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Reply #135 - 08/21/15 at 18:05:54
 
Yes! Thank You..
The most fervent believers, both scientific and religious, tend to bang the drum of their dogmas with equivalent enthusiasm; trampling the opposition where they may find them.

He left out politics and conspiracy theories.


And, reading on,,,

They were were largely dismissed, but in fact their work was replicated in over 200 world-class laboratories, and researchers have published 3,000 papers describing these replications, including many in mainstream, peer-reviewed journals.

The statement that others were unable to reproduce them is widely believed but it is false.

You can read 500 full text papers on cold fusion at our web site:

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Ohh, please be real,please be real,please be real
And economical and scalable and available to homeowners.
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Reply #136 - 08/21/15 at 19:02:09
 

Justin,

Both NASA and DARPA did their own verifications and started their own quiet low level programs 25 years ago --- during the same period of time that the major media in lock step denied that the whole thing was real.  

Then to put an explanation point or two after the SHUT UP ABOUT IT  somebody put a bullet through the head of the main media guy who said it was real, just look at the data please type guy.    Shot him dead at the end of his parents driveway while he was doing a mommy care visit -- he was in his bathrobe picking up the paper.

Everybody shut up about it then, for 20 solid years they shut up.

You have high school science teachers and college lab instructors doing the Pons Fleishman experiment by the thousands every year now.   Some of them have gotten right good at it.

Both the guys are dead now, as is the driveway dude ..... to stifle progress and make sure enough fast breeder reactors got built so we could have LOTS of nuclear submarines and ballistic missiles.

Yes, I know --- cynical old fart.   Yep, guilty.   We needed MAD to protect the country, and that too was/is true.

Nixon also killed the Thorium Reactor project during the same time frame for the same reason.

Now, because of the ever growing pollution problem we need both of these things back, ASAP.

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Reply #137 - 08/21/15 at 19:31:43
 
Once someone has the weapons to destroy the world five times, it starts getting kinda ridiculous..But
They kept TELLING us
They can blow the world up seven times,
We NEEEEED MOOOOORE,,,  and They got rich..

And, in 73 or  74 WE sold Russia grain, because they,
Our mortal enemies
Were hungry And broke.
We LOANED them the money, put the U.S. taxpayers on the hook if they defaulted..
And got no weapons concessions.

Let me help your cynicism grow.
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Reply #138 - 08/21/15 at 23:00:35
 

http://pesn.com/2015/01/22/9602592_LENR-Digest/

This site gives you a cross comparison to the maturity level of the various LENR efforts that we know about (the top secret ones are still secret, of course).


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Reply #139 - 08/22/15 at 05:18:17
 
Rossi seems to want just that... that's his primary focus,
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Reply #140 - 08/25/15 at 10:12:16
 
ROSSI HAS BEEN GRANTED A UNITED STATES PATENT !!!!

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/25/andrea-rossi-granted-e-cat-patent-by-us-...

Furthermore, the patent spells out the correct mixture percentages (since after today you will have to pay royalties if you use those mix ratios).

“Variations in the ratio of reactants and catalyst tend to govern reaction rate, and are not critical. However, it has been found that a suitable mixture would include a starting mixture of 50% nickel, 20% lithium, and 30% LAH [lithium aluminum hydride]. Within this mixture, nickel acts as a catalyst for the reaction, and is not itself a reagent. While nickel is particularly useful because of its relative abundance, its function can also be carried out by other elements in column 10 of the periodic table, such as platinum or palladium.”
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Reply #141 - 08/25/15 at 11:54:00
 
1st off the block will be a home heating module.
with a plug in for water heating,
then a module for electricity using a peltier chip,
next module will be for cooling.
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Reply #142 - 08/25/15 at 19:48:50
 
 
http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/26/critical-e-cat-patent-discloses-full-fue...

full text of the patent follows:

https://animpossibleinvention.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/us9115913b1.pdf


"In the patent, the composition of Rossi’s fuel and a starting ratio is revealed. It is stated to be 50% nickel, 20% lithium, and 30% lithium aluminum hydride. All of these fuels are in the powdered form, and the exact ratios are said not to be critical. However, different ratios govern the reaction rate. For the first time ever, we have been provided with a listing of ingredients and percentages. Combined with what we already know, this means that a combination of carbonyl nickel of a few micrometers in diameter (although other forms and particle sizes of nickel may also work), lithium aluminum hydride, and lithium can come together to produce a massive amount of energy if properly stimulated with heat and a varying electromagnetic field.

Another important detail revealed in the patent is that the nickel powder must be pre-heated to convert trapped water into supercritical steam, explode, and increase the porosity of the nickel. The concept of enhancing the porosity of the nickel is mentioned multiple times. Perhaps the enhanced surface area and tubercules of carbonyl nickel provide a good starting powder that is improved by pre-heating. It should also be noted that the most successful replicator of this technology, Alexander Parkhomov, who has successfully produced excess heat in at least a dozen different tests, recently revealed to the Martin Fleischman Memorial Project that he pre-heats his nickel to 200C to remove any water content. From my knowledge, very few replicators have been “cooking” their nickel in this fashion – or at all. Maybe this could be a step that will ensure more successful replications."


Things should begin moving quicker now -- the rat race to first room heater is on !!!!
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Reply #143 - 08/26/15 at 06:51:16
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/26/the-significance-of-rossis-granted-paten...

"Rossi has planted the flag, it is a Granted Patent, a done deal, a root patent where every other case has to take place from that point. An inescapable start point.

