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Reply #30 - 11/21/12 at 05:57:11
 
I am going to visit my mother over the Thanksgiving holiday, and she always has a list of things for me to repair.  She told me her lawn tractor is acting up.  She went down a hill and the mower deck stopped working and the switch would not turn it on again.  She then drove it down to the garage and shut it off to clean out the deck, and it would not start again as the starter would not work.  Sounds to me like the seat safety switch shut the deck off when she went down the hill and got "light in the saddle".....and it is still acting up and won't allow the starter to engage.

It might be time for the "Bypass surgery"!
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Reply #31 - 11/21/12 at 06:13:36
 
Gonna throw this out there even if against the Mods grain.

I appreciate safety devices.
It's not that I am going to do something stupid because I am stupid (which can be argued either way).  It's because I am (getting) old and suffer from bouts of CRS.  Just yesterday, I would have done a pogo if that kickstand switch didn't nudge me by turning off the engine for me.
Why was it down?  Dunno.. I forget.  Did I feel stupid?  No. (but nobody saw me).  I would have felt a lot more stupid if I had pogo'd that bike into the bushes.  Does it happen a LOT?  No.  That was the first time in at least a couple months.
Gene Pool?  What do you care?  I had my three kids and now I have a safety in place for that as well.  Cheesy

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Reply #32 - 11/21/12 at 06:23:25
 
youz, I am right there with you. I am starting to have problems with my short term memory and my long term memory as well as my short term memory.

Safety's are there for a reason. If they prevent just one of us Rhodes Scholars from being injured by being human, then I don't see the issue.

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Reply #33 - 11/21/12 at 06:40:42
 
I agree,, safeties are there for a reason,, & doesnt a rubber finger poking down past the stand a coupla inches catch the ground & flip it up before its a pogo stick ride? & that rubber poking out,, will it mess up & keep your bike from running? Mite be more than one way to be human & still be safe.


Not every new Gizmo added to a car is really progress, either,,The Egg Key,
YOu guys seen that? Shove this little eggish shaped thingy into the dash, or, on some cars, just have it IN the car & then crank on the switch or just push a button & whammo,, the car starts,, & Just what on Earth problem does that crap solve? A solution, in search of a problem,,
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Reply #34 - 11/21/12 at 07:49:23
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 06:40:42:
Not every new Gizmo added to a car is really progress, either,,The Egg Key,
YOu guys seen that? Shove this little eggish shaped thingy into the dash, or, on some cars, just have it IN the car & then crank on the switch or just push a button & whammo,, the car starts,, & Just what on Earth problem does that crap solve? A solution, in search of a problem,,

It solves one problem...

name a situation where you might have to leave your car running and have it automatically shut off after a minute or so?
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Reply #35 - 11/21/12 at 08:18:57
 
Guyz,.. I hope everyone understands this thread was somewhat, tongue-in-cheek,...
Of course safety's are important... it's just funny to look at them in total and realise how very many silly things we can do...
... and how some of these safety's just seem to work against us... while they try to protect us...

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Reply #36 - 11/21/12 at 10:04:05
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 06:40:42:
Not every new Gizmo added to a car is really progress, either,,The Egg Key,
YOu guys seen that? Shove this little eggish shaped thingy into the dash, or, on some cars, just have it IN the car & then crank on the switch or just push a button & whammo,, the car starts,, & Just what on Earth problem does that crap solve? A solution, in search of a problem,,


Ain't seen that, but have head of the "FOB" thingy on Hardleys, and that it is possible to start the bike, start riding away, and have it die on you as you hit the street.. as the FOB is in the garage.  Grin
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Reply #37 - 11/21/12 at 18:35:42
 
verslagen1 wrote on 11/21/12 at 07:49:23:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 06:40:42:
Not every new Gizmo added to a car is really progress, either,,The Egg Key,
YOu guys seen that? Shove this little eggish shaped thingy into the dash, or, on some cars, just have it IN the car & then crank on the switch or just push a button & whammo,, the car starts,, & Just what on Earth problem does that crap solve? A solution, in search of a problem,,

It solves one problem...

name a situation where you might have to leave your car running and have it automatically shut off after a minute or so?



They do that? I cant imagine wanting my car to shut off after I leave it,,
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Reply #38 - 11/21/12 at 18:58:31
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 18:35:42:
verslagen1 wrote on 11/21/12 at 07:49:23:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 06:40:42:
Not every new Gizmo added to a car is really progress, either,,The Egg Key,
YOu guys seen that? Shove this little eggish shaped thingy into the dash, or, on some cars, just have it IN the car & then crank on the switch or just push a button & whammo,, the car starts,, & Just what on Earth problem does that crap solve? A solution, in search of a problem,,

It solves one problem...

name a situation where you might have to leave your car running and have it automatically shut off after a minute or so?



They do that? I cant imagine wanting my car to shut off after I leave it,,


You would if someone just stuck a gun in your face and told you to get out.
and you would rather it went down the street aways so you could call LEO.
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Reply #39 - 11/21/12 at 19:05:35
 
Is that how they work?
I cant imagine keeping the "egg" after such an event,, the only egg I would keep would be the one I laid in my drawz..
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Reply #40 - 11/21/12 at 23:21:42
 
If someone puts a gun in my face... I don't want them to get down the driveway and have the engine stop... they might not be happy about that..
I want them to get out of Dodge...
I'll worry about the car later...

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Reply #41 - 11/22/12 at 00:20:59
 
I still prefer the Old ways, This is still a solution in search of a problem,
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Reply #42 - 11/22/12 at 04:19:35
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/21/12 at 23:21:42:
If someone puts a gun in my face... I don't want them to get down the driveway and have the engine stop... they might not be happy about that..
I want them to get out of Dodge...
I'll worry about the car later...



Each to their own.  If someone put a gun to my face, I would want the engine to stop at the end of the driveway.  They would be getting out of the car at the end of the driveway in the cross hairs of at least one rifle, more depending on who was home.  A handgun at 150 feet vs. a dialed in rifle at that distance, if he was smart he'd be dropping the gun and going to jail.
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Reply #43 - 11/27/12 at 07:12:42
 
Well I fixed my mom's lawn mower this weekend.....and it was not the seat safety as I had thought.  The mower stopped as she went down a hill....and I had assumed it must be that seat safety.

Turned out to be another safety switch just doing it's job.  The oil filter had come loose and was slowly leaking oil.  The engine was down about 1/2 a quart and as she nosed down the hill the engine lost oil pressure....and the pressure switch killed the engine.

I removed the old filter, changed the oil, and put a new filter on and snugged it down.....and it works just fine. In this case the safety switch did a good job of protecting the engine.
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Reply #44 - 11/27/12 at 09:38:39
 
Those were common on some oil field engines, oil pressure drops off & Whammo,, that motor shuts off.. I like that idea pretty good..
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