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Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build
Reply #135 - 06/01/11 at 15:46:55

splash07 wrote on 06/01/11 at 12:02:49:

So in order to get this hand lever to work right one would need to deactivate the electrical switch that requires the clutch to be pulled in then always start the bike in neutral?

not sure. ill let you know once i get the bike back up and running...

but im assuming the sequence will be: key in on position; engage hand lever; release hand lever; clutch in; engage starter button; varrroooooom!

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splash07 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 911 Charleston, SC Gender:	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #136 - 06/02/11 at 06:37:37 I always understood the decomp as needing to be engaged at the same time as the starter. which is why RYCA uses a foot lever for it allowing your hands to operate the clutch and starter at the same time.
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Reply #137 - 06/02/11 at 12:17:04

splash07 wrote on 06/02/11 at 06:37:37:

I always understood the decomp as needing to be engaged at the same time as the starter. which is why RYCA uses a foot lever for it allowing your hands to operate the clutch and starter at the same time.

if my memory serves me right, when i saw the ryca bike start up the sequence ryan used was: foot pedal down, foot pedal released, clutch in and starter button engaged; varroooooom!

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Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build
Reply #138 - 06/05/11 at 16:56:51

have my cake and eat it too:
today a plan was realized to modify the rear set bracket in order to keep the chain mod. the findings echo motobuddha's http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304184759/4#4.

the springs offered with the ryca kit are 13" in length at full extension and 11" in length when fully compressed.

at full extension there is about 1/16" space between top of swing arm and the chain when tightened. to create some more room i riffed motobuddha and ended up grinding down the swingarm a bit:

when the springs are fully compressed the rear set bracket is in the pathway of the chain. as a remedy i will also be cutting the rear set bracket similar to motobuddha http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1304184759/7#7

if clearance issues still persist after everything is said and done i will probably change the gear ratio to 18:45 but for now will keep the 17:43.

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MotoBuddha Serious Thumper Offline Let's roll! Posts: 1416 Charlotte, NC	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #139 - 06/05/11 at 17:27:53 Like they say, imitation = flattery.
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Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build
Reply #140 - 06/05/11 at 22:16:26

On the Bobber build, what rear blinkers did you use and how did you mount them to the fender? I was looking at my stock ones tonight and they don't look mountable on the fender.

Did you ever mount a tail light? I didn't see it in any of the photos, however there was one that looked like it may have been mounted under the rear fender?

When you cut the back fender, what did you use? All I have is a jigsaw and a dremel tool and I'm wondering if that's sufficient or not. Also, did you fabricate your own license plate holder?

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Reply #141 - 06/06/11 at 13:17:08

thirty six wrote on 06/05/11 at 22:16:26:

On the Bobber build, what rear blinkers did you use and how did you mount them to the fender? I was looking at my stock ones tonight and they don't look mountable on the fender.

Did you ever mount a tail light? I didn't see it in any of the photos, however there was one that looked like it may have been mounted under the rear fender?

When you cut the back fender, what did you use? All I have is a jigsaw and a dremel tool and I'm wondering if that's sufficient or not. Also, did you fabricate your own license plate holder?

rear indicators: i ended up finding some minimal led indicators that i used for the front and took the stock front indicators and moved them to the rear. i knew that i was going to convert the bike to the ryca cs-1 so i didnt spend much time on the mount job. i used a 2 part epoxy and just glued them to the fender, which is mickey mouse but it did the job until it was time to strip the bike down.

rear brake light: i used the light bulb housing from the original rear brake harness and mounted it underneath the fender using the same bolts as the rectifier. i picked up a red light bulb from pep boys to compensate for not using the brake lens.

rear fender: i used tape to make make a line of the shape i wanted to cut. the tape gave me the hard edge but also gave me some flexibility and in the flow of the line i wanted. i used a grinder with a cut off wheel to make the cuts and then a dremel to de-burr the edge.

license plate: i did fabricate my own plate holder. i modeled it off the one dime city motorcycles offers. however theirs doesnt clear the rear belt drive on the savage so i made mine about an inch longer. once i converted to the chain drive the dime city plate fit perfectly. if you intend to keep the belt you will need to run one similar to mine....

...actually if youre interested i will sell you mine. im no longer using it but was planning on keeping for my next build, though thats not going to be for a while. i just got the plate holder powder coated in gloss black and it looks amazing. pm if youre interested.

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Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build
Reply #142 - 06/06/11 at 20:04:53

Here's a decomp mystery that you boys might be able to use...

Decomp solenoid disconnected.
stick a big flat blade screw driver under the decomp lever, so the wide side is under the longest part.
now push the starter button.
the starter will rev and the screw driver will fall after the 1st rev.

So I'm thinking Shocked

turn the decomp lever upside down so the slotted part points down and put a over center lever in there that'll kick off on the 1st rev. Simplicity at it's finest. Cool

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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #143 - 06/06/11 at 20:31:04 verslagen1 wrote on 06/06/11 at 20:04:53: "So I'm thinking turn the decomp lever upside down so the slotted part points down and put a over center lever in there that'll kick off on the 1st rev. Simplicity at it's finest. " Elegant
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RpNSht

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Reply #144 - 06/06/11 at 20:59:44

verslagen1 wrote on 06/06/11 at 20:04:53:

Here's a decomp mystery that you boys might be able to use...

Decomp solenoid disconnected.
stick a big flat blade screw driver under the decomp lever, so the wide side is under the longest part.
now push the starter button.
the starter will rev and the screw driver will fall after the 1st rev.

So I'm thinking Shocked

turn the decomp lever upside down so the slotted part points down and put a over center lever in there that'll kick off on the 1st rev. Simplicity at it's finest. Cool

can you post pics?
does engine cover get in the way of this?

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RpNSht Ex Member	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #145 - 06/06/11 at 21:05:22 ryans bike on youtube! so tight http://www.youtube.com/rycamotors#p/u/1/ByNxIZh9Kew
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RpNSht Ex Member	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #146 - 06/09/11 at 00:07:30 when in rome: to gain clearance for the chain, the rear set bracket needed to be modified with a channel. an arch was picked for the type of channel to be used. the reasons summed up here (minus the beetle):
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SoE Full Member Offline Rollin' the dice on fire... Posts: 199 East TN Gender:	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #147 - 06/10/11 at 07:36:38 RpNSht, how did you stencil the letters on your tire? That looks like an actual font & I was wondering how you did it so clean. -d
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Reply #148 - 06/10/11 at 09:56:07

SoE wrote on 06/10/11 at 07:36:38:

RpNSht, how did you stencil the letters on your tire? That looks like an actual font & I was wondering how you did it so clean.
-d

i laid the stencil out using adobe illustrator. i chose the same font firestone tires uses and made sure that the text followed the radius of the tire. then i had the file cut out in vinyl, applied the vinyl to the tire and sprayed a coat of spray paint. pretty simple especially if you have access to a vinyl cutter.

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SoE Full Member Offline Rollin' the dice on fire... Posts: 199 East TN Gender:	Re: From Lien to Bobber to Cafe: RYCA Build Reply #149 - 06/10/11 at 10:33:55 Cool. Used to have access to a vinyl cutter, not any more. I used to do some screen printing & graphics work on the side. I've got Illustrator. What setting did you use to get the angle right on the curve (if you still know/ have the file)?
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