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Reply #15 - 07/12/12 at 20:43:38
 
ZAR wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:36:30:
Maybe I should keep my nose out of this but......Most everything JOG has presented is right on the money. But,like LostArtist I can see where there is little hope of changing the way things are....yet.

America was doomed to live like a gold-rush ghost town from the start. That is to say she rose up quickly....flared a brilliant light and will die just as quickly. Then She will be reborn much like the post apocolypse movies Mel Gibson was famous for. It's been proven throughout the ages that a Democracy can only survive for so long. When the number of people supporting the masses drops lower than the number of people being supported the time of anarchy is at hand.

Do I believe our government is involved in a mass conspiricy...hell yes I do. Do I believe I can change it? Hell no! but I can carry on the tradition of my forefathers in being learned and prepared to protect our precious rights and priviledges for the next version of these United States,no matter form She may take!

Maybe that makes me crazier than you thought JOG is...oh well...I'll slip back to my cave down by the secluded creek........



there is NO changing things, this is life, the rich get their way, deal with it. This is how it is all over the world, all throughout time.  If you want to drop out of society and start your own commune go for it!
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #16 - 07/12/12 at 20:43:41
 
Sam7.62 wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:40:31:
We are circling the drain. Its over, no turning back we lost is what it is. With that being said.  As long as you still have free porn, football,beer and walmart no one will care because those things make us free. I think there is even a post where someone said that.  


Good points Sam! I've said for years that as long as the masses have all these things available and/or provided to them they care not what happens around them!
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #17 - 07/12/12 at 20:51:07
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:43:11:
LostArtist wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:39:06:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/12/12 at 19:48:46:
The Fed exists thru LAW. It can be killed. Please, read these words carefully,, This is our THIRD central bank,, what does that mean to you?

It means a central bank has been KILLED Twice,, if the people had been more educated, maybe the 3rd one wouldnt have come to be, BUT, it passed, just before Christmas, with only 3 to vote for it,
No one wi9ll ever stop evil in the hearts of men, thats why we have the Big C, the Fed, regardless of what any Black Robed Bunch has said, Is Specifically UnConstitutional,. It needs killed.Its the TOOL by which the Greedy steal the fruits of our labor & ruin our future.


it's our 3RD?? really?  what does that tell you?!  that even after two failed attempts they are still trying this stuff and still succeeding at having them!  if the Fed goes down, There will be a 4TH central bank.  




Geeezus, seriously? NOT if YOU & the majority of America will say NO,, Why are you so willing to lay down & be walked on by criminals & ready to FIGHT someone trying to HELP you?>? Youre whats wrong with America,, Youre ready to fight with all your might against someone trying to get you to fight the people ruining America,,


like the majority vote even matters, that's where you fail to see the reality, the majority of americans were against the bail outs of the banks and auto companies, the majority of americans were against obamacare, etc, etc, etc. . . .  

if the Fed goes away, in a few years time, it'll just come back, some crisis or something or another will come up and they will use that as an excuse to re-instate it.  
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Reply #18 - 07/12/12 at 20:53:23
 
ZAR wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:43:41:
Sam7.62 wrote on 07/12/12 at 20:40:31:
We are circling the drain. Its over, no turning back we lost is what it is. With that being said.  As long as you still have free porn, football,beer and walmart no one will care because those things make us free. I think there is even a post where someone said that.  


Good points Sam! I've said for years that as long as the masses have all these things available and/or provided to them they care not what happens around them!


and what exactly is happening to them??  they get to live a nice life and die a nice death without having to fight a revolutionary war. darn, that life just sucks
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Reply #19 - 07/12/12 at 20:54:17
 
In my defense when I was saying let the gov't decide I was referencing the President's authority to assassinate US citizens without fair trial or even hearing what crimes they've been charged with.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/214295-holder-clear-authority-to-k...
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/oct2011/alwa-o01.shtml

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda....

But now you've got me on the list also!


