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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #150 - 01/09/13 at 15:30:04 Although I strongly disagree with Bill, I am glad to see him posting.
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Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon'
Reply #151 - 01/09/13 at 15:36:30

Key issues here:

Gun control nuts want to ban assault guns and mainly cause they have high capacity mags cause they want to ban 30 round clips in anything.

Gun rights nuts wants access to any gun.

Rifles of the WWII are not considered Assault rifles unless they have bayonet lugs. (cause they're scarry Roll Eyes

) These have high powered rounds but small clips.

Pistol grip stocks is just bogus along with many other restrictions.
I understand the concerns with finger print triggers, the last thing you want to learn as you're pulling the trigger, is you're not allowed to pull the trigger.

It seems to me the Key Point everyone should be addressing is gun security. I know this is part of Cali gun laws, they are locked up, trigger lock or barrel locks. Naturally, anyone with the key or combination can get at 'em.

I would propose that anything with a removeable mag, have a locking fingerprint activated mag that would either prevent any use or limit the gun to single or to a few rounds. Then these guns would be checked every few years for operation and replacement of the battery. Transfer of the gun would require reset of the fingerprint at the gun shop.

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Reply #152 - 01/09/13 at 16:17:34

Yea what will make a gun nut lock up their gun ?
We have tried everything ... see gun legislation laws are 100,000 pages of legislative actions. Of that 5,000 pages say what the restrictions are. 95,000 pages say what the loopholes are. Like your ww2 gun with a bayonet is only what is assault and its an assault weapon only in zip codes that are prime numbers ending in 2 or 6.

I think all that is boo oooo oooo ooo oooo gus, costs tons of $$$ and does nothing for gun safety and to keep em from falling into the wrong hands.

In addition to that, they are already in some of the wrong hands, just waiting for the owners to go nuts.

We tax a bullet 99 bucks. Flat tax. All going to the feds.

So you have a hoard of guns and bullets for ... "self defence". Cool, you can still have em ... when the intruders come - to say nothing of savages or bandits and vulcans etc ... shoot em. You will make sure your stash of $3 million in bullets are now kept safe ...

I think the only thing that will happen with bullets after that, the people who are worth the 100 buck bullet ... like a woman kills her ex husband, not some random strangers in a movie theater.

Yes all the current restrictions for sales will need to exist, and be increased slowly as the gun nuts will never let such legislation go through.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #153 - 01/10/13 at 08:20:03 How can anyone grow up in America & so completely fail to grasp the concepts of freedom & responsibility? How old are you Srinath? Under 30, surely.
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #154 - 01/10/13 at 09:09:29 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/10/13 at 08:20:03: How can anyone grow up in America & so completely fail to grasp the concepts of freedom & responsibility? ... This is the real question.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28996 L.A. California Gender:	Re: I propose we define 'assault weapon' Reply #155 - 01/10/13 at 09:21:22 Tax a bullet is a reloaders dream, I'll go hoard some used equipment right now. Yet a mag lock isn't feasible... gun nuts keep 'em loaded by their bedside... all of them.
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Reply #157 - 01/10/13 at 10:18:23

verslagen1 wrote on 01/10/13 at 09:21:22:

Tax a bullet is a reloaders dream, I'll go hoard some used equipment right now.

Yet a mag lock isn't feasible... gun nuts keep 'em loaded by their bedside... all of them. Roll Eyes

So that in their drunken sleep they can shoot their wife coming back from the bathroom ?
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Reply #158 - 01/10/13 at 10:22:16

Greg wrote on 01/10/13 at 09:09:29:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/10/13 at 08:20:03:

How can anyone grow up in America & so completely fail to grasp the concepts of freedom & responsibility? ...

This is the real question.

