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Re: The Project: Phase 2
Reply #75 - 04/09/11 at 18:57:49

I'm looking forward to seeing how you mount this thing. I'm using 12.5" shocks on my scrambler build and running into the same situation. If it looks like it's going to be too much of a headache to mount this thing think about just using a delrin chain slider on the swing arm like the dirt bike/dual sport bike guys do. Over at ADVrider.com I've seen tons of guys swear by these things. They claim thousands of miles and no apparent wear and lots of life left still. search ebay motors for delrin slider or chain slider and you'll get plenty of options. My only concern would be...just think of the downward pressure that will be placed on the third sprocket every time you gas it. Either way, I'm still anxious to see how you do it. best of luck...
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Reply #76 - 04/10/11 at 05:09:40

Here's what I'm thinking. This is a picture of the Ryca rearset mount. Notice the box section tubing. Thats the area that's between the swingarm and belt.

Here it is mounted on the bike. The shot from the brake side gives a clearer view of where the box section fits in the scheme of things, though you can make it out somewhat in the shot of the belt side.

Plan A is to just notch the bottom of the box section for chain clearance. If that doesn't look feasible after I get the rough assembly done, then Plan B is the idler sprocket. It looks like I could cut the angle off the idler's arm and then weld it to the back face of the box section so the sprocket sits low enough to hold the chain away from the rearset mount.

As for rubbing against the top of the swingarm, yeah, a delrin slider is probably the answer, though its additional thickness just about guarantees it will rub. If I hadn't already cut the belt guard tabs off the front of the swingarm, I probably could have used them to mount a block of delrin in front of the swingarm,extending upward, so it didn't increase thickness on top of the swingarm. Hmmmmm...

But I'll need to se how thing actually fit with the chain. Plan C is probably to grit my teeth and accept the fact I need to go back to belt drive.

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #77 - 04/14/11 at 07:22:07 My newly laced and trued front wheel is making it's way here via UPS Ground. Judging by the tracking information (read from bottom to top) it looks like they're just rolling it across the country. I guess it will be here tomorrow, unless they need to give it another shove in, say, Salisbury.
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Seroj YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 14	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #78 - 04/14/11 at 07:26:32 That's hilarious!
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Re: The Project: Phase 2
Reply #79 - 04/14/11 at 08:05:06

MotoBuddha wrote on 04/10/11 at 05:09:40:

Here's what I'm thinking. This is a picture of the Ryca rearset mount. Notice the box section tubing. Thats the area that's between the swingarm and belt.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/23ac1feb.jpg

Here it is mounted on the bike. The shot from the brake side gives a clearer view of where the box section fits in the scheme of things, though you can make it out somewhat in the shot of the belt side.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/4bc477ac.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk182/motobuddha/06e7e8b0.jpg

Plan A is to just notch the bottom of the box section for chain clearance. If that doesn't look feasible after I get the rough assembly done, then Plan B is the idler sprocket. It looks like I could cut the angle off the idler's arm and then weld it to the back face of the box section so the sprocket sits low enough to hold the chain away from the rearset mount.

As for rubbing against the top of the swingarm, yeah, a delrin slider is probably the answer, though its additional thickness just about guarantees it will rub. If I hadn't already cut the belt guard tabs off the front of the swingarm, I probably could have used them to mount a block of delrin in front of the swingarm,extending upward, so it didn't increase thickness on top of the swingarm. Hmmmmm...

But I'll need to se how thing actually fit with the chain. Plan C is probably to grit my teeth and accept the fact I need to go back to belt drive.

A notch with a piece of pipe welded down in it will still be plenty strong.

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #80 - 04/14/11 at 08:38:38 Right. It's not like I stand on the pegs.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #81 - 04/15/11 at 14:37:31 The front wheel arrived. Stainless steel spokes and nickel nipples. Yum. Along with a set of double-möbius infinity bearings. Guess I'll spend a rainy weekend cutting all the whiskers off the tire.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #82 - 04/16/11 at 00:25:24 A Fine looking front wheel.. The double mobius bearing is hilarious.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #83 - 04/16/11 at 07:31:13 Because I'm kind of obsessive about such things, I had to cut all the molding whiskers off the tire. There's an hour of my life I won't get back.
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sbaugz Ex Member	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #84 - 04/16/11 at 07:47:54 MotoBuddha wrote on 04/16/11 at 07:31:13: There's an hour of my life I won't get back. Well spent
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #85 - 04/16/11 at 07:53:41 I thot the object was to wear them things off in corners..'I agree,, there should be as few of them as possible,, but removing them manually??? Naaaahhhh,, thats just wrong, man..
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #86 - 04/16/11 at 13:12:22 All mounted up. Need to get some spoke weights to balance it. It's really off. The tire is the same Kenda model Ryca supplies on the rear.
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Reply #87 - 04/16/11 at 18:32:03

Besides helping me mount the tire (or me helping him), my painter buddy did some color tests for the body work. We used one of the Savage side covers so I could see what it looks like on a curved surface. The goal is a green so dark it's almost black—sort of ultra dark British Racing Green. So we started with a black base, shot a light coat of abalone pearl, then three coats of candy green. Perfect. It looks black with green highlights on the edges.

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Abbey Normal YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 24	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #88 - 04/17/11 at 08:38:16 Have you looked into using Dyna Beads (www.innovativebalancing.com) instead of spoke weights?? I have used them on 4 sets of tires on my GS and they work great. And no unsightly stick-on or mash-on weights.
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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: The Project: Phase 2 Reply #89 - 04/17/11 at 11:08:50 DynaBeads have big fans and big haters. I remain unconvinced either way. In the meantime, lead is fine with me.
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