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Reply #20 - 07/12/12 at 21:01:26
 
But dont resist, dont try to get others seeing whats happening, just accept it, its fate,,

But, what happened after Medieval times? Back when it was serfs & lords? What about OUR Constitution & Bill of Rights? Am I supposed to just sit back & wait to be taken out? OUR economy is in the tank, OUr people are suffering, & the answer I get is

Ohh well,, greedy people have been around forever,

DUDE, these people are destroying the future for our Kids, & your answer is,, Ohhh,, dont worry,, just have fun,,do what you enjoy, dont sweat it,,

OUt Fore Fathers Sweated it & thats WHY we had the freedom we HAD. & unless people are simply oblivious to reality, they can SEE the change in America since we were kids..

Change doesnt always have to be painful for the People,, we CAN make changes that go BACK toward when WE had it better,,
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #21 - 07/13/12 at 07:17:50
 
JOG, you're going to be hard pressed to change anyone's beliefs. The country has been on a down hill slide for decades and the vast majority does not and will not give a $hit one way or the other. Surely you've noticed that apathy is our true national past time? Closely followed by indifference, sloth, greed...

I've known many older folks over the years who grew up in the Reich, watched the post-war Communist take over and managed to come here only to see the same thing being repeated. It's going to take a generation or two before people look around and say "what the f**k happened to us"...

People here are coddled, lulled into a false sense of personal security/liberty. You're just going to have to let the other shoe drop before something is done about it.
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Reply #22 - 07/13/12 at 07:46:32
 
Im hoping others will stop buying into the lies weve been taught. Im hoping theyll listen to these interviews. The first step was to offer history students help with their schooling, IF they would go along with Teaching History the way they were told. The infection spread. Where we are headed is pure tyranny. TSA is growing, The Goobs have bought millions of 40 cal Hollowpoint, not even used in battle., & no one uses hollowpoints for target practice, The gooba have bought portable, bulletproof guard shacks to install on highways,There are checkpoints already used , miles from the border, & Americans are being stopped & forced to Present their Papers,,




“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn



And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

But now, we Have information, & there are people out there, trying to get others to look at it, Its Not a series of mistakes, there is an agenda & we have been told what it is, by the people who are carrying it out,
They Have to tell us what they plan to do to us. When they let it out, clue here, clue there, & the masses dont add 2 + 2 & see whats happening, when its RIGHT there in front of them, then the Elite look at that as proof the Dumb Masses are no smarter than animals & dont deserve to be treated any better than animals, they see us the way my Grampa saw his 5 or 6 Black Angus.

GMO foods cause sterility by the third generation. Its Right There in front of us, but we buy that crap & feed it to our kids.
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gmo sterility 3rd generation hair growing in mouth


Ohh, yea, I fergotted,, Hair Growing in the critters MOuth,, lovely, ehh?

Read whats on the Georgia Guidestones, understand there really Are eugenicists in decision making positions. Bammy's own "Science Czar" is one,
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #23 - 07/13/12 at 10:17:15
 
jog
what do you do with the rest if your time,is there anything that makes you happy?
what do you do to escape the madness,man you're going to drive yourself into an early grave.
stop and smell the roses,look for something thats right with the world..
peace to you man

didnt mick end up moving on a farm,me thinks hes too busy with livin than findin the conspiracies he used to post about
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #24 - 07/13/12 at 10:28:55
 
Ive got more to do than I can get done,, My health is lousy. Its given me time to look at things I wouldnt have ever had time to look into.
Ive been outside getting ready to set the compressor we got over a year ago,, I havenbt been able to get to it,,

Too much is made of "Be Happy",, I wont live in a fools paradise, pretending things are okay when I KNOW better,.,
& things werent always like this, our country was founded by people who fought for whats right, Pretending we are all just helplessly floating along with no way to take control is what I am fighting against,
Some here are willing to accept things as they are, becxause fighting to change them wont stop things from going bad again,,


Do Not Eat Again, Youll just get hungry again, so whats the use?
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Reply #25 - 07/13/12 at 12:30:11
 
There was a time not too long ago when I was almost exactly like Justin (minus the conspiracy stuff).  Basically an alarmist  libertarian. I would read every single article that came by on www.strike-the-root.com among other sites, and get all riled up about the government outrage du jour.

