WebsterMark wrote on 10/28/12 at 06:47:21:No, president,... none... would let an embassy be overrun
besides, what if one did? what if obama did do that? who would know without Fox News? Should Woodward and Berstein just said, aw hell, the President said he did know anything so lets just forget about it.....
you guys gotta get off your Faux News crap. besides, as has often been pointed out, Fox News is around because of NBC's etc... failures.
Failures? Of what, not giving you the bent perspective you WANT, instead of the truth? Everything was out there for all to see, Fox and ole Mitt just decided to blow it up into something it is not...
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Above the line, irrelevant, dont care..
Let a "CONSULATE" (big diff) be over run? What do you suppose he should have done?
They FIRST asked for help when? I heard a couple of weeks ago..W/O that info, the answer is pure speculation.
Call in the Marines?
Id say thatd be a good first step.
Think they could have been deployed in a couple of hours? We are talking Libya,
Again, we go back to when was the request initially made. & If it was a couple of weeks ago, ( Prior to 9/11), then, heres what they shoulda done. They shoulda stuck a team on a fast jet & got some people on the ground, EVALUATING the situation.
You guys act like we dont have this kinda stuff down to an ART..
We have The Worlds Premier Military, We have satellites, All the men & equipment had to come from somewhere. Could you get a team of men & equipment together to attack a place & somehow not stick out like a sore thumb in town? YOu think this event just sprang up & the average person in that town was shocked & amazed? I dont. I think the people we let die knew they were gonna get killed & asked for help & asked for it soon enough to get it OR,, ( remember the assessment team?) let the pros evaluate the situation & if its too hot to handle, Leave,, ),, BUT, that wasnt done,, It was handled as poorly as it could have been handled, &, UNless someone can show me that they didnt ask for help until just a few days prior to 9/11, Cuz I believe they asked & asked & asked for a coupla weeks,
not just outside San Diego.. Nothing else short of armor would have done any good, we are talking mortars and RPG's against light arms, you could have put five more people on the ground and gotten the same results!
So, what youre saying here LOOKS to be
Well,, It doesnt matter that they asked for help & Nothing was done. America doesnt have the resources & ability to actually provide security, so, they were gonna die,
Again, why arent people Thinking ? What would YOU do, if you were responsible for the safety of some people in a Hot Spot & they asked you to send help? Nothing? Thats what they got, NOTHING,, & How is that defendable? Because Bush screwed up? I know what I would have done. I would have Hot Shotted a team in there to see what was going on & then I woulda either got my people out or brought in enough Marines to handle it, & Dont even try to tell me we dont have the $$$. WE have the $$ for everything we WANT to have the $$$ for,,
You could go back in the records and most likely find EVERY consulate, EVERY embassy asking for more manpower!
I havent seen reports that indicated they were.
Twenty plus embassy's and consulates came under attack by protesters that day.
A protest isnt an attack,, I havent seen the news, but I dont remember any other place sustaining any real damage. I dont know of so much as a window knocked out or graffitti sprayed on a wall,., So, please, post up some evidence to these claims that youre using to allow yoursel;f to shrug this off so easily.,. Id like to be able to do the same,,
. So choose one.. Maybe you should ask "What happened to the funding for security?"..Oh yea, the GOP cut it..
& How many people would have been there had security budgets not been cut? 5? 6?,, what? YOu claim 5 or 6 more woulda made no difference, & Act as if thats reason enough to do nothing.
This was a Military Attack, RPG's are not what protesters have. Normal Security would have to be some Pretty Serious stuff to be able to fend off such an attack,
MOst offices have fire extinguishers around,( what they had) some even have sprinkler systems, ( what they had before budget cuts) butu, sometimes, ya just gotta dial 9/11 & get the fire department out to help.
They Called the fire department,,, over & over,, & no one came,
& when was that? & If the dems thot it such a bad idea, did they have the power to change it at any time prior to this attack>?
I REally want you to respond to my line by line points. I dont want a rant about Bush, I want to know what you would have done if you had gotten a call for help.,too.