WebsterMark wrote on 05/16/13 at 05:21:26:


You'd like this to be not about Bush, because Bush did a lot worse to decades old organizations that were supporting his rivals. So - If Obama did this, its 1/10th of what Bush did.

The next point is - new 501c4 was all that was scrutinized. The 501c4 organizations were supposed to be non political. The fact that they had TEA in their name = they were political. Their scrutiny was well deserved. They also had scrutinized "patriot" and 200 others. 200 out of 300 were not TEA or patriot. They searched for political terms in a non political application in their article of incorporation. What part of that isn't clear to you. You're going to have to show they scrutinized TEA but not Obama. Else this is a republican lead witch hunt.


WebsterMark wrote on 05/16/13 at 05:23:50:



Aaaaa more incomplete reading of the news I see.
The IRS head guy (Steve Miller) that got fired was installed as an appointee in dec 2012. These 501c4 scrutiny happened in 2009, 2012, 2011. The guy that was there from 2008-2013 was a Bush appointee that finished his 5 yr term and left.
So the guy that got fired - much like You blaming Obama for the war against Iraq - was just in the wrong place when the sheite hit the fan.

Cool.
Srinath.

Well,, THis is deeper than just some appointee & a coulpa schmucks. This was widely co-ordinated AND the bubs are ass deep in it, too.

The Bubs appointed the IRS head before Obama appointed Steven Miller. Look it up. Here is a Hint - His name is Douglas Shulman.

There are 2 appointees in the IRS that are nominated by the president.
Both were installed by Bush and were in charge when the TEA and others got scrutinized.

The IRS with Bush's direction investigated NAACP and greenpeace for no reason in 2003 and 2006.

I think a republican run organization like IRS was confused and that's why they investigated the TEA baggers.

Man I am looking at my garbage man collecting the trash ... and see he looks really really dirty ... that's why You think its Obama's mess.
Bush made a royal mess. The person that's cleaning it has to get some on him.

They only investigated 100 TEA and patriot and 300 total. I'm hearing 3200 new applications were filed, and over 1000 had TEA in the name.
If that's the case - these numbers look positively like too few were pulled even as a random sample. I think its a case of the republicans letting their fellow fund raisers off the hook too easily, and the ones that were inconvenienced even a little are squealing like pigs when there is a democrat in the WH trying to pin it on someone from the other side.

Cool.
Srinath.

WebsterMark wrote on 05/16/13 at 08:18:53:


That is what they do because reality is very unkind to their dream world view. Liberals, you are gonna wanna look away...

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2158831

OH SNAP!!! Liberals groups got SPECIAL treatment while conservative goups got the shaft!!! How are you libs gonna lie your way outa this one???

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/16/13 at 12:06:07:



You probably have a point here. But I also think you're talking about the old TEA party. 06-08 when Ron Paul was that group's ideological center.
Cool.
Srinath.

srinath wrote on 05/16/13 at 15:55:01:


Shooting the messenger again, I guess we have to interpret this as your agreement with the content since you have nothing to say other that the usual about the source. Your weaksauce diversion with the Bush Appointee nonsense is disheartening, you usually have a very creative and illogical manifesto. "Bush Appointee" is all you got to use against the mountain of evidence???

I see your "Bush Appointee" and raise you one NTEU. Here's some more interesting info about the Liberal union the runs the IRS -

http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/16/the-liberal-union-behind-the-i/

Daney daney daney, you're late to this game. I have presented the points well before you thought you had a trump card. Looks like you had the worm that looks like donald trump that has just been discovered in the amazon.

In no specific order these are the points.

The IRS with Bush's direction investigated NAACP and greenpeace for no reason in 2003 and 2006.

They only investigated 100 TEA and patriot and 300 total. I'm hearing 3200 new applications were filed, and over 1000 had TEA in the name.
If that's the case - these numbers look positively like too few were pulled even as a random sample. I think its a case of the republicans letting their fellow fund raisers off the hook too easily, and the ones that were inconvenienced even a little are squealing like pigs when there is a democrat in the WH trying to pin it on someone from the other side.

The next point is - new 501c4 was all that was scrutinized. The 501c4 organizations were supposed to be non political. The fact that they had TEA in their name = they were political. Their scrutiny was well deserved. They also had scrutinized "patriot" and 200 others. 200 out of 300 were not TEA or patriot. They searched for political terms in a non political application in their article of incorporation. What part of that isn't clear to you. You're going to have to show they scrutinized TEA but not Obama. Else this is a republican lead witch hunt.

It seems to me that the IRS was merely doing their job. Teabaggers claiming tax exemption because they're a non political social welfare group?? Really? ...Besides, 25% of the groups "targeted" were bagger groups. Who were the rest and why aren't they bitching about it?

Nothing I have seen ur read shows that the Tea Party was treated worse than other political groups seeking tax exempt status, instead I am seeing what appears to be a clear example of the Tea Party actually being shown favoritism over other political groups.

There is plenty more - its in this thread. Your points are a regurgitated version of what webby has been posting.
TEA baggers are complaining. They were 40%+ of applicantions and less than 30% of scrutiny - and less than 10% total was even pulled for scrutiny. The bigger point is, 501c4 is non political. The fact they have TEA = political. They should not just have been scrutinized, they should have been outright rejected. I'd say they got off very very lightly due to Bush appointees running the place.

Cool.
Srinath.