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Reply #45 - 05/13/15 at 15:52:25

No tapping, just the sound of valves doing their job. I guess its fine for now. New air filter and raptor petcock this weekend should make it run heaps better. I've had it at 62 with android speedo. At that speed it jerked a bit so I slowed down. Felt like it was sort if starving for fuel. Raptor should eliminate this. Air filter as well, as I don't think its been replaced at all. But as for the cam, seems fine no tapping on case or nothing.

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Reply #46 - 05/13/15 at 16:53:09

You can probably wait until the next oil change to check the cam adjuster...
...but,...
Don't come crying to us if it goes before that...
They don't necessarily give any audible or performance warning...
The plunger will just fall out of the cylinder, and ricochet around the side case until it either gets wedged somewhere or shoots out of the engine...
Without a modified (pinned) adjuster from Verslagen, these items are time bombs...
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...and at 19k miles, yours is set to blow... Huh

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #47 - 05/13/15 at 17:04:03 Thank You for posting that. I posted something kinda like that and deleted it. I didn't wanna come across as pushy, but, I couldn't even start it unless I knew that the tensioner is okay. At 19,000 miles? Unless the PO told me that the chain was replaced and the miles on it when they did it, my heart would be in my throat.
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rtebbs8996 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 77 Rowley massachusetts	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #48 - 05/13/15 at 17:23:15 I feel like everybody is trying to sell everybody the verslavy...
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 29276 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #49 - 05/13/15 at 18:03:22 rtebbs8996 wrote on 05/13/15 at 17:23:15: I feel like everybody is trying to sell everybody the verslavy... Then, feel free to ignore the advice...
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rtebbs8996 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 77 Rowley massachusetts	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #50 - 05/13/15 at 18:14:39 Its not that I'm ignoring it, I'll check next oil change. I'm just saying it all SOUNDS healthy, and from what I've gathered its only a worry if you suspect something is wrong with the tensioner ie a rattling or tapping.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #51 - 05/13/15 at 18:24:42 Well, CRAP! There goes my commission on That sale.
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Re: Savage only tops out at 60
Reply #52 - 05/13/15 at 18:31:41

rtebbs8996 wrote on 05/13/15 at 18:14:39:

Its not that I'm ignoring it, I'll check next oil change. I'm just saying it all SOUNDS healthy, and from what I've gathered its only a worry if you suspect something is wrong with the tensioner ie a rattling or tapping.

Some rattle and tap for a bit.....and if the plunger comes out of the housing the rattle stops rather abruptly.

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rtebbs8996 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 77 Rowley massachusetts	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #53 - 05/13/15 at 18:50:21 I don't have $175 to spend on something I might not need. Not everyone who owns a savage has had to replace it past 20k. It's a hot or a miss. Guys on YouTube show theirs with more mikes and they run fine
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Reply #54 - 05/13/15 at 23:48:27

Gotta chime in here. These guys REALLY know what they're talking about. I have yet to get a versy myself but it is definitely high up on my priority list and I'm only a little over 5000 miles on a 2003. I raise 2 kids alone so it's hard for me to throw any money around. The way our bikes are made the versy isn't something you "might not need" it is something that is a must on our bikes if you want to push any kind of life out of her. If you just want to keep her for a few months to a year than sale her off for parts or send her to the metal graveyard, then sure you might not need it. Other than that I wouldn't look at as something extra and unnecessary for the bike. I would look at it as part of the overall cost of the bike because you'll need it sooner rather than later. Let's just hope the 2 of us are able to swing that investment before that fuse blows on the grenade suzuki stuck in our crankcase. Best of luck to ya man

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Reply #55 - 05/14/15 at 01:16:41

I well understand your position about the affordability of the Versy. It would, however, do no harm to check the thing according to the instructions in various posts. If you found that the tensioner was well stretched you could at least stop using the bike until you could afford the replacement tensioner, thus saving you potential angst. If you wish to carry on riding perhaps consider lightly trafficked roads.

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gizzo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiCabbage. It's Savage. Posts: 1318 Australia	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #56 - 05/14/15 at 01:37:11 My Savage has 32000 km when I bought it. That's 19800 miles. I rode it for about 500km then pulled the side cover off. It had 2mm of plunger left before it sprung out. I'd be looking at it....and make your own one until you have the coin for a Versy tensioner.
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rtebbs8996 Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 77 Rowley massachusetts	Re: Savage only tops out at 60 Reply #57 - 05/14/15 at 03:31:01 Finding out today if it's been replaced or fixed before. Having my dad ask the previous owners The fuel mixture screw had already been screwed out so its possible some engine work has been done
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Re: Savage only tops out at 60
Reply #58 - 05/14/15 at 07:43:43

rtebbs8996 wrote on 05/13/15 at 18:50:21:

I don't have $175 to spend on something I might not need. Not everyone who owns a savage has had to replace it past 20k. It's a hot or a miss. Guys on YouTube show theirs with more mikes and they run fine

Send yours before it gets damaged to get upgraded for $75.

Or replace your chain for $110 every 20K miles.
Or replace your engine for $900 whenever it blows up.
You know the choice is yours.

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Re: Savage only tops out at 60
Reply #59 - 05/14/15 at 13:29:21

Okay, I can't take it anymore. You don't have to get the Verslavy. You will have to do a cam chain mod. (Or as Vers said, replace either the chain or engine) Verslagen1 does a really good job of this mod but you can make one yourself with a piece of flat bar, a drill, and a welder.

The thing that everyone on here wants you to do is check! I checked mine at least half a dozen times before I made my mod. It's not nearly as pretty as Verslagen1's work but it's gotten me over 50,000 klicks.

If you don't have a welder, flatbar, and a drill... $75 is a heck of a deal for the long term.

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