I'd post on several web forums alerting people to this or that government wrong, and what can we do about it. I sent an embarrassing amount of money to Ron Paul and the libertarian party, both national and Texas.  I sent money to pay for liberty-minded lawyers to help get activists out of trouble. I'd always make a scene at jury duty selection, passing out FIJA flyers instead of being of any value in resolving the dispute.  I donated to freedom-minded radio stations, podcasters, bloggers, to help get the word out. I set up a silver based trading system for libertarians to use, cutting US currency totally out of the loop. I joined the Free State Project, a failed attempt to concentrate libertarians in one small area (New Hampshire) and at least get government rolled back there, setting an example of how "liberty works" and once we'd prospered beyond all belief, the rest of the country would follow suit, ha hah.

After seeing all that amount to exactly Jack Crap, I decided to take back my life.  I had expected a certain amount of frustration. After all, things move slowly, and it would be unrealistic to expect a significant change from the time of being all gung-ho.. to burned out. The main thing that put me off liberty activism is the sheer number of kooks, liars, thieves, and talkers out there, who are ostensibly on our side, but do nothing but embarrass us.. JEEZ! I am so done with helping them.

Justin, hopefully you will one day decide that you too have done enough, for life. Get off the cigarettes, off the computer, get more exercise and give your health a fighting chance. Then maybe you'll have the vitality to do things that will actually help you, like huffing that compressor into place or expanding your vegetable garden. Focus on your OWN life and the things you CAN change. I guarantee you everything else will amount to nothing, except maybe lining the pockets of a few attention whores.

I wish I'd taken all that "liberty" time and money and not been the proverbial slave to liberty.  I should have spent it on a gym membership and workouts, a master's degree, and fixing up my house. Not my metaphorical house that is the social/political structure that surrounds me, I mean my actual house.  The one I shouldn't have neglected while screwing off with USELESS internet politics.  See, that would have done MORE for the cause of liberty, because of the way people make associations between intelligence, good looks, general success, and a person's philosophy. The saying "be the change you want to see in the world" is more than good advice.. it's all you SHOULD do. Just be a healthy, intelligent, successful libertarian.

That doesn't mean liberty won't tickle your palms now and then.  You'll still want to screw off on the internet and post up your opinions. Obviously, I still do. But you're way overboard, dude. You are obviously getting upset about things you have no chance of changing. It is putting miles on your heart. Don't let it put any more miles on your heart.
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Reply #26 - 07/13/12 at 15:37:39
 
though I will give JOG this, at least it's not the same old partisan BS that's the usual fair we get sometimes.
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Reply #27 - 07/13/12 at 20:50:34
 
"When the number of people supporting the masses drops lower than the number of people being supported the time of anarchy is at hand." -ZAR

Whoa ZAR, you have this ass backward....The masses are supporting the rich elitists 1%ers at the top of the food chain. When the masses wake up to this fact, then Anarchy / Revolution will be at hand.

"What about OUR Constitution & Bill of Rights?" -JOG

...Yeah, what about it? They didn't apply to the slaves, the very people who wrote "All men are created equal" were the very elitists who owned slaves.

See, now we are the slaves and the elitists still own us...and it's getting worse...we are the Jews and the elitists are the Nazis.

What can we do about it?? pretty much not a dam* thing.

Elections? Political process? Meh, mere distractions...something for people to play with and argue about while the evil greedy vulture Capitalists who run this country go about their money and power grubbing business.

You think Bush was REALLY elected president?? Twice??? You think they DIDN'T want Obama to win??

There was an old popular song from the 40's that went "Enjoy yourself, it's later than you think".

And so I am with Boule on this. He will live his life as a Libertarian, and I will live mine as a Liberal. We will each vote as such and stick to our core values, principals, and beliefs.

But not one dime to any of them and their "causes"!

They are hucksters! Carnival barkers!

And I say live life as if it's your last day on earth (it could be). Release all of that tension, let go of all of that frustration, and be thankful for your food, your home, your health, and your loved ones. It's all you have and it's all that matters.

