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Reply #15 - 07/20/15 at 16:49:58
 
I saw that a long time ago. Don't worry, your bag is in the mail.
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Reply #16 - 07/31/15 at 11:10:17
 
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Merideth says he went and got his 12 gauge shotgun and took matters into his own hands.

“They had it low enough that he hit it,” Diebold said.

http://www.wave3.com/story/29660127/man-charged-with-shooting-down-drone


Merideth explained: "I didn't shoot across the road, I didn't shoot across my neighbor's fences, I shot directly into the air."

He says that shortly after the shooting, he received a visit from four men who claimed to be responsible for the drone, who explained that Merideth owed $1,800.

Merideth says he stood his ground: "I had my 40mm Glock on me and they started toward me and I told them, 'If you cross my sidewalk, there's gonna be another shooting.'"

http://www.cnet.com/news/man-shoots-down-drone-hovering-over-house/


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Reply #17 - 07/31/15 at 11:45:01
 
They owe him the price of the shell and compensation for his time cleaning the gun. Someone peeking over the fence where someone is? Don't you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in your own back yard?
Too bad he didn't have a way to throw a net over it. I'm guessing it was just recording and not transmitting to them in real time or they woulda seen dad coming. Or, IDK, eighteen hundred, four guys, maybe they were able to see what the camera saw, and they were so busy looking at the girl they hovered around,,  think about it. How long does it take to see a problem, decide it IS a problem, go in the house, grab a gun and get back out?
I'd be interested to know how long it was there before she saw it, how long before she said something, ,,, ?
So many questions,,
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Reply #18 - 07/31/15 at 16:33:20
 
Shooting down a Drone.

What works?  A Drone, ‘copter, is Very useful for some things,
and greatly appreciated. (In some cases)

I Know a fellow, Long before, ‘drones’ were popular,
flew a small Cam Recorder, attached to a RC Plane, then,
Flew over receptions, weddings, and other outdoor group gatherings.
He would then, take that, recording, edit it, CD it.  
(He was ASKED to do so)
So the people had a moving/visual, record of that event.
The advent of, ‘Drones’, makes his job so much easier.

Now their is the, ‘drone’, that, “PEEPS”.

It is NOT, the, ‘Drone’, that is doing wrong,
it is the, ‘PERSON’, doing something with the ‘Drone’!

(Gee, is that not like Firearms?)

I am at a public place, and a ‘Drone’ flies over, recording that, group of people.
Have very little concern.

A ‘Drone’ flys over, (at my REQUEST)
to record a, event on my property.  Not a problem.

But Now, I am in the Back Yard, doing something,
or (in the case sited), Daughters are in the pool.
And a, ‘Drone’, HOVERS.   NOW, their is a problem !

The person, (in the case cited), probably violated the law,
which in 99.9% of ‘Cities’, says:  ’No Discharge of Firearms in City Limits …”
(Unless his lawyer proves in court, that he thought his/or Daughters,
Life was in danger,
because it is, Now, PROVEN, ‘Drones’, CAN carry, Firearms and Bombs.)

I Live in the Country, (same place for 35 years),
Now and then, on a Sun morning, I get up, turn on the Coffee pot,
than if it is nice out, I go Outside, and eliminate excess fluid.
(Out my back door, I can See NO ONE, NO HOUSE, NO Roads, Nothing)
One time many, many years ago, while I was dong that,
I suddenly heard a,  “WHOOOOOOOSE”, I looked up,
a ‘Hot Air Balloon’, was overhead about 50+ feet.
1 guy, 3 women.   The Guy, (guessing he was the Pilot)
had one hand in the air, (Probably running the controls)
The other hand he put up in a, ‘What’ gesture.
The three Ladies were giggling.  I Waved. (with one hand)
Not a problem.

Today, If it was a Drone, I would simply go into the house,
grab the Shotgun, and SHOOT it Down !

The H.A. Balloon,  goes where the wind takes it.
And guessing, the pilot would have never applied more hot air,
had I not been their, because the balloon, would have very slowly descended,
so it could silently glide over a very large swamp, about 200 feet, down from where I was.

Yet, a, ‘Drone’ can go wherever, the ‘Pilot’ want’s it to.

It’s time to Put away the P.C. CRAP,
and apply some very, Basic, COMMEN Sense.


I never had one,  but If I lived in a area, (City), where one could not discharge firearms,
(Check, many places include, air guns, BB guns, & Archery)
The, ’Super Soaker’ water toy, how far can they send a stream of water?
Or a Garden hose, with a certain nozzle, how far will they send a stream of water?
Those things May, be effective, at disabling, a, ‘PEEP’, ‘Drone’.
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Reply #19 - 07/31/15 at 16:54:24
 
Let’s go, “one Step Further”.

“Drones’, are relatively new.
It is the, PEOPLE, running the ‘Drone’, that need to be regulated.
(Are they, ‘PEEPING”?    
Or, recording something at invitation ?)

Just like Very Early 1900’s.

