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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	tdc question 04/30/11 at 08:55:23 just finished putting in new cam chain. my question is, when i turned the nut around to find tdc if i went a little too far the piston would drop. with new chain, clutch cover and stator cover back on it doesnt do it any more. i have to turn the nut on down stroke also now. is this normal or did i get something too tight?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tdc question Reply #1 - 04/30/11 at 09:00:54 idk, hear anything?
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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	Re: tdc question Reply #2 - 04/30/11 at 09:07:05 havent fired it up yet. wanted to make sure that it being stiff to turn would be normal before i go tearin something up trying to start it.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tdc question Reply #3 - 04/30/11 at 09:11:31 turn it by hand 1st, don't want to smack anything at speed.
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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	Re: tdc question Reply #4 - 04/30/11 at 09:20:27 i dont hear anything when turning by hand, just feels stiffer than it used to.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 29042 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tdc question Reply #5 - 04/30/11 at 09:42:25 Maybe just a bit dry then, give her a go.
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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	Re: tdc question Reply #6 - 04/30/11 at 10:02:14 cool deal. thanks for the help
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29684 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: tdc question Reply #7 - 04/30/11 at 10:25:56 Makes a difference if you have the sparkplug in or out... Compression gives it a push... Is that it?...
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Re: tdc question
Reply #8 - 04/30/11 at 10:31:44

Nope, the push normally comes from the valve springs coming back off full compression.

Likely he has something acting all stiff and rough like .....

If you can roll it freely by hand, try rolling it with the starter motor with no plug.

If the motor won't turn it over, then you got issues to fix.

If the motor will turn it over, give it a few gos (letting the starter cool off between goes of course) and see if it doesn't loosen up some.

Then do it again with the plug in place to make sure it will turn over against full compression.

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Reply #9 - 04/30/11 at 10:45:09

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 04/30/11 at 10:31:44:

Nope, the push normally comes from the valve springs coming back off full compression.

Likely he has something acting all stiff and rough like .....

If you can roll it freely by hand, try rolling it with the starter motor with no plug.

If the motor won't turn it over, then you got issues to fix.

If the motor will turn it over, give it a few gos (letting the starter cool off between goes of course) and see if it doesn't loosen up some.

Then do it again with the plug in place to make sure it will turn over against full compression.

Some solid advice..

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29684 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: tdc question Reply #10 - 04/30/11 at 10:46:51 Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 04/30/11 at 10:31:44: Nope, the push normally comes from the valve springs coming back off full compression. Dang you're smart!... I never thought of that... Throw my theory out the window... ...
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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	Re: tdc question Reply #11 - 04/30/11 at 10:55:24 will try what oldfeller suggested. thanks for all the input guys.
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ohio thumper Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 154	Re: tdc question Reply #12 - 04/30/11 at 10:57:13 spark plug was out when i was turning by hand. still have a few things to put back together and will be able to try. will post my results
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: tdc question Reply #13 - 04/30/11 at 13:36:55 ohio thumper wrote on 04/30/11 at 10:57:13: spark plug was out when i was turning by hand. still have a few things to put back together and will be able to try. will post my results Hopefully, the "results" will fit in one frame of the camera..
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Reply #14 - 05/07/11 at 05:46:06

well i gave it a few goes with starter after cranking by hand a few times. it finally started with a little persuasion with starting fluid in the beginning, no slapping or clanking parts.
think i might need a new battery though. this one just doesnt seem to have enough gusto to crank on it, even after charge. gives me a reason to get a sealed battery anyway.
would a funky battery cause the decomp to work intermittantly, or is this a whole new problem that i have to deal with?

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