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New Bundy thread...
04/19/14 at 11:41:56

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Govn't bad,... Bundy good...

North pointed out a statute in the Nevada state law,.. that acknowledges the rights of the US govn't and declines any claim of ownership by private persons...

... and everyone here ignored it...
Why?... the law is clear...

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...section 4, paragraph 4 of Nevada's Enabling Act application which states,
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” That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; …”.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13913 Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #1 - 04/19/14 at 12:20:32 Breaking the law and ignoring the law was the calling card of occupy Wall Street. Didn't we hear for 8 darn years that dissent was the highest form of patriotism? Can't Bundy dissent?
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Re: New Bundy thread...
Reply #2 - 04/19/14 at 12:25:37

Serowbot wrote on 04/19/14 at 11:41:56:

Okay... restart..

Govn't bad,... Bundy good...

North pointed out a statute in the Nevada state law,.. that acknowledges the rights of the US govn't and declines any claim of ownership by private persons...

... and everyone here ignored it...
Why?... the law is clear...

Huh

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...section 4, paragraph 4 of Nevada's Enabling Act application which states,
Quote:

” That the people inhabiting said territory do agree and declare that they forever disclaim all right and title to the unappropriated public lands lying within said territory, and that the same shall be and remain at the sole and entire disposition of the United States; …”.

These folks don't seem to be very impressed with the law North cited. And they are not exactly radical Ar-15 toting "teabillys".

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/57836973-90/utah-lands-lawmakers-federa...

Besides, when the current resident of the white house and his attorney general routinely ignore the law, why should Mr. Bundy be harassed for allegedly doing the same thing.

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... claim of ownership by private persons....

Besides,Bundy has never claimed to own the land, he has just claimed the right to use it per longstanding practice and agreements, that he thinks were arbitrarily altered for political reasons. As I said in one of the deleted posts - Google "prescriptive rights" if you want some background on the legal precedence that may support Bundy's claim.

The way the BLM choose to handle the matter is what got folks upset, not the legal disagreement itself.

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Reply #3 - 04/19/14 at 13:09:15

A law, repugnant to the Constitution, is no law at all,., Look it up, study it. Is it POssible the state of Arizone signed its people into slavery to the feds? I guess,, BUT, are the citizens REQuired to accept it?
How about Texas sign a piece of paper giving 80% of Texas back to Mexico without having any time for the People to have their say?
I can produce a piece of paper saying everything you own is mine, does that make it so?

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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #4 - 04/19/14 at 14:05:55 it is our DUTY as citizens to protest or disregard ANY law that is unjust.. Only the PEOPLE can invoke laws.. BRAVO to anyone who stands up for people's rights.. all govt land belongs to the people of the United States
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Reply #5 - 04/19/14 at 15:02:30

shorty wrote on 04/19/14 at 14:05:55:

it is our DUTY as citizens to protest or disregard ANY law that is unjust..
Only the PEOPLE can invoke laws.. BRAVO to anyone who stands up for people's rights.. all govt land belongs to the people of the United States

I agree...
Stand up,.. protest,.. defy and get arrested (used to good effect during the civil rights battle)...
Sue,.. fight them in court all the way to the SCOTUS...
...but, when people start pulling guns on law enforcement,... that is not legal civil disobedience, it is life threatening... and you win nothing by doing that...
You just get dead or imprisoned for life...

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13913 Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #6 - 04/19/14 at 15:10:21 Western lawmakers gather in Utah to talk federal land takeover ‘It’s time’ » Lawmakers from 9 states gather in Utah, discuss ways to take control of federal lands.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29300 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #7 - 04/19/14 at 15:44:38 WebsterMark wrote on 04/19/14 at 15:10:21: Western lawmakers gather in Utah to talk federal land takeover Behind closed doors... I wonder in who's pocket these fella's are... ...
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13913 Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #8 - 04/19/14 at 16:47:10 That's what you took from that?... Gee wiz....
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pg Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 5274 In Transit	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #9 - 04/19/14 at 18:02:07 OK, so what do you think is going to happen next? I don't foresee them saying bygones be bygones.
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 13913 Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #10 - 04/19/14 at 19:12:01 How fascinating would it be if 3 or 4 states stopped allowing certain federal agencies to have final say in their state..... Has the potential to get outta hand but no more outta hand than the Feds have gotten. It's started a little when some states said no to setting up exchanges for obamacare.
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Reply #11 - 04/20/14 at 04:58:42

Serowbot wrote on 04/19/14 at 15:02:30:

shorty wrote on 04/19/14 at 14:05:55:

it is our DUTY as citizens to protest or disregard ANY law that is unjust..
Only the PEOPLE can invoke laws.. BRAVO to anyone who stands up for people's rights.. all govt land belongs to the people of the United States

I agree...
Stand up,.. protest,.. defy and get arrested (used to good effect during the civil rights battle)...
Sue,.. fight them in court all the way to the SCOTUS...
...but, when people start pulling guns on law enforcement,... that is not legal civil disobedience, it is life threatening... and you win nothing by doing that...
You just get dead or imprisoned for life...

sorry, false.. nobody pointed guns at law enforcement.. what is your news source?

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Re: New Bundy thread...
Reply #12 - 04/20/14 at 11:44:57

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Former Arizona Sheriff Richard Mack, who was with the protesters, controversially said that they were
... "strategizing to put all the women up at the front. If they're gonna start shooting, it's going to be women that are gonna be televised all across the world getting shot by these rogue federal officers"

Gives new meaning to ladies first..

I guess Sheriff Mack is taking chivalry lessons from Al-Qaeda and the PLO... Grin

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Re: New Bundy thread...
Reply #13 - 04/20/14 at 18:36:53

“Sorry, false.. nobody pointed guns at law enforcement.. what is your news source?”

Google is your friend sir, there are many photos (proudly taken by the lawless loons) showing them behind cement barriers with their sniper weapons locked and loaded trained on law enforcement.

“A law, repugnant to the Constitution, is no law at all”

And a citizen denying the authority of the United States government, and the legitimacy of the duly elected president of the United States of America, cannot hide behind the Constitution to justify their criminality.

“How fascinating would it be if 3 or 4 states stopped allowing certain federal agencies to have final say in their state.”

This issue has been addressed time and again sir, from the war of southern treason, to the governor of Alabama standing in the door of a school shouting: Segregation Now! Segregation Forever! It doesn’t pass the smell test.

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shorty Serious Thumper Offline be careful out there gentlemen Posts: 547 southern NM Gender:	Re: New Bundy thread... Reply #14 - 04/21/14 at 04:36:19 war of southern treason?? you make a fool of yourself NC, you have zero knowledge of American history, you are a puppet for the liberal agenda
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