Everyone, had a Horse and Carriage, is it just how one got around.

Now this, New Finagled thing came along, called the:
‘Horseless Carriage”.  (Later the, ‘Auto- mo-vechiel”)

Let’s say, a person/s, with a, ‘Horseless Carriage”, robbed a bank.
the Police, in their, Horse and Buggy, could Not keep up,
and they got away!

Question:
Do you punish, everybody that has a , ‘Horseless Carriage”.
Or do you punish the, ‘PERSON”, that robed the bank ?
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Reply #20 - 07/31/15 at 19:09:24
 
their, there, they're,
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Reply #21 - 08/01/15 at 03:13:09
 
This deescalated into a shouting contest on Facebook...

One guy there actually used Facebook as the argument that there is no more privacy.
I control what I put on Facebook. If I were involved in shady doin's I would not release that information on Facebook. If someone decides to fly a drone over my property and spy on me doing shady things, that's a violation of my privacy. And it doesn't even have to be shady things. I could want to shop for sex toys or hemorrhoid cream... anything.

At a wedding, fine. You're focused on the wedding.

If you worked for a real estate company and went door to door saying you'd be flying a drone to take birds-eye views of a property you're selling. Say something like "all photographs are subject to review at your discretion to make sure I'm not violating your privacy", I would just shrug it off as fine (because I'm an idiot and still believe in honesty).

There is a guy who had a drone at my local park. I was walking my dog and he was doing circles in an unused baseball field. I'm even okay with that. There's a long corn field in the middle of Farmington where people have flown RC planes and helicopters for years.

I can understand that drones have practical use. I support practical use. I support recreational use. I just don't know HOW to draw the line.


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Reply #22 - 08/08/15 at 08:18:53
 
When used as a peeping device, it's certainly not legal.  You own the airspace up to either 4 or 500 feet depending on which regs you look at. No aircraft is allowed to fly in that airspace unless it's a landing approach to an airport or emergency without owner's permission.  There is no right of look through or free passage in private airspace.

Since remote controlled craft are limited to 400 ft. altitude, they need the permission of the property owner in order to fly over.  Now, we all know nobody using one is going to get it. They don't care. Certainly, if they are spying or peeping, they aren't going to get permission.

If it's there without permission, it's an act of criminal trespass.  You are entitled, by supreme court decision (I wish I had written down which one) to use any amount of force necessary to end the attack on your property. You are also entitled to the forfeiture of any property used in furthering the trespass. Just remember getting a court to actually enforce the law is a whole other problem altogether. "This poor guy flying his new drone got it shot down by this a**hole.  He had no idea he was doing anything wrong. He was just having fun flying it around."

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse but will be used to get him a slap on the wrist and told don't do that anymore while the person attacked is left charged with several "crimes" for exercising his rights under the law to protect himself and his property.

In our new society, the wrong-doer has all the rights and sympathy.  The poor person defending himself and his property is the criminal.
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Reply #23 - 08/09/15 at 15:00:24
 
Steve H wrote on 08/08/15 at 08:18:53:
When used as a peeping device, it's certainly not legal.  You own the airspace up to either 4 or 500 feet depending on which regs you look at. No aircraft is allowed to fly in that airspace unless it's a landing approach to an airport or emergency without owner's permission.  There is no right of look through or free passage in private airspace.

Since remote controlled craft are limited to 400 ft. altitude, they need the permission of the property owner in order to fly over.  Now, we all know nobody using one is going to get it. They don't care. Certainly, if they are spying or peeping, they aren't going to get permission.

If it's there without permission, it's an act of criminal trespass.  You are entitled, by supreme court decision (I wish I had written down which one) to use any amount of force necessary to end the attack on your property. You are also entitled to the forfeiture of any property used in furthering the trespass. Just remember getting a court to actually enforce the law is a whole other problem altogether. "This poor guy flying his new drone got it shot down by this a**hole.  He had no idea he was doing anything wrong. He was just having fun flying it around."

Ignorance of the law is not an excuse but will be used to get him a slap on the wrist and told don't do that anymore while the person attacked is left charged with several "crimes" for exercising his rights under the law to protect himself and his property.

In our new society, the wrong-doer has all the rights and sympathy.  The poor person defending himself and his property is the criminal.


A-Yep,  110% + Right.

The answer?   Do  NOT, 'bow' to the Perps.
Do NOT, believe the lies, a 'ultra-liberal' court. or LEO may say.

STAND UP.  Defend your, 'RIGHTS',
With the FACTS !
 
I Live in the country. A, 'Drone', just flies over,
I am thinking, 'a neighbor', just got a new 'toy'.

It stops, and hovers !
It's SHOTGUN time !

Common Sense People,  Common Sense !





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Reply #24 - 09/11/15 at 06:14:18
 
Drug delivery drone crashes in Mexico



A drone carrying illegal drugs has crashed near a US border crossing in Mexico.

The quadcopter carrying 3kg (6.6lb) of methamphetamine was found in pieces in a supermarket car park near San Ysidro.

