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Reply #105 - 12/15/11 at 08:36:31
 
You can't go by Verlagens data,He removes a lot of my post he don't agreed with.
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Reply #106 - 12/15/11 at 08:54:22
 
bill67 wrote on 12/15/11 at 08:36:31:
You can't go by Verlagens data,He removes a lot of my post he don't agreed with.


So you're saying he made up that whole data sheet just to single handedly destroy the Klotz company?  Lips Sealed
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Reply #107 - 12/15/11 at 09:07:20
 
No.He said Rot oil was better before he did his so called test,Do you think he was going to say he was wrong.Theres been people on here that had S40 go 40,000  50,000 miles that didn't use Rot oil,And one used straight 50w oil,Which he and Old fellow say is no good.
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Re: suzuki oil vs klotz
Reply #108 - 12/15/11 at 09:08:26
 
To paraphase an old joke...

How do you tell when YugoBill is BS'n you?








His fingers are moving.
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Reply #109 - 12/15/11 at 09:16:32
 
Built2Last wrote on 12/15/11 at 08:54:22:
bill67 wrote on 12/15/11 at 08:36:31:
You can't go by Verlagens data,He removes a lot of my post he don't agreed with.


So you're saying he made up that whole data sheet just to single handedly destroy the Klotz company?  Lips Sealed

Now when you use the Yugo Rot diesel oil,Run it one day and then change it to get rid of all the dirt that was in the past oil you used.
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Reply #110 - 12/15/11 at 10:06:15
 
Actually I think I'm gonna try the T6 first...

OF do you have any videos of yer bike running?
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Reply #111 - 12/15/11 at 12:38:18
 
 
Got to ask the dragon guys, I don't have any film of myself running (I ain't that coordinated nor are my arms that long).

Does anybody have any film of me running at speed?

Dragon Killboy pics mebbe -- go to the Dragon thread and take a look.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1292661121/465
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Reply #112 - 12/15/11 at 13:24:43
 
Your arms aren't long enough to walk around your sickle holding a camera while it's idling? I guess you wouldn't be able to crank the throttle a few times either then..  Sad
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Reply #113 - 12/15/11 at 13:44:47
 
Most often heard when OF goes by...

"what the hell was that? "
"did you get a picture? "
"naw... took me by surprise"
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Reply #114 - 12/15/11 at 13:49:44
 


I couldn't find anything on the Dragon thread..


Look carefully at the post, see the link in red


http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1292661121/465


Click on the link and it will take you to Cafe/sticky section/Dragon around post # 465 starts the last trip -- it has lots of still shots of my bike and the rest of the folks on that trip's bikes.

Bill is making his standard "post lost laments" right now -- he's trying to find something to take the sting off it or make it look a wee bit better.   He does this after every sentencing, generally speaking.   He will generally wind up accusing somebody of lying about something fairly soon then it will get nasty.


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Reply #115 - 12/15/11 at 14:12:03
 
Last 66 be sure to get that additive that Old Fellow uses to add to the oil.
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Reply #116 - 12/15/11 at 18:43:11
 


Bill, I doubt Built2last66 has a new stage 2 cam that requires a break in ZDDP booster, so he likely doesn't need the additive.

Truth is, he doesn't need the full synthetic Rot Syn for a stock engine, but if he wants to pay a few cents less than he was paying for Suzuki oil and get him a synthetic with a good data history behind it, then go for it.

I think he's jest funnin' you a little bit jest to watch you squirm and grumble about it some ...

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Reply #117 - 12/16/11 at 10:44:39
 
Gyrobob wrote on 12/15/11 at 07:04:59:
OF, I do get a kick out of your Yugo/bill67 linkage.

Yes, the Yugo was a miserable failure here.  The car, though, did have some challenges just to its very existence that no other cars had to overcome.

It started off as a Fiat 127, a reasonable and inexpensive little car for the masses, made in Italy (hence the quality problems), but if you got one that had everything screwed together properly, it worked fine and was reliable.  Fiats are just Fiats.  Get a good one and they are great.
 -- The 127 worked as well and held together as well as US-made competitors (Vega, Chevette, Escort, Fiesta, Pinto etc.) in the 80's.  

When Fiat stopped making the 127, the tools to make it ended up in Yugoslavia.  With Malcom Bricklin's involvement (whole teams of engineers were sent there just to work quality issues, and for the US market, they created a special production line of elite assemblers that got lots more pay) the car was imported in the late 80s thru the early 90s.  

The car was doomed from the start.
 -- A good Italian design, but made by socialists with the communist manufacturing attitude (just fill the quota for today and go home, comrade)
 -- The design was somewhat outdated when the Italians made it, and became more and more obsolete in the 90s.
 -- The car was made by Zastava, a large and old company in Yugoslavia.  
    --- The United Nations placed sanctions on Yugoslavia in the 90s the restricted manufacturing/export, leaving US dealers with dwindling inventory.
    --- This got a lot worse when NATO bombed the factory by mistake, thinking it was a gun factory.
 -- With no way to produce more than a few thousand cars annually, the company folded in the early 90s

If they would have been given an even break, they might have survived.  Who knows?  They did have a few advantages -- they cost a lot less than their competition because labor was cheap, and the gov't subsidized them.  



I beg to difffer. Check items marked in red. We developed our own tools. Engine was ours. Italians gave us nothing, nor we asked for it. That explains even WORSE quality than Italian. Yugo started for Yugoslav market, not US. Only later we tried to export. Zastava small arms factory and Zastava Yugo factory are in the same compound. Allways been. Bombing was not a mistake.  Wink Everything else is right and proper!
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Reply #118 - 12/16/11 at 11:04:09
 
I guess my sources were wrong.
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Reply #119 - 12/16/11 at 12:02:40
 
Gyrobob wrote on 12/16/11 at 11:04:09:
I guess my sources were wrong.

Your sources on wheat are wrong too.
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