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Reply #75 - 04/19/13 at 08:58:43
 
They have been here in the USA for over ten years.. One dead, one to go...
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Reply #76 - 04/19/13 at 09:08:21
 
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No Dane when no one is armed everyone is safe ...


This is a lie, a flat out, bald faced lie. Please explain why crime is soo much higher anywhere in England than the worst place in America? And a real explanation, please, not just made up apples to oranges comparisons.

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when one bad guy is armed is when the whole equation goes belly up.


You aren't very good at math so you might want to back off these equations. But here you seem to state the obvious while hurting your position and strengthening all of ours. It is very bad for just the bad guys to have guns and is equally as good for the rest of us to be armed. You probably weren't aware you helped us out so I'm just letting you know.

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Armed people getting killed is the example I am using for "being armed doesn't protect you or your family".


You misuse it as an absolute while evidence shows many crimes prevented with guns. Sorry, your example has been shot down a while ago and is just not true.

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The $100 or other appropriate big number - maybe 20, maybe 50, maybe 200 ... will be a good hurdle to stop mass killings, you've done nothing to change that line of thinking.


Now that this idea has been demolished with logic and reason you are doubling down because you are incapable of admitting learning from your mistakes. Where is the comparison you promised? Please compare to a $100 tax on being Mormon or $100 tax to join the American Motorcyclist Association. How about a $100 to have a trial by jury or a $100 tax on search warrants servead against you? Feel free to pick any of the Ammendments so as to compare apples to apples.

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You are squealing like pig about it, makes me realize it will really work, but just inconvenience you like hell. Sorry I've already called several congress men and senators offices about it and suggested it.


Really? So, my alledged ability to mimic the sounds of farm animals (or is it a wild pig) is all the proof you need to show that your unconstitutional $100 tax per bullet idea is sound. When you called the government about your idea did you mention the flouride in the water and violent ground acquisition games such as football is in fact a crypto-fascist metaphor for nuclear war?

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The first amendment isn't evoked by the newspaper. Its individual level. Its irrelevant in the sense you have used it. Your rights are not infringed by taking your newspaper ... its the newspapers rights that have been infringed. OK OK you have paid for the thing. That is stealing - it would be violating the first commandment not the 1st amendment.


Nice dodge and deflection. Yes, the newspaper is relevant because it does no good for a reported to write a story and then be prevented from distributing it. Silly man!!

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The right to drive is in the constitution - "You've heard or "pursuit of happiness" have you ? when the whole world has to drive, there aint no pursuit without driving. That is why judges allow people to drive to work and back with the first DUI. 2 within a year or something like that ... you lose it.


This whole paragraph is just plain wrong but equally laughable.  Grin Grin Grin

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If the govt wanted to kill you ... they could do so in seconds ... they could level your state, city, block, house ... anything and that is without even thinking of the bullets they have bought recently. You will never have the kind of arms they have ... not even if you were another country. Your guns are for killing your neighbor and eating him after the govt levels your state.


I didn't think you could be any funnier then the paragraph before but you have proven me wrong (first time for everything) and soo soon too. Thank you, I really had a good laugh  Grin Grin Grin

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Same points over and over again ... sheesh. The last 6 months have been the same dumb ideas just different posters.


Are you referring to the voices in your head because day-to-day you don't seem all that different. I can tell you part of the problem is you seem to come up with solutions without ever understanding the problem. The $100 per bullet tax is a perfect example.

Another problem is you admit to a lot of different people over the past 6 months have tried to educate you and help you understand but you have refused them all. Your refusal to listen, think, discuss, open your mind, use logic, use reason and ask questions rather than just state a bunch of nonsense and then defend said nonsense to the end.


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And almost the same lies ... atleast you're not saying that abortion is hurting women cos 1/2 the babies aborted are girls.


The last thing you need to do is venture into another topic which you have no understanding of and end up having to defend more illogical arguments.
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Reply #77 - 04/19/13 at 09:09:29
 
Retread wrote on 04/19/13 at 06:11:46:
I'm waiting for it to morph into birth control....


Good Lord, NO!!
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Reply #78 - 04/19/13 at 09:10:35
 
Retread wrote on 04/19/13 at 08:58:43:
They have been here in the USA for over ten years.. One dead, one to go...


No American friends...10 years is a long time to not make any ties.
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Reply #79 - 04/19/13 at 09:52:42
 
  Anti-gun, Progun, both sides have their lies to adhere to.. One, a gun is but a tool with one purpose, to kill. Now you can argue self defense, family protection, defense of the nation, blah blah, but it is still designed to kill. Most pro-gun people like playing with them, shooting contests, most hunt for the sport, not the need for meat..

Most anti-gun people live in a fairytale world, where the police are there to protect you and your family, and think that all will be better without guns. Even though violence is becoming more and more prevelant in our society, as apathy and mental illness spread. And if society breaks down
they will ignore the crazy with a gun in their face..

  A car is not designed to kill, therefore it is not and should not be part of the debate.. I grow weary of the pro-gun people saying the government is going to take their guns, so far I have seen no evidence to support their claim. And I tire of the NRA being such a bunch of ignorant, pro gun industry zealots.. Common sense safety should take precidence!