Mexican police said the drone had probably crashed because the drugs onboard had been too heavy for it.

They added that drones were increasingly being used to ferry illicit items across the border with the US.
Home-grown drones

In a statement, the Tijuana police said the drugs had been divided into six packets crudely taped to the body of the drone.

After receiving an anonymous call about the crashed craft, Tijuana police recovered the drone and are now examining it to see if they can trace who set it flying and where it began its journey.

The statement said the drone was a prototype that could be given GPS co-ordinates and would then travel to that location autonomously. No pilot was needed to guide it.

The Tijuana police said drones were just one of the many innovative ways drug-smugglers were using to ferry illicit substances across the border. Other methods included catapults, tunnels and ultra-light aircraft.

Last year, the US Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) said drones were becoming so popular as a method of drug transport that some gangs were manufacturing their own.

Engineers were hired to make the devices for the drug cartels so they could carry more weight than those that were commercially available, it said.

The drones were making more than 150 trips a year, suggested figures from the DEA.

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Reply #25 - 09/11/15 at 18:17:28
 
e statement said the drone was a prototype that could be given GPS co-ordinates and would then travel to that location autonomously. No pilot was needed to guide it.

Wow, that's pretty snazzy... I can envision a camera and transmitter and pilot looking at a monitor,, but point it down a runway and let it go?
I can't begin to grasp the technology..
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Reply #28 - 09/14/15 at 10:20:35
 
Facial recognition, robot killer, ?
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ISIS' frightening arsenal: Remote-controlled sniper rifles, steel plated suicide trucks

KIRKUK, Iraq –  Captured ISIS weapons show the black-clad militants are developing an arsenal of sophisticated arms, and Kurdish fighters told FoxNews.com they fear the terrorist force's expanding manufacturing capability is making it more formidable by the day.

In a dusty outpost near the Kurdish-held northern city of Kirkuk, a Peshmerga commander recently displayed two weapons that show his enemy's increasing adaptability on the battlefield. One was a scoped sniper rifle, customized and mounted on a welded steel platform and built to track targets by computer and fire by remote control. The other was a much different type of weapon - a truck reinforced with two-inch thick steel plates to ensure its load of explosives could crash through checkpoints and make it to its target before detonating.

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"They are using high-tech (weaponry), and have the know-how from all over the world."

- Peshmerga Maj. Gen. Sirwan Barzani


"They have more weapons than us, they have mines, C4, sniper rifles, humvees and tanks," said Peshmerga Commander Kemal Kerkuki.

In Anbar Province, where ISIS is fighting the U.S.-equipped Iraqi army, the terrorists are using weapons taken from their vanquished foes. But on the northern front where the Peshmerga clash daily with ISIS, the militant fighters have powerful equipment either modified or built within the so-called caliphate known as Islamic State.

Kerkuki revealed the captured weaponry along with bullet riddled black flags and photographs of other ISIS munitions captured during a successful Peshmerga operation against ISIS just weeks ago. The gun was operated attached to a computer by four long cables that controlled barrel elevation, gun rotation, the trigger and the camera. An operator could place the weapon at an elevated vantage point, and then hide out of sight while controlling the weapon via the computer screen like a lethal video game.

Kerkuki said it was not clear who built the weapon or where it came from. Controls and labels on the wires were written in English, but the deadly innovation of the device led some to suspect it was built by Chechen fighters, who have poured in to join ISIS.

"[ISIS] has all types of weapons, heavy machine guns, tanks," said Peshmerga Maj. Gen. Sirwan Barzani. "They are using high-tech (weaponry), and have the know-how from all over the world."

The truck, which looked like something driven off the set of an apocalyptic zombie movie, featured an armored turret on top with space for heavy machine guns. But its cargo left no need for speculation about its true purpose. Packed with hundreds of containers of C4, it was the ultimate suicide vehicle, impervious to small arms and built by ISIS mere miles from the Kurdish lines. The Kurds deemed the bomb-laden truck so dangerous they requested and got an American air strike to destroy it.

Kurdish military sources said the improvised weapons show ISIS is adapting from its use of conventional weapons easily spotted from air and vulnerable to coalition sorties. Peshmerga commanders say that, while coalition air superiority has changed the dynamic of the war, they need weapon for troops on the ground to combat ISIS. To a man, they complain that the central government in Baghdad, which has always eyed the semi-autonomous Kurds suspiciously, is slow to send supplies needed for the fight they share.

Advanced weapons in the hands of Kurds, they say, would negate any need for U.S. boots on the ground. As ingenious and frightening as ISIS arsenal in northern Iraq may be, the Kurds say, vehicles such as the suicide truck would be no match for advanced weapons such as the American or European surface-to-surface missile systems.

But the Peshmerga, whose name translates to "Ones who confront death," will fight ISIS with whatever they have on hand.

"Their weapons are strong, but our goals are bigger than theirs," Kerkuki said. "ISIS has no future in Kurdistan."

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/06/02/isis-frightening-arsenal-remote-contr...


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