YouTube never produces sound well, I didn't really appreciate the difference a Dyna muffler makes on a Savage till I heard one in person

Ok, so I just finished reading this entire thread and....wow. I learned several things.
1) Most of the folks on this forum are incredibly helpful, for no other reason than they love the Savage and want others to get the most out of their bikes. The way some of you treated the young man who started this thread was, in my humble opinion, not particularly nice or welcoming.
I have been involved in specific subject forums for years and the very first rule is..." if you dont have anything nice/informative/helpful to say...then dont say anything". If you are tired of answering the same question over and over, then dont! Let someone else field it.

2) I felt (as someone else mentioned) that the Versy adjuster was being HEAVILY pushed as the only real option to the chain problem. I must admit that it kinda turned me off as well. I am bright enough to understand what it does and why it is a great idea, but when you tell me "buy this gizmo or you are just plain stupid" (which is how it came across to me), then you are going to get an adverse reaction.

3) I am pretty bummed out that I seem to have purchased a bike that has more issues than an old Harley. If I had known that it was recommended that I crack the engine open after just 5,000 miles (or even once a year??) due to the cam chain adjuster issue, I might have bought the Honda VLX or the Vulcan 600. I'm at least grateful that these problems are easily fixed on the Savage.

I'm a Savage owner and I am here to stay. I'm smart enough to follow the wisdom of those who came before me. I can tell you however, that this thread bummed me out and makes me a bit nervous about posting here. Maybe it is just best to use this forum as an extended user/repair/upgrade manual rather than a "community forum".

Boogie_with_Stu wrote on 06/02/15 at 11:44:49:


1) stu this is a community and we like to promote a helpful attitude rather than a snarky one.  and none of us are immune from a bad attitude once in a while.  but being here for the length of time that I've had, you develop a callus thick enough to deflect even the sharpest of barbs.  so you as a member all fresh and new need to make us aware when we are overstepping the bounds with a wounded remark.

2) I've seen this in the past and I'm careful not to push my solution in general.  In this case the attitude was denial for one reason or another and until there was a commitment to look into it everyone laid into him.  whether you buy a verslavy, make yourself a slavy, or buy a new chain as needed makes no difference to me.  but we do want you to check it, otherwise you'll be a member we never hear from again.

Serowbot wrote on 05/15/15 at 07:46:17:


I did get my panties in a bunch there for a minute...  ...
...but, it was in part meant to be funny... ...

Sorry if nobody got that...

rtebbs8996 wrote on 06/16/15 at 17:15:38:


Nope.....if the bike is running correctly it will not pop as you approach redline.

Read all the posts... sounds like you have run the gauntlet of things and replies.

Sounds like you have taken it all in stride (good on you)... without being there in person sometimes it can be frustrating as a reader/listener figuring out what exactly someone is explaining, different minds interpret differently even though the words are black and white to the writer.

If you have done all the internals and it is running semi-great and you are looking to fine tune....and you have someone who knows carbs and fuel/air flow (there are tons of folks on this site) a walk through would again be needed.

First, now this is my first reply on your post... I watched your video....
Have you ever reached the end of acceleration? where the throttle would NOT twist any further?
In every post you made, you never ONCE said that, it was always "I could have", never I could NOT twist it any further. I realize you are a young rider, but to post (will not go past 60ish mph) and you have yet to twist the throttle to the stop...well.. then you really don't know if it will do 90mph.

Second, you have a cone filter, and i'm guessing you do not know what jets your carb has to compensate for all the air going into the fuel/air ratio (which could be limiting your speed).

Third, please spend some time in the "Tech section" of this forum, if you understand all the tech stuff read away or let your dad read about the carb stuff.
It is all fine and dandy to ask a question, but the reader needs to know ALL the information to make an educated guess (hypothesis) as to how to help you in the best way.

Fourth, I apologize if I am coming off gruffly, old guys are kinda set in their ways and get all antsy when their minds can't rap around what you are trying to get across, and we have ADHD when we can't get our points across, just ask pop, he will tell you... or go buy your experiences with him LOL... my pops would get short with me on occasion.

Hope this has shed a little light on what you need to do.... Lancer or Versy could probably explain the carb jets, or possibly Dave, a lot of folks have done carb mods and changed jets.

But please... read up a bit in the Tech Section so maybe you can understand what you want to ask, if you can be a little more "specific", it would help a lot, and not knowing about engines or how they work can be a real pain for you and those trying to help.

P.S. (edited) If you do not feel safe twisting the throttle all the way in fourth gear, get someone who will and let them tell what is happening with the bike. Don't do it if you don't feel safe, its not smart to ride beyond your feelings...trust me on that.