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Reply #120 - 12/31/12 at 17:17:27

YOu need to be able to discern Rights versus practicality. I KNOW I cant have a tank, I couldnt pay to run it for an hour or arm it for a minute but thats not the point. I cant even own a Canon,, & WHY Not? I would Love to have a canon! How cool would that be? Ohh,, but, Nooo,, YOU cant have one of those, YOU mite do something stewpid with it..
Guilty before doing anything wrong,, face it, youre an apologist for big government, you dont want real freedom for yourself & would deny it to others, because youre afraid of what they mite do. Youve never seen freedom nor have I.
Is it not strange that we cant raise Hemp, a wonderful plant, industrial & medicinal values abound in it,,, because there are traces of THC, only laboratory detectable traces, waaay insufficient to get anyone high, yet, we are all supposed to just be thrilled to drink the water that is packed with toxic chemicals that are in sufficiently detectable levels & are KNOWN to be bad for us? BUt,, thats okay,, we NEED them telling us we can drink sorry water, but we cant raise hemp.. absolute insanity.

Ohh,, but the water falls inside EPA guidelines,, PHHHHHT..

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Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon'
Reply #121 - 01/01/13 at 07:27:18

Starlifter wrote on 12/30/12 at 17:42:16:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Oh really??...ALL men?...tell that to the slaves and the north American Indians of the times.

You started by claiming that "our rights came from the founding fathers in the form of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...not from God", yet after I showed concrete evidence to the contrary, instead of acknowledging that the founders did in fact believe our Rights did originate from God, you evaded the question by trying to change the subject to slavery.
Answer the original question associated with the point that YOU claimed ... did the founding fathers believe our Rights came from God or not ?

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Reply #122 - 01/01/13 at 09:45:43

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/31/12 at 17:17:27:

YOu need to be able to discern Rights versus practicality. I KNOW I cant have a tank, I couldnt pay to run it for an hour or arm it for a minute but thats not the point. I cant even own a Canon,, & WHY Not? I would Love to have a canon! How cool would that be? Ohh,, but, Nooo,, YOU cant have one of those, YOU mite do something stewpid with it..
Guilty before doing anything wrong,, face it, youre an apologist for big government, you dont want real freedom for yourself & would deny it to others, because youre afraid of what they mite do. Youve never seen freedom nor have I.
Is it not strange that we cant raise Hemp, a wonderful plant, industrial & medicinal values abound in it,,, because there are traces of THC, only laboratory detectable traces, waaay insufficient to get anyone high, yet, we are all supposed to just be thrilled to drink the water that is packed with toxic chemicals that are in sufficiently detectable levels & are KNOWN to be bad for us? BUt,, thats okay,, we NEED them telling us we can drink sorry water, but we cant raise hemp.. absolute insanity.

Ohh,, but the water falls inside EPA guidelines,, PHHHHHT..

Hey actually there is a lot of people who own cannons, I know of 1 who even owns an anti aircraft gun. You can ... I doubt there is too many rules against making, or even buying a cannon.
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Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon'
Reply #123 - 01/01/13 at 17:54:36

"You started by claiming that "our rights came from the founding fathers in the form of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...not from God", yet after I showed concrete evidence to the contrary, instead of acknowledging that the founders did in fact believe our Rights did originate from God, you evaded the question by trying to change the subject to slavery.
Answer the original question associated with the point that YOU claimed ... did the founding fathers believe our Rights came from God or not ?"

They came from the founding fathers. THEY are the ones who put the God in the Constitution, not God.

Now YOU answer the question.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Oh really??...ALL men??...tell that to the slaves and the north American Indians of the times.

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Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon'
Reply #124 - 01/02/13 at 04:16:47

Starlifter wrote on 01/01/13 at 17:54:36:

"You started by claiming that "our rights came from the founding fathers in the form of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...not from God", yet after I showed concrete evidence to the contrary, instead of acknowledging that the founders did in fact believe our Rights did originate from God, you evaded the question by trying to change the subject to slavery.
Answer the original question associated with the point that YOU claimed ... did the founding fathers believe our Rights came from God or not ?"

They came from the founding fathers. THEY are the ones who put the God in the Constitution, not God.

Now YOU answer the question.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Oh really??...ALL men??...tell that to the slaves and the north American Indians of the times.

Yes, ALL men are created equal and under God have the same rights. When the nation was founded there were a lot of states that did not want to give up their slaves, and men of the time compromised over the issue to get the states together into the nation. Many thought slavery was wrong and set them free; others did not, and it eventually led to the Civil War and a lot of people died. In my mind they died needlessly, over an issue that should not have been an issue. Slavery should not have been allowed to stand, I think it is absolutely wrong.
Unfortunately we live in an imperfect world and we are imperfect men.
I'm sure you will agree that you and I both have made mistakes, some of which may have cost us, and others around us, dearly. We do the best we can with what we have. YES ? ?

