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Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying
Reply #15 - 10/19/12 at 21:21:30

When disassembling things with small parts/springs inside, first, sweep the area, get it nice & clean, so if anything hits the floor, it wont be just one of many things on the floor. Then, place a towel below your work area, so, if something hits the floor, it wont bounce & roll a mile. Then, if ya do drop something, be quiet, be still & Listen.If you hear nothing, it stayed on the towel,otherwise, whatever you hear is the part you need, escaping. Hope you see soimething moving & hear something at the same time,, Some people cant do anything w/o their "music",, I recommend a nice, quiet workspace for such a project. If something gets away, move slow, be methodical, carefully examine the towel/rag whatever you used.

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heroicseven Full Member Offline oops, I broke it. Posts: 245 San Diego Gender:	Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying Reply #16 - 10/20/12 at 01:29:53 tighten the battery leads? I recently solved a "complex electrical problem" by just going back to the battery and cranking down on the battery leads.
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wernwilk YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18	Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying Reply #17 - 10/20/12 at 04:35:53 thanks for the suggestions. To re-iterate, the biggest concern for me immediately is the bike dying....which is sounding more and more electrical....however there was a reply on here suggestion the charcoal cannister, venting problem.... so i am torn. (Also checked battery terminals as matter of course before)
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying Reply #18 - 10/20/12 at 08:00:04 I think you should kill one thread & just work out of one,
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Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying
Reply #19 - 10/20/12 at 18:58:10

wernwilk wrote on 10/20/12 at 04:35:53:

thanks for the suggestions. To re-iterate, the biggest concern for me immediately is the bike dying....which is sounding more and more electrical....however there was a reply on here suggestion the charcoal cannister, venting problem....

so i am torn.

(Also checked battery terminals as matter of course before)

My rebel would just up and die, in traffic at 50, 60 miles an hour. It seemed the faster I went, the issue was more acute. If you do in fact have a canister, if the bike has CARB stuff from the California market, then it does. The fuel tank vents through it, and since its restricted, it keeps fuel from flowing freely into the system. You said the bike has a rebuild on it, I believe. If that's the case you could have had oil sucked into the canister from blow by, once its in there, in can not be removed.....that was the case of my rebel. The service guys in Washington had no idea that my Washington bought new bike had CARB on it, but I guess Honda makes them that way at time of manufacturing if they think that market might have the demand, if not I guess they just release them to other states not so stringent about emissions. By my own detective work I found the problem on my bike, removed the line going into the canister, from the fuel tank, and it died no more....
But I got a C40 instead of fixing the canister Grin

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Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying
Reply #20 - 10/20/12 at 19:48:01

Ok so latest update.
The bike is not running lean anymore, I returned to the stock air cleaner and its running much smoother.

As for the cutting out problem...I totally removed the hose from the tank that goes down to the cannister. I then removed the purge hose that goes into the carb and capped off the inlet into the carb. So effectively taking the whole cannister system and its hoses out of the equation.

Took it on a ride...within 2 miles on the freeway at WOT it died down again, the engine didn't stop this time, I clutched it to the side and after a few seconds of coughing and spluttering it started to run fine again, I could rejoin the freeway and rev through the gears up to speed again..

I have not yet ruled out electrical problems either but it seems odd that its only at WOT that the problem occurs now.
I am thinking perhaps the fuel level is wrong and causing starvation at high speeds/throttle opening.
When I had the carb apart for cleaning I noticed that the floats are all one plastic piece...am I right in thinking that these are NOT adjustable.

If so how do I check and correct the fuel level?

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: 2009 Boulevard bogging down and dying Reply #21 - 10/20/12 at 20:16:11 either go to one thread or handle it on your own, Im done,.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #22 - 10/19/12 at 20:47:50 Do the Petcock test, found in the Tech section.
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wernwilk YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #23 - 10/20/12 at 04:30:01 already fitted raptor petcock.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #24 - 10/20/12 at 06:56:38 When it dies, will the starter turn it over Right Then or do you have to wait? & How long till it will restart?
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wernwilk YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #25 - 10/20/12 at 16:32:42 starts immediately.....turns over right away too.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #26 - 10/20/12 at 16:43:53 Can ya haul the clutch in & hit the starter while its rolling to a halt & it turn over? will it start? If so, Im thinking youve got a spider in the bowl,or enough crap in the exhaust to shut the motor off because it cant exhale.
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wernwilk YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #27 - 10/20/12 at 19:52:30 The bike did not die this time, just stopped revving and would idle with the clutch in whilst rolling...after a 2nd or two of spluttering the bike would rev fine and take off through the gears...its like fuel starvation at WOT...new raptor petcock on there, fresh carb strip and clean, gas cap checked and clear.
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Reply #28 - 10/20/12 at 20:15:08

This may not be your problem, but I had a similar issue when I first changed to the raptor petcock on mine and I did a fuel flow test on the petcock and found it to be severely diminished. Turns out that during storage at some point a bug had crawled up inside the petcock before it was sold to me. Once I took apart the petcock and found said bug and removed it all was fine and issue went away.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: S40 dies on road. Reply #29 - 10/20/12 at 20:15:20 Youre absolutely certain there is nothing in the bowl but gas? Based on what youre saying, Id have to drain the bowl into a glass, drop the bowl & cast my eyes upon it,
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