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Reply #28 - 07/13/12 at 23:13:20
 
 I stand up for JOG. He's not a crazy soapbox preacher holding up a sign screaming the end is near. I believe he's pretty much dead on. When he makes a statement he backs it up with written print, Most of it is news articles and books written by some very intelligent men. When I have the time I follow his links. Most people on this thread have already admitted they're too involved with their daily lives to give a fat rat's a$$, but you have plenty of time to make fun and critisize him.. It will take enough of us becoming homeless and hungry before we realise we were too stupid and involved to much with our own daily lives to do anything about it. I'd rather listen to JOG anyday than any politician. The man has done his research well, and he stands up for what he believes in. It doesnt matter who I vote for, they're not gonna represent me. The only thing Obama has done that W wouldnt have is the Health Care Bill. The Pubs have been for that all the way back to their hero Ronald Reagan.Romney's against it but he declared it law in his own state, come om give me a break.. Obama's one of the best Republican President's we've ever had, there's just still too much prejudice in this country. He continued the bailout and continued the war as long as Bush was going to. Remember all the freedoms we were going to lose when he was elected and the big rush to buy guns and ammo , LOL. Bush took our freedom away with the Patriot Act. What freedom has Obama taken away from you? I'm not praising Obama, I'm just trying to convince you that there's not but one party now and as George Carlin said brother none of us are in it. George Carlin said "they're gonna get your retirement, they're gonna get your Social Security.  Its called The American Dream because now you have to be asleep to believe it". They got my retirement right before I was scheduled to use it, dont believe it cant happen too you like  I did.They make Gov programs look bad because a low percentage of minorities abuse them, so lets do away with the whole program. Do some investigating (as JOG has done) on where all our foreign aid money is going. Most of it consist of paying Haliburton a million dollars to build a $50,000 building overseas. The foreign counties do NOT get our money, the Wall St boys do. We humans are complacent animals, it will take a large diaster for things to change. History has taught us that. For those of you genuinely concerned about JOG's health such as Bouletard, thank you. For those of you making fun of JOG if you live long enough your days coming. Mines already started. JOG has the guts to stand up for what he believes in and the intelligence to back it up. I dont agree with every single word he says but he has a much better explanation for the way things are now and the direction we are headed in than any politician. I got a letter from Virginia Fox last week on why the rich should not be taxed. I actually voted for her because she is a family friend and she promised to represent me. What made her change her mind? Why do I, a disabled American who worked hard and paid my fair share for 37 years have to  pay taxes but the rich should not have to? Personally I like JOG's explanation on why the rich are not gonna be taxed a lot better than her explanation, its a lot more believable. JOG's explanation explains in detail why she changed her mind once she got in office. For those of you who think's Justin is crazy I kinda feel sorry for you, especially your children. For those of you who claim to be a Christian you need to spend less time critisizing Justin and spend more time with your Bibles. Check out that last book called Revelatiuon. Justin is a modern day Paul Revere, The Illuminati, the New World Order, whatever you wanna call them, they're not only coming, they are here. Been here a long time. Jimmy Carter wasnt nothing but a dumb ol southern peanut farmer president who found out how powererless he was once he got in office. That's the public opinion of him, not mine. Go to You Tube and watch his farewell address. He tells with amazing uncanny accuracy where this country is headed and what our lives will become. They've been here a long time and there's a lot more of em and they keep getting stronger everyday. Thanks Justin. Job Well Done!
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Re: When Will JOG's head explode?
Reply #29 - 07/14/12 at 05:24:57
 
I appreciate what Justin is trying to accomplish. And I check most of the links he posts up. Plus have my own sources that I haven't put up here, because you guys do not need to get painted with "that" brush. Trust me, once you get labeled as a fascist or national socialist, your life isn't worth anything in this country.

I just don't want to come on here one day and see a post from Serow or someone else that Justin keeled over and we've got another hole in the forum family.

JOG, I highly recommend you read the booklet Nazi-Soci. It's a bit hard to find but well worth the effort. Everything you're saying about the here and now was said 75+ years ago about the there and then. When the party was still just a minor fish in a large pond.
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