MnSpring
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“... How about the folks who leave their guns around so a kid gets hold of it... … just burns me every time I read of an unnecessary death due to handguns. …”
Falling down steps, off a ladder, or scaffolding, and falling out a 2nd story window. Kills Kids. Yet their is No ‘law’, stating that bottom and top of steps must have a gate, or ladders must be ‘locked up’, or windows locked. Even though, things to do that, are made, and readily available.
Sticking something in a Electrical outlet. Kills Kids. Yet their is No ‘law’, stating that unused outlets must be covered, or things that are plugged in, are not easily un plugged. Even though, things to do that, are made, and readily available.
Poison, (Toilet bowl cleaner, Drain cleaner, CLR removers, Polish, Oils, Lubes, etc),from things under the kitchen sink, bathroom sink, in the garage. Kills Kids. Yet their is No ‘law’, stating that this things must be a locked cabinet. Even though, things to do that, are made, and readily available.
Drowning, in the toilette, bath tub, or a 5 gallon bucket. Kills Kids. Yet their is No ‘law’, stating, that the seat must be down, (and locked), that bath tubs must be secured, that 5 gallon pails must be registered.
Their is No Law, or License, or Test, to, “Create Children”. Yet their are a GREAT Number of people that do,
then decide they don’t want them, so they KILL them.
Their are a Great number of people, who, LET, their kids ‘play’, in the street.
Their are a Great number of people, who, pay NO attention to their kids, when they are swimming, and the kid drowns.
Or are at the playground/park/zoo etc. or while the, ‘parent’s is shopping, (or goes to a Bar or Casino), and the kid, is lost or abducted,
or goes out in traffic, or is left in a hot car.
Could go ON and ON, and ON.
The point is: FACT, firearm fatalities, are LESS,, than Drowning, Poison, Electrocution, Falling, Hit by a car, Skateboards, Bicycles, Abandonment.
EVEN LESS injury rates than, football, basketball, baseball, etc !
Of course it is unfortunate, and a tragic event, when something like that happens.
RESPONSIBLE people. Parents, with COMMON SENSE. TEACH their children.
Responsible parents, TEACH their children, NOT, to take out the, ‘Chain Saw’, without supervision.
Responsible Parents, TEACH their children, not to take out the ’skill’ saw, without supervision.
Responsible Parents, TEACH their children, not to dive off a bridge in 2’ of water, on a, ‘dare’.
Responsible Parents, TEACH their children, (even at a very early age they ALL know where the keys to the car are), to NOT, take a, ‘joy’ ride.
Responsible Parents, TEACH their children, about firearms. (And if the Parent knows nothing about them, they have someone else, TEACH them, that they are NOT a, ’toy’, and their is NO, ‘reset’, button) !
Again, On and On, and On !!!!
"…safety course … … Do we have the same for hand guns? CaC? ... “
YES, in Minn, it absolutely part of the course of ‘carry’.
(in many other states, it is the same. As for the rest, I don’t know, but I believe it is also the case)
And Nation wide the FSTC, is now mandatory, to get a hunting License in your State. (Up to 18). And if you are getting a hunting Lic for, ‘out-of-state’, it is mandatory, and has no age limit.
(But, remember, 'Hunting is a Privilege", it is Not a Constitutional RIGHT.)
.“… we need mandatory insurance for self protection weapons like we do for autos… “
Now their is a BIG, ‘Pandoras Box’.
A REAL Big one !
Of course it will not effect, ‘any’ criminal, as they will ALL have the, proper, insurance, just like they all go to the store, fill out the 4473, and wait for the NICKS check. It will, ‘only’ affect the Law abiding citizen, who obeys the laws.
Their is ONLY ONE firearm in the house. You are gone on a business trip. Some druggie breaks down the door, in the middle of the night. Your Wife wakes up, calls 911, then goes to the closet, takes the gun out of the case, finds where the shells are, finally figures out how to load it. (Boy she sure is Lucky she had time to do all that). The drugger breaks into the bedroom, intent on RAPING her, then KILLING her. She, DEFENDS herself. When the Police finally get their. They Arrest HER, ‘for not having insurance’.
Gee, what about the person that has a collection of 100 firearms, (very specific kinds and models). (Yes Virginia, lots of those people DO Exist). He has a window broken, his wired alarm goes off, the burglar runs away, the Police come, see this extensive, elusive collection,, asks for the, ‘insurance’, he doesn’t have any, as they are a ‘exhibit’ collection, not ’self protection’, but the Police, CONFISCATE all of them. Put HIM in Jail, and charge him with a VERY Hefty FINE, and a even Higher, cost to pay the insurance. THEN has to pay a Attorney, to get his collection BACK.
OR, (and would happen the MOST), the ner-do-well, (Criminal), decides the ‘odds’ of you having a firearm, are, ‘really’ low, so they just do what ever they want to do. (Kinna like putting a sign in front of your house, “No Guns In Here”).
Which is a statement I ALWAYS, make, when talking to someone who says: “Only the Police should have a gun”. I tell them if you feel so strongly about it, let me give you a sign that says: “No Guns In Here”. And they, ‘huff’, and walk away.
The working person, in your picket, who you describe, made a mistake. That mistake, was, NOT having, a firearm, it was, ’showing’, it.
And, if a person, took him aside, and said: "Ya know, we, don't 'show' firearms, we, just have them". He would Never do that again !
One more thing. A, ’screwdriver’, is just that, and can also be called a, ’tool’. A, ’tire Iron’, is just that, and can also be called a, ’tool’. A, ’fireplace poker’, is just that, and can also be called a, ’tool’. So the same with a firearm, or gun, they are JUST that, tools,.
They are NOT, ‘Weapons’, until, AFTER, they would be, “used”, as one. The SAME, as other, ’tools’ or things.
Their are, people in a Military Branch, when talk to another in a Military Branch. May refer to a firearm as a, weapon.
Their are Police, who when talking to another policeman, may use the word weapon.
Seldom, do they, when talking to civilians, use that word.
The people that constantly use that word, ‘weapon’ to describe something, which is NOT, are.
1. A, ‘wanna-be’, who thinks it is, ‘cool’.
2. A member of the, ‘Anti-Freedom’ crowd, who want’s to convince, Everybody else, that ANYBODY, with a gun, is OUT To, shoot someone.
In the civilian world, the ONLY other person/s, that refers to a, firearm, as a weapon, are those in a COURT of LAW, who are referencing, that, ‘firearm’ as a ‘weapon’, because it was USED as such. The exact SAME, as they would, a ’Screwdriver’.
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