Yea I understand the freedom think ... the responsibility ... you see that's where the guns given by momma to the nut case kid, guns given to convicted murderers, and the psycho's etc etc ... see that's where the gun nuts are failing in their responsibility.
If any of those trigger lock RF-id or otherwise ones aren't working, I can say they are really really irresponsible ... and getting them to lock it up ... if it costs a few 1000 ... they will.
I have plenty of responsibility ... the others dont and we are policing and arming our schools to compensate ?
Does that even sound right to you ... of course you are already screaming about too much govt ...
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Reply #159 - 01/10/13 at 10:23:13

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/10/13 at 08:20:03:

How can anyone grow up in America & so completely fail to grasp the concepts of freedom & responsibility? How old are you Srinath? Under 30, surely.

Yea I hahve to be young ... who else will be so stupid.
Maybe I am not raised in america ... Ever cross your mind.

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Reply #160 - 01/10/13 at 10:27:19

I must admit I keep a loaded gun very near my bed, not within reach, want to make sure I am awake when I grab it. 8 shot 12GA. if your in my house while I am trying to sleep I assume you are a threat and I will not spend the time to load my gun and If you want to post that info in a local newspaper you go right ahead.

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Reply #161 - 01/10/13 at 11:05:41

MShipley wrote on 01/10/13 at 10:27:19:

I must admit I keep a loaded gun very near my bed, not within reach, want to make sure I am awake when I grab it. 8 shot 12GA. if your in my house while I am trying to sleep I assume you are a threat and I will not spend the time to load my gun and If you want to post that info in a local newspaper you go right ahead.

OK that is you ... however Mommy gave her guns to her deranged kid who killed 27 people.
The 100 buck bullet will have no effect on you.
You have the bullet, when its used properly, as in you shoot an intruder, cops show up with a body bag and leave ... and you get a coupon for the bullet, you can buy it @ their cost ...
Same with the mommy that shot the guy in her attic. Heck I'd have cops restock her @ the time of "dead guy removal".
You want to shoot up a few 1000 rounds into a movie theater with strangers in it ... its gonna cost you a few 100,000 bucks in cash. So long before you have even bought the movie ticket ... you're out say 200k. How's that for gun control.
OK fine you gonna make your bullet, OK fine, none of the metals and materials will be easily available. Then you ahve to be a chemist, and a machinist to be able to do it, and it will still cost you a few 1000 @ a minimum ... Plus ... it will instantly get gun owners to lock up their spare stash of ammo. You may have a bunch in your gun ... and use it for protection ... but the 12,000 spare you own, wont be by the gun left loose.

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Reply #162 - 01/10/13 at 11:13:54

You have no evidence that she "gave" him the firearm.

What if she followed the laws in place and stored it in a safe separate from the ammo?
What if he cracked the safe open and stole it?

Assume, on the other hand, that she was very lax and did not secure her firearm and he could just walk up and take it? What then?
It's still the gun's fault, right?

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Reply #163 - 01/10/13 at 15:16:11

SrinaTH WILL PRESENT THE "FACTS" AS HE WANTS..Get used to it,.
The scary thing is, I think he actually believes that things are the way he says. He doesnt even entertain the possibility that things may not have happened as he imagines. In his mind she Gave him everything he needed.,.No, he wasnt a smart kid, he didnt just figure out how to lay hands on what he wanted. She wasnt shocked to turn & see her own son about to blow her head off,, naaah,,

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Reply #164 - 01/10/13 at 19:32:15

Paraquat wrote on 01/10/13 at 11:13:54:

You have no evidence that she "gave" him the firearm.

What if she followed the laws in place and stored it in a safe separate from the ammo?
What if he cracked the safe open and stole it?

Assume, on the other hand, that she was very lax and did not secure her firearm and he could just walk up and take it? What then?
It's still the gun's fault, right?

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Sorry, I meant to say "gave" - she got killed with the gun first, then he got all the ammo and the other guns - I think the investigation is going on though, that's the theory though. I dunno if she gave them willingly and got killed, or if he took em, killed her and got more.

Its not the guns fault. Its the careless owners part. Its the careless sellers fault. There is no way to properly make sure they dont get into the wrong hands cos the NRA says, we need guns and we need them now.

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