This will be a patent war at least as long term and varied as that which characterized the Wright Brothers and Curtis or Edison and Westinghouse or Apple and Erickson. It is going to be about which companies have the most ammunition in terms of multiple patents and the deepest pockets to pay for the lawyers and how long competitors can afford to sit stuck in the courts behind court orders preventing them from selling or developing, paying endless court fines for infringement, while Rossi continues to develop and sell or whether they just have to give up and license from Rossi because it is cheaper.

Rossi’s first patent is part of a Patent Strategy and a textbook example of how to do it in terms of gaming the appeals process."


What this refers to is the 64 separate patents that Industrial Heat and Cherokee have helped Rossi prepare that lock down the feedback control systems and monitoring systems and other systems associated with the new LENR nickel based systems.   This mass of patent material is all pending at this time, but will explain in DETAIL exactly how Rossi does it.

Please also note that the root patent also locks down all of the column 10 elements in the periodic table as they all are part of the root patent that has been granted to Rossi.

Some now theorize that the last 6 months with Rossi hiding in the containers was a ruse to lull all the competition into taking a break while the patents were quietly rolling forward to completion.

So, here comes all the fun stuff with Brillouin vs Rossi vs you name them in the heating industry world wide as LENR does work and pretty soon it will become known throughout the media channels and financial channels as well.

No one can compete going out into the future using the old polluting energy sources ..... it all has to change now.

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Reply #144 - 08/27/15 at 17:49:27
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/27/industrial-heat-files-new-international-...

Rossi has worked with a engineer that works for industrial heat and together they have put together a complete and comprehensive patent package that totally tells how to do a Rossi reactor. This ties down all relevant details and refers back to the granted for Rossi patent that was just approved. There is no wiggle room --- if you wish to do this you owe the man royalties.

Businesses may now feel safe to pay those royalties and go ahead and develop products. They have patent protection if they work within the umbrella of Rossi's patents. They may patent their own applications where they do things that are in in addition to and subsequent to Rossi's work and they can patent all their controls and everything else associated with their industry.

There will now be a frantic race to the first room heater, the first household water heater, the first large commercial building heating plant and the first car.

Industrial Heat has already done patent work on boilers and large capacity building heating systems that are based on steam and hot water.

Look to see the Chinese Team suddenly make great strides in their work, and to patent what they rip off in China under the Chinese system.   Or else to reveal they have a deal with Industrial Heat already and are building Rossi patent protected fully licensed systems .....

The Russians are still a wild card as they look to Parkhomov who literally did his own thing in a lot of aspects .....

It will be fun watching all this stuff VERY RAPIDLY develop.
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Reply #145 - 08/27/15 at 17:51:48
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/08/27/industrial-heat-files-new-international-...

Rossi has worked with a engineer that works for Industrial Heat and together they have put together a complete and comprehensive patent package that totally tells how to do a Rossi reactor. This ties down all relevant details and refers back to the granted Rossi patent that was just approved. There is no wiggle room --- if you wish to do this E-CAT stuff you owe the man royalties.

Businesses may now feel safe to pay those royalties and go ahead and develop products. They have patent protection if they work within the umbrella of Rossi's patents. They may patent their own applications where they do things that are in in addition to and subsequent to Rossi's work and they can patent all their controls and everything else associated with their industry.

There will now be a frantic race to the first room heater, the first house furnace, the first water heater, the first large commercial building heating plant and the first car, etc. etc.

First one there gets 7 years of good luck ....

......   of course the corollary counts too  ......


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Reply #146 - 08/29/15 at 10:52:23
 

Rossi's very first item might be a single cell with a control center, so various companies can order it for their R&D departments to get their thinking started.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-h-bailey/post_10010_b_8052326.html

Huffington Post gets first blood credit for the first SERIOUS international news coverage of the Rossi patents.    Of course they did their own version of F9, in case it turns out to be a scam.

But they did list all the reasons they think it is for real which is a considerable list now.

I find it ironic that the "failed" Pons and Fleishman replications are STILL being given out by the press as the reason nobody believes LENR is real.  These were done at universities that now have fully funded LENR Studies Departments and who routinely do the P&F replication in their labs as teaching tools each semester.  Soon each of these will have a Rossi Cell experiment where the college kids will build and ignite a Rossi hot cat cell that they built with their own hands.

If you put the somewhat dangerous to accidentally inhale 50% nickel, 20% lithium, and 30% lithium aluminum hydride mix inside a sealed nickel foil container then such a pre-made "fuel pellet" could be safely sold for science fair uses.  I am sure the Raspberry Pi crew would build up a control kit for it as part of their normal activities (supporting science fairs and such educational stuff) as Adrenos and Pi's are being used for this duty by some of the real replicators right now and the software they built is open sourced at this time.

The MFMP rig is certainly food for future science fairs since it includes load balancing and thermal balancing that are right on up to the full scientific discipline level.    And it looks cheap to build, too.    MFMP is also currently trying to automate the data collection on a run, so it could run unattended until it stopped, for whatever reason.

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Reply #147 - 09/03/15 at 06:38:22
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/09/03/new-patent-application-for-plasma-electr...

New Patent Application for Plasma Electrolyisis using LENR (Parkhomov one Inventor)


Once again, yet another way to skin the LENR 'cat.    I count 6 different ways to get there now with Rossi's E-Cat only being counted as one way (one way, three versions).

This will get interesting, when they get into real produced items, as to which one actually works best for that given use.
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Reply #148 - 09/03/15 at 06:58:26
 
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Reply #149 - 09/03/15 at 08:10:01
 
Reminds me of Elio Motors...
Nearly there,.. nearly there,... nearly there... nearly there...
Vaporware... Huh...
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