Here we go again.

Now watch the NRA claim that if these kids had guns this wouldn't have happened. Fox News will be defending the shooter.

We have cracked down on library books, cell phones, fertilizer, wearing shoes at airports, fireworks, animal control...but guns?? GUNS are sacred, and so anyone, and I mean ANYONE has the right to carry firearms anywhere, anytime, anyplace, and for any reason in America.

let me say there is no such things as "gun rights". There are gun privileges, just like driving a motor vehicle is a privileg...

The second amendment is a relic of our colonial days...some day when this country matures, we will realize that. But for now we are at the mercy of the NRA, cowardly politicians, and many people with an unhealthy fetish.

Gun "privileges" mean:  Regulated - Controled or supervised by means of rules, training, and regulations. No more gun shows with people selling fully automatic firearms out of the trunks of their cars.

Gun owners should be trained professionally, as you've seen over and over what happens when guns are not respected.

Why would you even think that just anyone can run out and stockpile weapons and ammo without proving some kind of responsibility?

The second amendment spoke only of a "Well  Regulated Militia". That was the intent in colonial times. In colonial times they all had to attend a monthly drill. All firearm owners were members of the local militia.

So you want to be part of the militia? By all means, what part of ORGANIZED, in the words, do you not understand?

Sooner or later people in this country WILL DEMAND change...I'd start with licensing every gun owner, requiring a waiting period, a background check, and a number of hours of training.

Fire away at me, (as I know the stupid will do)...gun rights fetishists are impossible to talk to...oh and before you say it, you all know that I AM a gun owner, a retired federal LEO with over 40 years of carrying on the job, and range training every three months....I just don't buy into the paranoia of "gun nuts" that they are going to come and take my precious guns away...for starters they are not precious, and secondly stop listening to the fund raising paranoia of the NRA..in my opinion a despicable right-wing domestic terrorist organization.

Did you notice that every this happens, someone invariably suggests that everyone should be armed. Just what we need . Everyone pulling out their guns and shooting at the same time ...

It's of course no use. Nobody in our federal government is going to cross the NRA. The NRA wants to arm EVERYBODY, crazies included .

There were 10,750 gun deaths in the USA this past year. That's roughly five times the number of people killed on 9/11...God Bless America".

By contrast In Canada there were 52 gun deaths (most of them in hunting accidents). And eight people were killed in Great Briton...Shame on this country...at times like this it is embarrassing to be an American.

If your first reaction to this shooting spree is to think "Oh Sh!t"...Obama/liberals are going to try to "take/grab our guns", your priorities as a human being are sick.

There are hundreds of millions of guns in the US. No gun law or ammo law is going to work now. That toothpaste is out of the tube. Stop chasing rabbits. If you could wave a magic wand and make all the guns disappear, okay fine, but you can't do that. Guns are everywhere. We focused on guns after columbine and we got what? Other columbines.
I have no easy answer, but listening to network news anchors and publicity hungry politicians demand more gun laws is not an answer even worth discussing right now.

I think we should respectfully bow our heads in shared sorrow for all those who died and lost loved ones in CT.  It is not appropriate to discuss political isssues such as gun control at this time (and lets face it, this is hardley a rare occurance anymore).  If there is ever a break in this ongoing madness, then let us discuss gun control.

over 32,000 auto deaths (2011) 3 times the stat you quote for gun deaths
driving is a privielage,its licensed,regulated,taxed etc. but people still die

"over 32,000 auto deaths (2011) 3 times the stat you quote for gun deaths
driving is a privielage,its licensed,regulated,taxed etc. but people still die"

...and your point is??

So, since gun control or lack there of is a moot point, why don't we just step back, think about those families, and maybe, just maybe, take a look at our own lives and see if something is a bit "off". The shooter got that way for a reason, most likely a treatable or preventable reason...

an excellent point WD. There are millions and millions of guns in homes around this country. It would be interesting to add up the number of guns people on this forum have in their homes. I have three. Gun control in the sense that it could prevent things like this from happening is a pipe dream. However, reaching out to someone who may feel isolated is not a pipe dream. Everyone of us can do that today. One kind word can make all the difference to someone struggling with thoughts in their heads they know are not right, but are powerless to stop.

arteacher wrote on 12/15/12 at 07:29:49:


Not if you ask the gun nuts ... "gun control is hitting your target man" ...

I cant even discuss this, We need to clamp down on guns, bullets, and everything else that is a weapon of mass murder. Without a gun he'd have gone on a knife rampage, or a baseball bat rampage, or a cabbage rampage ...

That means 2 people dead 5 injured maximum ... cant stop people from going berserk, we can limit the damage. BTW it took 150+ years to get here, it may well take us 150 years to get back If we go in that direction.

Cool.
Srinath.

It is times like this that our emotions may get the best of us.
I for one am not for taking all our guns. I don't believe that is the answer.
Remember they tried with prohobition. That didn't stop people from attaing alcohol, nor would it prevent ones from attaing guns.
Exactly what is the answer?
Enjoy every precious moment with your loved ones..
Life is precious and as we all know, it can end in a blink of an eye.
Peace and love to all. kim