I lean to steer a motorcycle,I've never been down.About fifty years of motorcycling.

bill67 wrote on 09/16/12 at 17:53:28:


I couldn't care less if you rode out of your mother's womb on a motorcycle, time on the saddle doesn't mean anything. If you don't fully understand what you're doing on said saddle, that doesn't mean you're not doing it. It's impossible to ride a two-wheeled vehicle without counter-steering.

I still have arguments at the drag-strip with guys who've been racing their whole lives that think only one wheel drives a car unless it has posi. Even though the differential was invented 100 years ago and they've had one in their hands 100 times, they still don't know what it does.

Experience means nothing. Understanding is key. Practice doesn't make perfect, practice makes permanent.

Bill,, I guarantee you that if you want to turn right, the first thing you do is
set the front wheel to the left to initiate the lean,

ROFL!!!!!!  (points at MisterBBQ and pisses his pants)  

How do you lean in the first place? YOu want me to believe you just lay your body over until the bike leans? YOu may think thats what you do, but I promise you, youre pushing a little on the right handlebar when you lean right, driving the front tire left of the line you want, then you bring the bike back under yourself & run thru the corner. Go read some on it, then go ride,

I got in a bind once, right on the edge of the road, left an inch, gravel, at 70 MPH, I needed to turn right, desperately, I had my right leg out, I was leaning out as much as I could, making sure I did NOT let the front tire move left off the road. It took almost 1/4 MILE before I had enough room between the tires & edge of the road to Countersteer & get moved to the right,

Get on wet cement, ride across & make a turn,you can usually see tire tracks on wet cement,

bill67 wrote on 09/17/12 at 08:50:30:




You realize when we are riding "straight" its actually a long series of weaves.
Remember learning to ride a bicycle? All that handlebar swinging back & forth? When we learn to ride, what we've done is, we've learned to keep running it back up under ourselves before it gets too far out, thats a straight line, & countersteering is SO natural, you dont even know youre doing it,

Can you ride a bicycle around a corner with out touching the handle bar.

Regardless of what initiates it, before we turn right, we first turn just a Liiiitle bit
left.

Believe it or dont.


Im done