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Reply #125 - 01/02/13 at 05:34:23

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"You started by claiming that "our rights came from the founding fathers in the form of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...not from God", yet after I showed concrete evidence to the contrary, instead of acknowledging that the founders did in fact believe our Rights did originate from God, you evaded the question by trying to change the subject to slavery.
Answer the original question associated with the point that YOU claimed ... did the founding fathers believe our Rights came from God or not ?"

They came from the founding fathers. THEY are the ones who put the God in the Constitution, not God.

Now YOU answer the question.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Oh really??...ALL men??...tell that to the slaves and the north American Indians of the times

ONLY GOD can make all men equal.....Men can make whatever rules they want, including making others unequal due to race, religion or any other reason. We see it all over the world for different reasons from all races of people.

When man decides that he alone defines what is right/wrong, good/evil. then there is None of either for it is only his choice. And before you say the majority or society dictates these things remember. The south thought slavery was OK, Hitler thought killing Jews was OK, the Mayans approved of human sacrifice, and so on, and so on.

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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #126 - 01/02/13 at 08:35:23 Here ya go JoG... I'll take 2 full sized as my finder's fee... http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_106_665
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #127 - 01/02/13 at 10:24:35 WD wrote on 01/02/13 at 08:35:23: Here ya go JoG... I'll take 2 full sized as my finder's fee... http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_106_665 Too bad I can't find the full sized one...
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #128 - 01/02/13 at 15:42:31 http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_106_665&products_id=16... Just for you Greg, full sized working field piece... Emphasis on working...
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #130 - 01/02/13 at 17:58:02 WD wrote on 01/02/13 at 15:42:31: http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_106_665&products_id=16... Just for you Greg, full sized working field piece... Emphasis on working... Cool! But I can buy a lot of assault weapons and cop killer bullets for that!
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Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon'
Reply #131 - 01/02/13 at 20:36:39

Yes, ALL men are created equal and under God have the same rights. Lancer

Yes, I like the above statement....However, the sacred Bible begs to differ:

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.

Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything you do. Try to please them all the time, not just when they are watching you. Serve them sincerely because of your reverent fear of the Lord.

...Oh, and don't forget the "all men are created equal" treatment of the North American Indians...you know manifest destiny inspired by God and all that.

Quote:
"They will not suppose that that Government will avow, as the basis of their policy towards the United States a system of arresting the natural growth of the savages within their own territories, for the sake of preserving a perpetual desert for savages."

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Reply #132 - 01/03/13 at 04:48:45

Reading this thread is really enlightening...

WD wrote on 12/29/12 at 00:26:38:

If I can't drop the target with one shot, I don't take the shot. Regardless of how many rounds are available.

I know wild boar is a delicacy in Europe, but here they are a dammed nuisance. Even the buzzards won't eat them. Many state game departments have issued eradication orders on them. One or two marksmen with 30 round magazines makes a whole lot more sense than sending in a couple hundred weekend wannabe types who tend to do more damage to themselves (high alcohol consumption) than they do the pig population. So few people around here still hunt that I'm allowed 3 doe, per day, from early September to January 6th. And right now we're in a 30 geese per day season.

30 round AR/SK/AK or belt fed shotgun, to me, is just another harvest tool.

Have you ever seen buzzards cook ? Grin

You guys need help, pronto !

1. Hire yourselves some proper boar hunters; may I suggest Italians from Tuscany and Sardinia, and Corsicans (don't ever ask a Corsican if he's French, he'll shoot you Cheesy

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2. Hire yourselves some proper chefs, not just mule train cooks;

Suddenly wild boar sausages and ragout (coarsely ground meat sauce) will become the menu of the day on anybody's and everybody's Sunday lunch, and boar will not become a nuinsance any more.

Last, I don't need 30 geese/day, I'm already struggling with the one bird I married 23 years ago... Roll Eyes

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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #133 - 01/03/13 at 05:35:24 So when are you coming over to hunt them? We have truffles...
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Reply #134 - 01/03/13 at 05:51:09

Yes, I like the above statement....However, the sacred Bible begs to differ:

Misinterpreting the Bible to claim it condones slavery was (and apparently still is) a favorite trick of racist as justification for their actions. However, any fair reading reveals that simply isn’t the case. If you really want to get into it, I will. Or you could just read it yourself without any preconceived ideas of what it says. Read it fresh.

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