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Reply #45 - 06/04/12 at 11:55:26
 
what size did you drill those out to? and is there a specific length away you should drill em?
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Reply #46 - 06/04/12 at 11:57:01
 
disregard my question didnt realize the next page had the info, sorry Shocked
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Reply #47 - 06/04/12 at 12:09:39
 
Wake51 wrote on 05/04/12 at 01:59:31:
Replace with the HD muffler which you can find loads of info on here for.

Honestly it may be too loud for some. I enjoy it, and my bike has a unique sound on this 30,000 student university campus. Just set off 2 car alarms today when my roommate came up while I was putting on my helmet and romped the throttle. Whoops!!

But seriously... I get complaints from riders in formation behind me. I'm shocked by how loud the Savage is under load with an after market muffler. It doesn't make a scene at idle but under load it competes with my 1200 Harley and I have to say wins... o.0


I bet you bought a HD muffler (Dyna) that somebody drilled or knocked out the baffle....and turned this into a straight through muffler.  The Dyna muffler is not very loud at all when it is not modified.
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Reply #48 - 06/04/12 at 12:31:24
 
Yeah, I can't see a stock Dyna muffler setting off anyone's car alarms at all... that sounds suspicious.
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Reply #49 - 06/27/12 at 12:25:07
 
Is the baffle plate removable or does all the drilling take place while its mounted on the bike?
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Reply #50 - 06/27/12 at 12:52:28
 
RanDaMan wrote on 06/27/12 at 12:25:07:
Is the baffle plate removable or does all the drilling take place while its mounted on the bike?

My HD muffler has a 1.5" freeze plug near the inlet. I used a piece of pipe to drive it out. Then drilled a hole and drove it back in. All while off the bike. If still mounted, you will need a really long drill bit.
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Reply #51 - 06/27/12 at 13:00:40
 
RanDaMan wrote on 06/27/12 at 12:25:07:
Is the baffle plate removable or does all the drilling take place while its mounted on the bike?

If you were referring to the stock muffler, yes you drill the rear while it is mounted on the bike.
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Reply #52 - 06/27/12 at 13:48:28
 
Greg wrote on 06/27/12 at 13:00:40:
RanDaMan wrote on 06/27/12 at 12:25:07:
Is the baffle plate removable or does all the drilling take place while its mounted on the bike?

If you were referring to the stock muffler, yes you drill the rear while it is mounted on the bike.


I'll assume you're asking because you are considering this mod.  Wink

I did this mod to the stock muffler (4 x 1/2" holes in the rear baffle plate)..it sounded much better than stock (fairly deep tone), but still wasn't loud enough for my tastes  Grin, and it still had that VW Beetle-ish "ping" to the exhaust note.   I replaced it with a slightly used Jardine from one of our forum members, and I def like the Jardine better...not as deep of a note in the audio frequency spectrum, but it has a quite loud and percussive bark under hard throttle.

You might have to adjust the carb fuel/air mix after any exhaust mod.  Check the thread on setting this in the tech section (it's a simple screw that's under a brass plug that you might have to remove and throw away if the fuel mixture has never been adjusted before). Check where it's set now and see how far out (richer...counterclockwise turns) you can go before it's too loose to stay put.  This will give you an idea of whether you've got enough adjustment available to do some muffler mods without needing to worry about re-jetting or anything.

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Reply #53 - 06/27/12 at 13:52:14
 
renegade1 wrote on 06/04/12 at 11:55:26:
what size did you drill those out to? and is there a specific length away you should drill em?


I did 4 x 1/2" holes.  There are four rivets in the rear baffle plate in the muffler (no idea why, they don't seem to hold anything...LOL)...I just drilled those 4 rivets out, then enlarged the holes to 1/2" each.  Drill through that rear baffle plate (which is something like 3/16" thick or so) and you're good....assuming we're talking about mod'ing the stock muffler here.  Wink

That said, I got tired of that VW Beetle-ish "ping/whistle" and tried a Jardine exhaust.  Here's how I'd compare those three:

1) Stock muffler:  Just too quiet IMO...it sounded like I was riding a sewing machine.  Grin

2) Stock muffer drilled: A bit louder, deeper tone (in physics terms, it's like tuning a subwoofer!), but still not what I'd call "loud", plus I still heard that VW Beetle-ish "ping" characteristic to it (which I understand comes from the internal baffles in the stock muffler).

3) Jardine:  Much louder than even the mod'ed stock muffler (just short of obnoxiously loud), not as deep as the mod'ed stock muffler, but has a mid-rangey, percussive "bark" to it, and is quite echo-ey loud under hard throttle.  This is what I have on mine now, and I quite like it.

Thanks my opinion.  Cool

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Reply #54 - 06/27/12 at 14:03:09
 
Yes i was indeed reffering to the stock muffler. This mod seems easy enough and all im looking to do is make it a bit louder so people can hear me coming with out getting into re-jetting (just yet)... It's either that or carry around an airhorn which could have other more entertaining purposes haha Grin

The metal shavings wont have any negative effects being inside the muffler? Undecided
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Reply #55 - 06/27/12 at 14:28:12
 
Yes, drilling the stock muffler is an easy mod.   Wink  As far as if it makes it loud enough that people hear you coming, I didn't think so myself...but that's me, YMMV!  Try it and see, nothing to lose by doing this mod...just check that you have about 3 turns counterclockwise (right guys?) on the fuel mix screw first. (Turn it all the way clockwise and count the turns so you'll know where you originally were, then check you can do 3 counterclockwise turns before it's too loose and might fall out.  Then follow the thread in the tech section about adjusting it after you've drilled the exhaust...essentially get it to where you have the highest revs at idle and it should be good, but read that thread so you know all the details. Search for "brass plug" and you'll find it. )

I got most of the metal shavings out with one of those "small magnet on a telescoping rod" thingamabob's, but I don't know of any ill effects if some metal shavings end up left in the muffler.

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Reply #56 - 06/27/12 at 14:32:28
 
I posted some sound clips of 4x5/16 and 8x5/16 here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1151331237/2#2
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Reply #57 - 06/27/12 at 21:54:36
 
Here's a clip I posted a while back...this is the stock muffler with the 4 x 1/2" hole mod:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFeyIYBig80

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Reply #58 - 06/27/12 at 22:19:10
 
My buddy's C50 has some Vance & Hines straight shots and this has by far the best sound I ever heard on a bike. I wish I could adapt one of those on my bike. The sound is incredible, not too loud in city traffic with a deep rumble, and then when cracking it open it is simply intoxicating.
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Reply #59 - 06/28/12 at 05:36:51
 
Greg wrote on 06/27/12 at 14:32:28:
I posted some sound clips of 4x5/16 and 8x5/16 here: http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1151331237/2#2



After listening to most of the sound clips I liked the sound of  greg's "Thrush glasspack p/n 24210" the most! I like the depth of the tone rather then higher pitch rev. This muffler would require re-jetting I assume? Undecided
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