  I grow weary of the anti-gun people claming the evil of the gun, the limit of rounds in magazines is going to stop mass killings, and the outlawing of AR's, Ak's, and other weapons will magically make it better, IT WON"T! Some of the worse killing in this nation were done with single shot rifles, airliners, bombs..

   For the rest of the nation, we live in a society that worships war, we are taught from a young age to use plastic guns, play war, video games with blood and guts, movies, we are surrounded by the good guy/bad guy, kill em all mentality.. What do people expect? As the population grows, the insane, the lack of REAL mental health treatment, and the prescription of more anti-depressants, along with easy acess to weapons, goes BOOM..... I don't see much common sense, and when it shows, it gets shot down...
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Reply #80 - 04/19/13 at 12:42:42
 
We are not a society that likes wars.I was a kid in the forties,Almost all of the movies were cowboy movies,Cowboys shooting at each other,but it never made anyone want to shoot someone.The wars we have started were to profit the rich.There isn't a country in the world thats wants wars.All countries want to be treated fair.
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Reply #81 - 04/19/13 at 12:49:42
 
How did that cop get killed in Boston he much of not been carrying a weapon.So much for carrying.You are much saver not carrying a weapon.If you shoot someone its up to the court to decided if you go to jail.Lot of people have went to jail because the courts were wrong.
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Reply #82 - 04/19/13 at 13:18:12
 
OK so now we know these 2 boston bombers also had guns.

So the whole theory of "If we restrict guns people will kill with knives, baseball bats, pressure cookers or pink thongs (man saw one guy who was killed with a pink thong, like he was strangled and it took like 36 minutes ... and you could not tell where the pink thong ended and his fat ass began ... scary) ...

OK what is the theory suggested by this data ?

I'll tell you mine.

Fundamentally the bomber wants to walk away and potentially live a long life planting more bombs. Our social media saturation has got him in under a week now ... but he hoped to do this many more times. we can hand out guns to these guys, they will only use it to shoot a cop when he's cornered. You can also restrict guns from these guys and they'd go ... OK we make bomb, gun we dont need.

The shooter wants to cause mayhem and die on the scene. Keep guns from this guy and he'd strangle people with pink thongs and then strangle himself when cornered.

Of course the true career criminal wants to just have a gun for protection and for show, and wants to make away with whatever he is after. Keep guns from this group, and they will find em ... or use knives in some situations.

There is a fundamental difference between these 3 groups.

Stopping team #2 is easy - gun control, bullet control etc. #1 dont care, #3 will get em anyway.

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Reply #83 - 04/19/13 at 14:14:09
 
bill67 wrote on 04/19/13 at 12:42:42:
We are not a society that likes wars.I was a kid in the forties,Almost all of the movies were cowboy movies,Cowboys shooting at each other,but it never made anyone want to shoot someone.The wars we have started were to profit the rich.There isn't a country in the world thats wants wars.All countries want to be treated fair.


  I said we worship war, every little town in this nation has a memorial of some sort... We have to have an enemy at all times, hell, we even made enemys of tactics (Terror), and substances (Drugs).....

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Reply #84 - 04/19/13 at 14:54:43
 
Retread wrote on 04/19/13 at 14:14:09:
bill67 wrote on 04/19/13 at 12:42:42:
We are not a society that likes wars.I was a kid in the forties,Almost all of the movies were cowboy movies,Cowboys shooting at each other,but it never made anyone want to shoot someone.The wars we have started were to profit the rich.There isn't a country in the world thats wants wars.All countries want to be treated fair.


  I said we worship war, every little town in this nation has a memorial of some sort... We have to have an enemy at all times, hell, we even made enemys of tactics (Terror), and substances (Drugs).....



I think he meant historically. We now have war on everything ... even good causes - poverty, hunger and homelessness.

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Reply #85 - 04/19/13 at 15:18:52
 
WD wrote on 04/19/13 at 08:35:18:
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Any group with a proven track record of refusing to assimilate needs to be barred entry. We have enough home grown problems, we need to stop importing those from some other part of the globe.


100% agree and how did I miss this post of yours ... in fact this was what Rush Limbaugh said in the 1 hr I listened to him back in 07. I agreed with him for once ...
The jist was this - you sneak into this country, take up jobs illegally, socialize only with your ilk, speak only your language and live here for years and years breaking the law and we are to believe you wont break any more laws ?

Yea something like "Welcome to america. Now speak english". We dont even care if you murder it. It just needs to be english.

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Reply #86 - 04/19/13 at 18:28:29
 
I think this covers it,

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...And we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

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Reply #87 - 04/19/13 at 18:34:05
 
Should have been an amendment ... too bad, now it has the same value as used toilet paper.

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Reply #88 - 04/19/13 at 21:41:22
 
The bastards killing this country speak English.
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Reply #89 - 04/19/13 at 21:55:50
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/19/13 at 21:41:22:
The bastards killing this country speak English.

They reside in Washington and Wall Street.
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