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11/28/13 at 21:00:10

New York’s SAFE Act is a bad, bad thing. It requires people to register, sell or transfer (out of state) “assault rifles” and “high capacity” magazines. Many Empire State gun and standard capacity ammunition magazine owners have complied. Many have not. So, at some point, the State’s gonna go get ‘em. People on both sides of the law enforcement divide will die and the s will hit the fan. Meanwhile, there it is: the reason why expanded background checks, indeed all background checks and any type of registration, set the stage for confiscation. And tyranny. [ED: This notice was sent for New York City residents, based on New York City laws, not necessarily SAFE Act provisions.] [h/t DrVino]

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/begins-new-york-sendin...

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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #1 - 12/02/13 at 06:05:11 No comments? Really? None of you people who said "They won't confiscate anything" care to chime in? --Steve
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Reply #2 - 12/02/13 at 14:32:30

Paraquat wrote on 12/02/13 at 06:05:11:

No comments?
Really?
None of you people who said "They won't confiscate anything" care to chime in?

--Steve

Maybe we don't want them to know that we have anything, they are always listening in. If I did own anythiing I would never register it as that is infringment. They would kill me anyway but that just shows how evil they are.

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45acp Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 153 on a shooting range in OK. Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #3 - 12/03/13 at 06:31:40 well i guess thats just another reason i will never go to new york. well i might go there someday. seems like it will be a target rich enviroment.
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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2708 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #4 - 12/03/13 at 06:56:30 Quote: No comments? Really? Well, I didn't comment because I think the title of the thread pretty much says all that there is to say. The ONLY reason for registration of firearms is to facilitate eventual confiscation. You will of course hear all sorts of other supposed reasons, but they are all hogwash.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13895 Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #5 - 12/03/13 at 08:31:48 If I got that, I think i'd send it back with Fxxx You written on it....
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29284 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #6 - 12/03/13 at 09:15:04 So that's where my cars keep going... ... ...
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Reply #7 - 12/04/13 at 13:52:59

Yea, Rowboat,, conflate cars & guns.. How do cars, which allow us to go to work & participate in the "economy" ( such as it is) & keep the $$$ rolling in to the criminals who own the whole game, to guns which allow us to defend ourselves against criminals, both masked ( the muggers) & unmasked( the goobs) threaten the power of the goobs? Look at history. Look at the tyrants who have taken the guns. ( Mao, Hitler, Castro, etc.)Look at how they started down that road. There arent any blinders sufficiently opaque to make difficult seeing what registration is for .

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #8 - 12/10/13 at 16:29:34 So, all you gun owners, what do you think would be an appropriate punishment?? This relates to the death of Aubrey Peters. Frankly 20 years isn't enough in my opinion. If we don't hold ourselves responsible for how our guns are used, we shouldn't have them.
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old_rider Serious Thumper Offline Backyard Bill Productions Posts: 3147 flordia panhandle Gender:	Re: Registration leads to confiscation. Reply #9 - 12/10/13 at 16:40:16 Are you saying for the friend who shot her or the parents who didn't lock the guns away? The boy is to be considered an adult after 16, so should be charged as an adult. And its involuntary manslaughter as he didn't mean to kill her, just that he was obviously not schooled in gun handling very well.
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Reply #10 - 12/10/13 at 18:07:40

Trippah wrote on 12/10/13 at 16:29:34:

So, all you gun owners, what do you think would be an appropriate punishment?? This relates to the death of Aubrey Peters.

Frankly 20 years isn't enough in my opinion. If we don't hold ourselves responsible for how our guns are used, we shouldn't have them.

I will state that without any doubt,each situation MUST BE JUDGED INDIVIDUALLY! You can not cast a wide net without violating the rights of innocent citizens. At that point you cease to live in a free nation. No one person's tragedy is worth the loss of rights of everyone else! Period!!!

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Reply #11 - 12/11/13 at 09:23:56

Why do people want to punish people who Did NOT pull a trigger? Okay, I leave a knife on the kitchen counter, someone comes over to visit, gets mad, & plunges the knife in my kids heart.. Punish me for leaving it out?

People want to punish society when a guy goes wacko with a gun, lets change the rules for EVERY body,, instead of taking the bad guy & hanging him in public. THAT would help society.

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Reply #12 - 12/11/13 at 16:37:01

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/11/13 at 09:23:56:

Why do people want to punish people who Did NOT pull a trigger? Okay, I leave a knife on the kitchen counter, someone comes over to visit, gets mad, & plunges the knife in my kids heart.. Punish me for leaving it out?

People want to punish society when a guy goes wacko with a gun, lets change the rules for EVERY body,, instead of taking the bad guy & hanging him in public. THAT would help society.

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Reply #13 - 12/12/13 at 11:36:21

well I was thinking of the young fool that pointed a pistol at someone and pulled the trigger, he should get 20 years for killing an innocent friend. It will keep him out of the gene pool. As for the person who owns the pistol, a good 5-10 for not having it locked and secured unless fool 1 went around the security, unlocking the gun vault, removing the trigger guard.
Like most of you, I do not like registration of guns (because I don't really trust the government) but I hate stupid even more. I do think restricting the ownership of semi and auto weapons is reasonable as they are weapons for killing people, straight and simple. I'm not against killing people, Vietnam cured that bias, but there has to be a good reason (like they were VP with Pres Bush.) Wink

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Reply #14 - 12/12/13 at 11:40:02

The reason we don't go after the owner of a knife is that knives (usually) are used for food prep. Pistols and the like are for killing people (that is why they are made) so the owner should be more aware of what the pistol might be used for. (and yes, I know they thankfully are usually used for target practice etc - so few of us own weapons so we can go about killing other humans each and every day. Grin

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