WebsterMark wrote on 08/21/12 at 05:57:24:


   For one thing it is not MY dirty work, and it is not dirty at all.. It is paying for the services you recieve.. Paying a bill due! You live in a country where you make 20 mill a year, many of the things you take for granted are done by the government, without it you would have been a scrounger at the local dump.. You don't like the government, go live someplace there isn't one, see if anyone is interested in paying 200K to hear you speak? Go there and see if you can make and sell for a profit anything but ammo...

   Take a nation like Denmark for example, they pay 50-60% in taxes, for those taxes they get healthcare, unemployment (That garrantees you don't lose your home), and a University education. Most Danes think this is fair, one out of ten think they should pay more! Businesses pay a flat rate of 25% in Denmark.. I do think that the USA needs to change its tax laws, simplify, and dump the loopholes..

   So your analogy of ME somehow getting the money Romney pays in taxes, is flawed. I pay MY taxes, most likely at a higher rate than Romney, I do not use as much of the services my government has to offer as Romney.. Nor do I make the amount of money he does..

    I've watched what happens when people decide they don't want to pay taxes.. They voted down a higher sales tax in Colorado Springs and it resulted in smaller police force, more crime, turning off of street lights, parks going to waste, and streets going to hell.. You either pay, or you lose services.. pretty simple..

  For some reason the Teabaggers cannot fathom that as population increases so does the cost of government, and the services provided! Fact of life, you buy a new bike, you better have the money to pay for it, you can't just buy that bike then ask you boss to cut your wages?

   The spending has already taken place, it was done by financing two wars, bombing and rebuilding takes massive amounts of money! This was done all the while the rich were getting tax breaks for a trickle down economy boost (Didn't work/never works).. And now you want them to get another break, cut all government regulations and services that keep big money from abusing enviroment, cut education, cut market regulations, and have a nice happy ignorant populace, living in a wasteland... Sure, why not?

   

Its not the increase in population quite - its the aging of the population and the fact that the increase has been almost all from immigration, most of which is Illegal, and as much as Illegals refuse to admit it, Illegals use services and dont pay taxes on a lot of their income.
Dont believe me, go over to any local farmers, street or flea market or whatever you have in your town that serves the low income group and see what the sellers all look like - Now as them if they pay taxes on the cabbage they just sold ... yea they will say "si senor, si" ... but I can guarantee you, hell no.

We are taking in a lot less in taxes, we are spending more on illegals and aging citizens, and we are fighting 2 wars against 2 countries 1/2 way round the world.

The TEA party has long been co opted by the Koch brothers, - billionaires and its still called a grass roots organisation, WTF. BTW Taxed Enough Already - true, except if you're high income earners.

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Srinath.

Romney uses many more government services than I.. Right now he is under secret service protection, he has several homes spread across the US that are tied into infrastructure, he flys which involves FAA, he has many more autos roads used, every one of is campaign stops uses services from local government, the list is endless!! Typical shortsighted vision from the right...

Romney is a metaphor all the super rich you hate so much so the SS protection and campaign stuff doesn’t count since that’s a special circumstance. Besides, your man of the people, Hopey, uses 10 times as much flying around in Air Force one so leave all that out of it.

So, let’s tag a dollar amount to the amount of services you use minus the tax you pay and compare to the dollar amount the typical rich guy uses minus the tax he pays.


Thats a nice little pro-tourist piece from CNN, but try living in Springs, and watch their local news for a few days, you'll see another story..

My company has a branch office in Colorado Springs so it will be easy for me to track. I will and get back to you.

And there you go, calling names, can't back your nuts up with facts, so you start calling names, destroy the messenger.. Sorry, I don't back off, I smell blood, you can't face reality, and I'm here to call you on it!

You and others, refer to me as a Teabagger which, if you know the definition, pretty much gives me the green light to respond to you with anything I want. Crybaby seem an appropriate response.

I really don't know what world you live in, so now we didn't bomb and invade two countrys? And it didn't cost anything? WOW! There were no tax breaks given by Bush???

Never said that. Where did I say that? My only point about the cost of the wars is your excuse that they are responsible for the financial mess we are in is that’s absolute nonsense when you consider Hopey’s stimulus cost for one year was just about equal to the cost for both wars for 10 YEARS. Sorry, but the idea the cost of the wars put us in this spot is silly.

WebsterMark wrote on 08/22/12 at 04:34:49:


When Obama flies on work, as in he has to get to the economic meeting in brussels (example) and uses AF1, he gets a free ride, obviously that is his job, just as your employer covers you for a trip to your customer or other location.
When he flies to campaign stops, he and his whole political entourage -but not Secret Service or aircraft staff (obviously) have to pay for it @ the charter flight rate (fair enough I would say) and that rule has been in place for 35 years atleast.
I also suspect Romney's protection via SS isn't any better or worse than the protection Obama got when he was candidate. Its not fair to say that is why Romney needs to pay more. Its one of the pitfalls of being a democracy.

However, I take that whole "I've never paid less than 13% and when you include charitable contributions its atleast 20%" ras BS.

Our nations jails are full of people who have said ... "drugs in my pants" ... "man these are not my pants ..."

So sorry, I call BS on the 13%.

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Srinath.