which to me is weight, not distance.
Even if it were distance, I do not see it happening yet.
Italy is riddled with four wheelers (quads/ automobile wannabees) powered by 450cc diesel singles, but they get 50-60km/liter diesel, if they're lucky.

Incidentally, that VW's taillights look right out of a 1970's Citroen GS.

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youzguyz Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2557 San Antonio, Texas Gender:	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #8 - 11/15/10 at 10:45:09 Phelonius wrote on 11/15/10 at 10:39:10: AYE WANT ONE! Phelonius You gonna strap it on to the Webley Vickers to replace your hack?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29284 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #9 - 11/15/10 at 10:50:22 They need to make it a 2 seater that gets 120mpg... 1 seat is just too claustrophobic...
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Reply #10 - 11/15/10 at 11:08:18

I don’t see significant numbers of people buying a car that looks like this. Plus, it’s a two seater which means it's potential market is reduced which instantly increases purchase price.

High MPG, light weight, alternative powered cars are the Holy Grail of automotive engineers…..

There are dozens and dozens of companies (if not hundreds) who have also been working for a decade or more to make an electric or fuel cell powered car and have nothing to show for it except what amounts to expensive toys for rich guys to play with. The combination of a powerful battery (or fuel cell) with satisfactory driving range coupled with a lightweight carbon fiber vehicle is beyond the price range of the average consumer.
BMW has started to regularly use carbon fiber in their production cars and until several other manufactures go that route and drive down raw material and production cost, carbon fiber is out. Fuel cells have been ‘under development’ for 25+ years with little market share to show for it.
The bottom line is internal combustion engines, as messy as they may be, have the most economical energy density cost today. Hybrids of gas/battery give car companies the option to make a car using these powerplants that at least look and act like normal cars. The Toyota Prius is a decent little car (if you like small cars) that has carved out a piece of the automotive market. There are dozens of other similar smaller cars now like the Insight or MiniCooper. I wouldn’t put The Smart car into the same category, but it sells a few units.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #11 - 11/15/10 at 12:23:25 Hafta watch the diet. Get too fat or too gassy & that thing could get real unpleasant to be in.
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buttgoat1 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1042	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #12 - 11/15/10 at 12:45:14 yeah, that too I farted while riding with my daughter on back I could hear her say "nice one dad"......
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Reply #13 - 11/15/10 at 15:14:57

youzguyz wrote on 11/15/10 at 10:45:09:

Phelonius wrote on 11/15/10 at 10:39:10:

AYE WANT ONE!

Phelonius

You gonna strap it on to the Webley Vickers to replace your hack? Cheesy

I will modify it for hand controls for when My legs give out completely
maybe a year or two from now.

Phelonius

BTW the Webley Vickers got sold last March.
Here is the replacement.

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buttgoat1 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1042	Re: Anyone else heard about the new VW? Reply #14 - 11/15/10 at 16:51:02 nice!
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