projectfj wrote on 03/13/15 at 08:40:08:Black probe on the negative battery terminal, red probe on the wire that screws to the top of the starter. Key turned to on. Can't hit the ignition button, not enough hands since I have to pull the clutch in too.
Ig or power is a switch/key
starter is a button
Understand about not having enough hands, but she never said that.

So you're using the red probe to check the bat voltage and the starter voltage.
and yes, starter should be 0 in both cases.
potentially you have a bad relay and a bad starter.
or you've measured wrong.
Oh, and you can have a bad decomp controller, that's another reason why you can have volts with button off.
If the starter has volts, it should be spinning. you said you tested it and it was good.
jump the battery positive lead to the starter terminal and it should turn, if you have the ig on, might start, so have it in neutral.
if the volts goes below 10v with the starter turning, it won't start. and you need to charge it or replace the battery.