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i need help please. engine shut down.
03/17/11 at 12:47:30
i was going 75mph on I-95 in south of Florida, suddenly the engine stopped like when you r out of gas, but more noise. i pulled cluch & brake then pulled over the side of hiway. i check to see what s happened... maybe the starter jammed ? i disconnected positive cable from the starter then tryed to push start, but no sounds... there was lot of smoke came out from air box ( i nolonger use it caz i have corn mesh air filter, however, air box is still there & connected to breading housess) smoke was not black & no electric burn smell. my guss is that piston & head burned. i must conffes, a few months ago i made big stupid mistake when i was chainging oil that is i forgot put oil then ride bike for 2 miles without oil that could caused this problem ? since that my mistake i ride about 5,000miles. i just got towed my savage to home but i haven't got into yet. i dont know where to start. would anybody please give some suggestion & help. i apliciate your time. my savage is 2002, about 25,000miles. stage III. the shop is too expensive for me. i hate see my bike go into junk. sorry for my english is not good.
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03/17/11 at 13:15:27
start here...
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191167029
... when's the wake?
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03/17/11 at 17:08:21
25,000 miles... oh I hate to read that. I wish you had checked in here a few thousand miles ago. Please let us know the outcome.
(And your English is fine. Where are you originally from? I assume you are non-American in Florida?)
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03/17/11 at 21:20:40
If you want to spend the time, their are people here
that can help. Lots of information in the tech section.
If you can't find the information you need there, ask
here and someone will gladly point you in the right
direction.
Another option would be to find another bike and use
your old one for parts. Just a suggestion.
I wish you all the best. hugs..
kim
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03/18/11 at 14:04:19
verslagen1 wrote
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start here...
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1191167029
... when's the wake?
thank you for your rich infomation. i'm kind of discouraged by the task before me. at the same time i need to save money as much i can, i'm donating japan disaster relief through red cross & global giving. i hear they are not getting much of donation that compare to haiti & katorina.
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25,000 miles... oh I hate to read that. I wish you had checked in here a few thousand miles ago. Please let us know the outcome.
(And your English is fine. Where are you originally from? I assume you are non-American in Florida?)
thank you for your reply. yes, you r correct, im originally from your suzuki savage came from.
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650LOVER wrote
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thank you for your rich infomation. i'm kind of discouraged by the task before me. at the same time i need to save money as much i can, i'm donating japan disaster relief through red cross & global giving. i hear they are not getting much of donation that compare to haiti & katorina.
I'm sure we all feel deep sympathy for our brothers across the sea.
Once you get that cover off, you'll most likely find the culprit.
Then we can assist you further.
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kimchris1 wrote
on 03/17/11 at 21:20:40:
If you want to spend the time, their are people here
that can help. Lots of information in the tech section.
If you can't find the information you need there, ask
here and someone will gladly point you in the right
direction.
Another option would be to find another bike and use
your old one for parts. Just a suggestion.
I wish you all the best. hugs..
kim
thank you for your suggestion. i wish that i had garage where i can keep & leave everything then i can come back & continue what s left.
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verslagen1 wrote
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650LOVER wrote
on 03/18/11 at 14:04:19:
thank you for your rich infomation. i'm kind of discouraged by the task before me. at the same time i need to save money as much i can, i'm donating japan disaster relief through red cross & global giving. i hear they are not getting much of donation that compare to haiti & katorina.
I'm sure we all feel deep sympathy for our brothers across the sea.
Once you get that cover off, you'll most likely find the culprit.
Then we can assist you further.
yes, im going in 2 c what s in there. i'll report my finding later. until then thank you so much. most likely i need few days
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03/18/11 at 17:43:59
Best wishes on finding out the problem.
Nothing worse than having a bike and
not being able to ride it..
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03/18/11 at 18:25:40
verslagen1 wrote
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650LOVER wrote
on 03/18/11 at 14:04:19:
thank you for your rich infomation. i'm kind of discouraged by the task before me. at the same time i need to save money as much i can, i'm donating japan disaster relief through red cross & global giving. i hear they are not getting much of donation that compare to haiti & katorina.
I'm sure we all feel deep sympathy for our brothers across the sea.
Once you get that cover off, you'll most likely find the culprit.
Then we can assist you further.
i openned the case. these are my finding;
1) plunger is out from housing about 20mm or 1.5"
2) many metal pieces, like some shaved off aluminum that the size of 1/4" piece which is the largest, several smaller pieces & some like grain of sand.
i'll try send photos.
that gasket alone cost that much $22 + shipping @bikebandit.
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03/18/11 at 18:37:34
i know this is my learning prosess of understanding more of my bike. i think that people like me can learn only by making mistakes. i wander how many more ? today was a nice day here in south florida, perfect day for bike ride. i couldnt ride but i started open the case & try se what in there. its not good. dont know what to do next...
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Best wishes on finding out the problem.
Nothing worse than having a bike and
not being able to ride it..
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03/18/11 at 18:52:02
650LOVER wrote
on 03/18/11 at 18:25:40:
1) plunger is out from housing about 20mm or 1.5"
2) many metal pieces, like some shaved off aluminum that the size of 1/4" piece which is the largest, several smaller pieces & some like grain of sand.
Next step take the head cover off.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099227295
I think you dropped a valve.
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03/20/11 at 10:29:33
verslagen1 wrote
on 03/18/11 at 18:52:02:
650LOVER wrote
on 03/18/11 at 18:25:40:
1) plunger is out from housing about 20mm or 1.5"
2) many metal pieces, like some shaved off aluminum that the size of 1/4" piece which is the largest, several smaller pieces & some like grain of sand.
Next step take the head cover off.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1099227295
I think you dropped a valve.
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sorry my photos were too large for posting.i'll try again later.
if that valve is dropped, do you think i can still repair it ?
i'll open the head most likly tomo. i dont have a garage. i need to watch out the rain. & also, if i open them i need to put them back & close same day, caz many critters like gecco, lizzerd, spider... will make home inside. not mention that maintenance crews cut grassess then they use blower that will fly many gassess & sands up in the air into inside of bike. porgress is very slow but i'll get back with you for your teaching asap after i open the head. thank you my teacher.
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Reply #14 -
03/20/11 at 10:57:24
You need to upload your pic's to someplace like bikepics, then link them here.
If it's a dropped valve, new piston, you need to bore the cylinder, have the head reworked, at least one valve.
Easier to get a used engine and swap it out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/89-SUZUKI-LS650-SAVAGE-engine-_W0QQcmdZViewIte...
Or use the parts to rebuild yours.
If it were me, I'd take the engine out of the frame and take it indoors.
Lay down several layers of cardboard and plastic underneath.
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