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Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special
Reply #45 - 05/31/14 at 18:19:21

Made some progress on the bike. Here is how is sits at the moment.

I'm going to modify the tail to give it more angle but here are some pics of where it is right now.

I'm going to tackle the rearset bracket and bodywork soon. Right now I'm sorting through the monoshock set up. This shock is way too soft so I'm looking at options and once that is wrapped up I will be on the home stretch.

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copterdoc Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 103 South of North. Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #46 - 05/31/14 at 19:30:40 Where did you get the redwings? I love. them, I need a set!
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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #47 - 06/01/14 at 13:14:52 Coning along really cool Scuba, looking forward to more progress reports!
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strang Senior Member Offline Posts: 387 london Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #48 - 06/02/14 at 03:33:37 very creative scuba, love it. mags look bollocks cool on a savage. I say keep the half finished tank - à la Wrenchmonkees. How'd you do your pipe bends? old school sand method?
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scubachef Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 140	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #49 - 06/02/14 at 07:56:54 I did use the sand method as well as a modified harbor frieght pipe bender. I can't afford a tubing bender so I got the pipe bender at HF for 70.00 and did some work to modify it. Didn't take too long and works alright. Not the best for thinner tubing but it does ok.
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Reply #50 - 08/13/15 at 19:28:59

Hello all, my project and I are back from a long hiatus and almost ready to hit the road....but it seems like I have a wiring issue that might put the brakes on that. I numbered all the wires during teardown, so I'm fairly confident all connections are made as they were when I disconnected everything, but it doesn't start. I did lengthen some wires and did so with soldered connections and heat shrink...I believe all work was done correctly with no mickey mouse shortcuts When I hit the starter it sounds and feels like the battery is dead (starter barely makes a sound) but the battery was fully charged and checked with a multi-meter. The battery immediately got hot and began to hiss. I'm concerned the battery just got ruined, but more concerned that there is something in the wiring that caused the issue. So for clairity:

-labeled wires at teardown, matched numbers to re-connect
-charged the battery, checked it with a multimeter and it read 12.7
-hooked up battery, clutch in, starter button hit and no start but clicking from decomp is heard
-battery heats up badly and immediately loses charge, makes hissing sound. battery recharged, 12.7, same issue again.

Wiring and electrical is my kryptonite, does this issue sound familiar to anyone and/or can anyone give me some guidance on how I can check the various parts of the electrical system to verify something isn't wrong in the wiring that would cause this to happen and fry the battery?

Thank you in advance for any help that can be offered...and its good to be back!

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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10875 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #51 - 08/14/15 at 08:09:29 Electrical is my weak point too, but with the immediate response you get with a hot battery it sounds like you have some wires reversed somewhere. You labeled them, but could have made the error when labeling. ? ?
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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2655 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #52 - 08/14/15 at 09:00:21 Sounds like its wired into a dead short, probably at the starter solenoid. Could the battery be connected in the wrong polarity (i.e. backwards)?
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Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special
Reply #53 - 08/14/15 at 09:08:06

It sounds like you've got a dead short from the battery to the chassis when you try to engage starter. If there are no melted wires anywhere and the fuses didn't blow I'd suggest starting the search at the starter and the starter relay and the associated wiring.

Pull the starter out, clamp it in a vice and run it with jumper cables. If the starter is ok , then make sure that the eyelet on the wire that runs from the starter relay to the starter is ONLY touching the threaded post on the starter - that it isn't somehow touching the starter housing itself.

I don't know how likely it is for the relay to short to ground through its housing when it closes but I think it's possible. If that happens the relay should get pretty hot as soon as you hit the start switch.

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Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special
Reply #54 - 08/14/15 at 22:39:36

Im positive the battery is hooked up correctly and there are no blown fuses or melted wires. I will test the starter and see where that leads. Thanks for the replies! Here are some updates pics too.

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Needed to modify a set of 7/8 mirrors so I made some recessed and threaded adapters that mount inside the bars with set screws

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #55 - 08/14/15 at 22:54:21 what kinda multimeter you using?
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chzeckmate Serious Thumper Offline Be the person your dog thinks you are Posts: 514 Houston, Texas Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #56 - 08/15/15 at 00:26:43 That's bitchin'...I mean it, you've really got something going there!
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strang Senior Member Offline Posts: 387 london Gender:	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #57 - 08/15/15 at 03:17:58 enjoyed the update Scuba - bike looks crappity smacking outstanding.
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Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special
Reply #58 - 08/15/15 at 15:02:33

You've done some outstanding work there Scuba! That color of grey/silver is one of my favorites and looks perfect on that bike. Sheet metal fabrication looks great as well!

I've never been a fan of a "blacked out" engine. It just doesnt appeal to my eye the way the polished aluminium does, but other than that....bike looks sierra hotel dude.

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scubachef Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 140	Re: Cafe Conversion "the late night special Reply #59 - 08/15/15 at 20:47:09 Thanks everyone, can't wait to be riding it again after a long wait. Justin O Guy, the multimeter is an Equus brand.
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