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Reply #15 - 02/13/11 at 16:25:05

seat belts are a pain in the ass, I bet the difference in deaths now ,and in the 50s are about the same giving the same amount of drivers.
I hate trying to get out of a car that is on fire ,bloody seat belts are a neusance.I never wear mine, I have them rigged so I look like I am wearing them ,but they just lay accross my lap. I supose next someone will want seat belts on motorcycles,and god forbid we should put them on school busses.

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Reply #16 - 02/13/11 at 20:21:49

I bet the difference in deaths now ,and in the 50s are about the same giving the same amount of drivers.

Dont bet the farm n that one. Yea, there are tmes when the belt gets someone killed, just as I woulda died if I had been wearing a helmet the 1st time I totaled a bike, but then a helmet saved me from serious injury or death in another crash. I dont like wearing a seatbelt & in some places, I dont, but in other places, I do. Ive done bodywork & seen crashed cars. Amazing that people live thru & sometimes just walk away from, horrible crashes.

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Reply #17 - 02/14/11 at 03:49:37

mick wrote on 02/13/11 at 16:25:05:

seat belts are a pain in the ass, I bet the difference in deaths now ,and in the 50s are about the same giving the same amount of drivers.
I hate trying to get out of a car that is on fire ,bloody seat belts are a neusance.I never wear mine, I have them rigged so I look like I am wearing them ,but they just lay accross my lap. I supose next someone will want seat belts on motorcycles,and god forbid we should put them on school busses.

+ 1 How would you like to be upside down in a car and try to get out,With seat belts on.

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Reply #18 - 02/14/11 at 05:04:31

A friend of mine rolled a Jeep several times and finished upside down and unconscious, with the seat belt holding him in the seat. He had broken his neck in 2 places. The seat belt held him in traction, and a smart ambulance guy restrained his neck before he moved him. The seat belt saved his life and kept him from being a quadriplegic. I always wear a seat belt. Fires caused by accidents are rare, but to be on the safe side I keep a fire extinguisher in the door pocket beside me and a glass breaker within reach.

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Modern Cars Reply #19 - 02/14/11 at 06:00:14 When I was just out of high school,4 kids from the school were in a bad accident 2 thrown from the car lived, 2 that weren't died,Being thrown from the car saved their lives.
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Reply #20 - 02/14/11 at 06:59:36

Not uncommon for cars to crush those that get thrown out.

Seatbelts save lives & minimize injuries, generally. YOu can find instances where they dont. If you want to to use a statistically insignificant number of events as your model, go ahead. Ive seen lots of good wrecked cars as a bodyman. I saw one where a lady hit a stop sign from the side. It shoved the support sideways & the edge of the stopsign came thru the roof, slamming into the top of the steering wheel, right between her hands. No seatbelt? It woulda split her skull. It drove the steeringwheel into a Valentine shape. She took it home & kept it.
I do believe we should have the option. Having a cop tell me I hafta wear one is crap.

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Reply #21 - 02/14/11 at 09:14:28

Fires caused by accidents are rare, but to be on the safe side I keep a fire extinguisher in the door pocket beside me

I drive a diesel, there's little to zero chance a diesel car catch fire.

For the skeptics: drop a lit match in a bucket of diesel or kerosene, it'll go out like you dropped it in water.

Drive a diesel, save gas, save lives.

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Reply #22 - 02/15/11 at 11:25:18

Thanks all, his bruises have maxed out and he is well on the way to going back to work.
I think most of us do not want the police to tell us when to use seatbelts..and as I drive a school bus as my retirement hobby the thought of trying to belt up and unbealt 75 elementary age student is a nightmare in the making. The buses' seats are supposed to provide the bounce protection, the heavy guage frame the impact protection.
As a note, each school bus has a seatblet cutter at hand just in case the driver's belt doesn't function.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Modern Cars Reply #23 - 02/15/11 at 11:58:58 IDK why they dont put the seats in bakkerds in them busses. Maybe thatd make the kids barf, IDK.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Modern Cars Reply #24 - 02/15/11 at 12:04:46 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/15/11 at 11:58:58: IDK why they dont put the seats in bakkerds in them busses. Maybe thatd make the kids barf, IDK. certainly would solve a obesity problem. they'll just have to install floor drains.
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Modern Cars Reply #25 - 02/15/11 at 14:08:30 While the cleanup would be messy..perhaps ejection seats??
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Modern Cars Reply #26 - 02/15/11 at 16:50:24 Trippah wrote on 02/15/11 at 14:08:30: While the cleanup would be messy..perhaps ejection seats?? Im sure the drivers would like that, as long as he had the control on each seat...
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tcreeley Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 224	Re: Modern Cars Reply #27 - 02/15/11 at 16:59:02 10 years ago my wife called my son on his cell phone. H When he went to answer it, he lost his concentration and crossed the lane into the path of a pickup. She could hear the crash, the people, etc. He was driving an accent and the air bag saved him. The hyundhi was totaled. He was able to climb out his window. TC
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Reply #28 - 02/15/11 at 17:36:15

tcreeley wrote on 02/15/11 at 16:59:02:

10 years ago my wife called my son on his cell phone. H When he went to answer it, he lost his concentration and crossed the lane into the path of a pickup. She could hear the crash, the people, etc. He was driving an accent and the air bag saved him. The hyundhi was totaled. He was able to climb out his window.

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Im curious to know what changes were made after the crash. Ay sweeping changes? Like, Dont answ the hone, ever, while driving, let them leave a voice mail?

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Reply #29 - 02/16/11 at 02:18:36

As someone pointed out the science of crash testing is fairly new but it has brought great improvements in vehicle safety. Keep in mind that while those safety devices are made to stand up to the crash without breaking, they do sometimes make it hard to get out quickly after the crash. Seatbelts often lock or jam. Carry a seatbelt cutter and window shattering tool. Also know how to use them and which window it can be used on. These tools make good keychains and are usually avaiable for under $10. Not bad for a life saver.

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