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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Boston Marathon bombings Reply #45 - 04/18/13 at 06:14:33 Bill - I think more people carried than you realized. I imagine they did so concealed though. Probably where they got "concealed carry" from. --Steve
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Reply #46 - 04/18/13 at 08:37:07

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

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Reply #47 - 04/18/13 at 09:11:57

bill67 wrote on 04/17/13 at 19:24:46:

If everyone carried a weapon there would be far more killings than there is now.Good people would be killing another good person over a small little argument.Like you got that parking space and I was after it first. And all the crazes will still be killing.

You know bill if that was gonna happen, it would be happening all the time all over the US right now. You would be amazed at how many people have their CCL today and also carry most of the time.

Yet we don't have a hail of gun fire on the streets from the stuff you describe now do we. Granted the population is getting less and less smart but there is still some common sense there, not much I grant you but some.

I don't have the sites with the stats right now on hand, but it has been shown, that the areas where the CCL's have been allowed to pass the the public does use their privilege and right, the crime rate has dropped considerably.

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Reply #48 - 04/18/13 at 09:22:57

It will start happening,I went from 20 year old till 64 without a gun,Guns weren't in then,other than hunting,Now all you do is hear about guns and they will be very in for the young people growing up if we don't make some restrictions.Forget about your self and think about the future of your kids and grand kids.Any stats today aren't what they will be 1,2,5,10,years from now.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Boston Marathon bombings Reply #49 - 04/18/13 at 09:37:56 So, because you know a stupid person, I shouldnt be allowed to protect myself & family,, Makes Perfect sense
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Dane Allen Serious Thumper Offline Carpe Diem!! Posts: 1217 Riverside, CA Gender:	Re: Boston Marathon bombings Reply #50 - 04/18/13 at 09:46:31 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:37:56: So, because you know a stupid person, I shouldnt be allowed to protect myself & family,, Makes Perfect sense BINGO!!! My rights aren't dependant on the foolishness of others.
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Reply #51 - 04/18/13 at 10:11:01

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

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Reply #52 - 04/18/13 at 10:12:48

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:46:31:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:37:56:

So, because you know a stupid person, I shouldnt be allowed to protect myself & family,, Makes Perfect sense

BINGO!!!

My rights aren't dependant on the foolishness of others.

So you drive drunk then ? Cos you've not driven drunk and killed no one ... why should you have to stay sober while driving. 99% of drunks have not killed anyone driving ... they should all stay drunk while driving ?

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Reply #53 - 04/18/13 at 10:18:21

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:12:48:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:46:31:

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:37:56:

So, because you know a stupid person, I shouldnt be allowed to protect myself & family,, Makes Perfect sense

BINGO!!!

My rights aren't dependant on the foolishness of others.

So you drive drunk then ? Cos you've not driven drunk and killed no one ... why should you have to stay sober while driving. 99% of drunks have not killed anyone driving ... they should all stay drunk while driving ?

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There is no constitutional right to drive drunk - or even drive. Grin

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Reply #54 - 04/18/13 at 10:21:10

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:11:01:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

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Srinath.

What about the dead guy and his family? I didn't shoot any Texas prison Warden or Deputy. I have only been to texas once and that was to Houston for a couple of days on business in 2002 so don't try to accuse me of shooting anyone!!

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Reply #55 - 04/18/13 at 10:46:54

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:21:10:

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:11:01:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

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What about the dead guy and his family? I didn't shoot any Texas prison Warden or Deputy. I have only been to texas once and that was to Houston for a couple of days on business in 2002 so don't try to accuse me of shooting anyone!!

Yikes Dane ... In case of being shot over a parking spot or other trivial crap - I didn't say you shot someone - I was just saying dont use "Shoot the shooter before he shoots you" defence cos well armed people still got shot.

Go back and re-read that post.

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Reply #56 - 04/18/13 at 10:57:31

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:46:54:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:21:10:

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:11:01:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

Quote:

So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

Cool.
Srinath.

What about the dead guy and his family? I didn't shoot any Texas prison Warden or Deputy. I have only been to texas once and that was to Houston for a couple of days on business in 2002 so don't try to accuse me of shooting anyone!!

Yikes Dane ... In case of being shot over a parking spot or other trivial crap - I didn't say you shot someone - I was just saying dont use "Shoot the shooter before he shoots you" defence cos well armed people still got shot.

Go back and re-read that post.

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Penalizing me as if I did is the same thing, taking away my rights because of some guy in Texas is the same as pronouncing me guilty. Why should my family suffer for someone else's crime?

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Reply #57 - 04/18/13 at 11:11:16

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:11:01:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

Cool.
Srinath.

Once again you're missing the point. Lets see if I can paraphrase:

You said in your post quote here - the guy who shoots someone over a scratch/parking/dime should be in prison or dead.

My reply is - What about the guy who got killed, and his family. And you cant say he should have shot that other guy first, cos that didn't work even in the case of a well armed prison warden and deputy.

OK is that clear ?

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Reply #58 - 04/18/13 at 11:17:06

bill67 wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:22:57:

It will start happening,I went from 20 year old till 64 without a gun,Guns weren't in then,other than hunting,Now all you do is hear about guns and they will be very in for the young people growing up if we don't make some restrictions.Forget about your self and think about the future of your kids and grand kids.Any stats today aren't what they will be 1,2,5,10,years from now.

How do you explain the constant drop in gun violence?
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Reply #59 - 04/18/13 at 11:32:50

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 11:11:16:

srinath wrote on 04/18/13 at 10:11:01:

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 08:37:07:

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So trust me, there are people who will kill each other over a parking spot, a scratch, a receiver, a dime found on the road, you look @ my woman funny etc etc etc ...

Yes, and the place for those people is in the ground or in prison. I won't give up my right do defend myself and my family so these people can run free. What you conveniently ignore is that this can and does happen now with weapons other then guns. Your premise is greatly flawed because of this.

Once again focussing on the wrong thing. What about the dead guy. What about his family ... yea dont even say he should shoot the shooter before he shoots him ... cos we all know how well it worked in case of the texas prison warden and deputy etc.

Cool.
Srinath.

Once again you're missing the point. Lets see if I can paraphrase:

You said in your post quote here - the guy who shoots someone over a scratch/parking/dime should be in prison or dead.

My reply is - What about the guy who got killed, and his family. And you cant say he should have shot that other guy first, cos that didn't work even in the case of a well armed prison warden and deputy.

OK is that clear ?

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Srinath.

Yes, it is very clear and you need to explain why I should lose my constitution rights for this? What did I do that justifies being repressed because of what happened to someone else.

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