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gsjet YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3 Colorado Gender:	Re: RYCA Decomp controller, s-stand relay/diode/sw Reply #15 - 02/02/12 at 07:45:39 I think the sidestand switch should only affect the engine running when in gear. If the sidestand is down and bike is put in gear, the engine dies. It should not affect the started working if it is down or up, i.e jumpered or not.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: RYCA Decomp controller, s-stand relay/diode/sw Reply #16 - 02/02/12 at 07:47:55 Tiny click is probably the side stand relay. Is the bike in neutral? Then the side stand position won't have any affect.
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Reply #17 - 02/02/12 at 11:49:07

verslagen1 wrote on 02/02/12 at 07:47:55:

Tiny click is probably the side stand relay.

Is the bike in neutral? Then the side stand position won't have any affect.

gsjet wrote on 02/02/12 at 07:45:39:

I think the sidestand switch should only affect the engine running when in gear. If the sidestand is down and bike is put in gear, the engine dies.
It should not affect the started working if it is down or up, i.e jumpered or not.

Ah! I get it. I shoulda known. The sidestand switch has no effect on the starter operation, just on the ignition. A stock bike will have the starter operate, but the bike won't start or run with the sidestand down and the transmission in gear.

The sidestand switch has been removed as per the RYCA conversion.

I'm going to remove the sidestand switch plug, and just connect those two wires together.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: RYCA Decomp controller, s-stand relay/diode/sw Reply #18 - 02/02/12 at 12:24:07 You could eliminate the relay as well, same method as decomp controller. Hey a # is a #
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Reply #19 - 02/10/12 at 08:38:34

Hey guys I'm a new member trying to learn so excuse my ignorance, but isn't the decomp cylinoid necessary to start-up? and doesn't the decomp controller time delay the starter motor until after decomression? I ask with sincerity since I just went wild doing an entirely new harness from scratch--about 35 hrs worth of wiring.I'd hate to think I could have eliminated that too. By the way the side stand switch, relay and duel diode do eliminate alot. I know its not preferred here but my only start up saftey is my clutch. I use the neutral sw to an indicator light; however it doesn't break my start up path if its in gear or the stand is down.

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Reply #20 - 02/10/12 at 12:53:58

palehorseman wrote on 02/10/12 at 08:38:34:

Hey guys I'm a new member trying to learn so excuse my ignorance, but isn't the decomp cylinoid necessary to start-up? and doesn't the decomp controller time delay the starter motor until after decomression? I ask with sincerity since I just went wild doing an entirely new harness from scratch--about 35 hrs worth of wiring.I'd hate to think I could have eliminated that too. By the way the side stand switch, relay and duel diode do eliminate alot. I know its not preferred here but my only start up saftey is my clutch. I use the neutral sw to an indicator light; however it doesn't break my start up path if its in gear or the stand is down.

If you manually lift the exhaust valve each time before you hit the starter button, you can remove all the decompression controller and solenoid stuff.

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Reply #22 - 02/10/12 at 15:57:33

Ahh...i see. That crossed my mind but i didnt see it stated. I like this forum. So what are you doing then? Cable and lever; or can you just pull that hard enough to open it? I tried to post some interesting pics of every control still in use enclosed in a small artillery box with the battery but cant figure it out. Pm me and ill Emil em if your interested.

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Reply #23 - 02/11/12 at 05:48:45

Savage_Rob wrote on 02/10/12 at 13:50:38:

Kinda like they used to do for kick-starting singles back when. If you didn't, it'd shove your knee into your armpit.

Zackly. With bike, though, using an electric starter, if it kicks back while trying to start it, you might end up with a lot of loose and tiny pieces inside.

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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: RYCA Decomp controller, s-stand relay/diode/sw Reply #24 - 04/17/12 at 20:25:49 It all works now. Got everything jumped properly, and the relays/diodes removed.
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Reply #25 - 09/26/22 at 12:16:20

Gyrobob wrote on 04/17/12 at 20:25:49:

It all works now. Got everything jumped properly, and the relays/diodes removed.

Sorry to revive a super old thread, but I want to make sure I understand correctly:

I can jumper the yellow w/ green wire to the yellow w/ black wire on the decomp controller connector, and it will eliminate the decompression controller box, eliminate the kickstand safety, but keep the neutral safety in tact?

I have 5 wires on my rectifier, 6 on my decomp controller, and it's a 2011 if that matters.

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Re: RYCA Decomp controller, s-stand relay/diode/sw
Reply #26 - 09/26/22 at 14:35:23

Yazman wrote on 09/26/22 at 12:16:20:

Gyrobob wrote on 04/17/12 at 20:25:49:

It all works now. Got everything jumped properly, and the relays/diodes removed.

Sorry to revive a super old thread, but I want to make sure I understand correctly:

I can jumper the yellow w/ green wire to the yellow w/ black wire on the decomp controller connector, and it will eliminate the decompression controller box, eliminate the kickstand safety, but keep the neutral safety in tact?

I have 5 wires on my rectifier, 6 on my decomp controller, and it's a 2011 if that matters.

Yes, but that doesn't have anything to do with the sidestand safety, just the decomp.

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Reply #27 - 09/26/22 at 15:24:12

So if I do the mod described above with the decomp connector and I jumper the kickstand safety wires (connect them so that the circuit is permanently closed), I will retain all the other safety features (e.g., NSS)? Doesn't a wire from the decomp controller go to the safety interlock? Or does current go from the safety interlock TO the decomp controller?

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Reply #28 - 09/26/22 at 17:42:09

Yazman wrote on 09/26/22 at 15:24:12:

So if I do the mod described above with the decomp connector and I jumper the kickstand safety wires (connect them so that the circuit is permanently closed), I will retain all the other safety features (e.g., NSS)?

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Doesn't a wire from the decomp controller go to the safety interlock? Or does current go from the safety interlock TO the decomp controller?

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