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Re: Microsoft Windows 10 (the ongoing saga)
Reply #165 - 11/05/15 at 05:12:08
 
old_rider wrote on 11/04/15 at 21:35:59:
Want a cheap ebook setup?  well, remember that RCA Pro 10.1 I got and still have? (It is running great by the way, and I use it every time I go out to appointments or will be away from the house for awhile)

Walmart has them for $69.99 right now, except its the RCA Pro II 10.1 which runs 5.0 lollipop in place of 4.4 kit kat. (android)

I ordered one up for the wife and will get it next week, and I will do an unboxing (I will need to set it up for her accounts) video and put it up on you tube, and will link it here.

Its her Christmas present, i'm not sure I will be able to hide it though, LOL Cheesy

http://www.walmart.com/ip/44185467?productRedirect=true





I've watched Old_Rider use this and he gets it done -- right smartly.

Its big enough to read and it connects anywhere a wifi only tablet will connect.




Remember, the Orient is already lousy with these things, and Google is coming out with a windowing version of Android starting next year.   The $69 price is a mark down from the $99 they normally sell at Walmart all the time..

MS isn't happy with this development -- they can't price support enough stuff to even try to put a dent in it.

Organic Android --- its like Kudzu, it covers everything ......
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Reply #166 - 11/05/15 at 05:21:08
 

http://liliputing.com/2015/11/huawei-kirin-950-chip-shoots-for-high-performan...

"Chinese company Huawei is starting to make a name for itself in the US thanks to its partnership with Google on the Nexus 6P smartphone. But the company doesn’t just make phones. It’s also been producing its own processors for a few years, and the latest will likely be used in the upcoming Huawei Mate 8.

It’s called the Kirin 950, and it’s an octa-core chip with four 2.3 GHz ARM Cortex-A72 cores, four 1.8 GHz ARM Cortex-A53 cores, and Mali-T880MP4 graphics.

What does that mean? It’s fast. Very fast.



But Huawei says its chip is also energy efficient. It’s built using TSMC’s 16nm FinFet process, which is the same one used for Apple’s A9 processor.

The chip also has a low-power, always-on co-processor for sensors including the barometer, gyroscope, accelerometer, and other motion sensors. Huawei says this new i5 co-processors uses just 6.5 mA, while the company’s previous i3 version used 90 mA.

All told, Huawei figures its new chip offers about a 40 percent performance boost while also reducing power consumption by 60 percent, which should lead to longer battery life in mobile devices."



This is a laptop capable chipset, BTW .......  that can do a phone or a tablet as well

So, now we got Chinese phone builders becoming chipset designers, just like Google predicted.   ARM Holdings stock price is going down slowly, BTW, as before long these guys will go their own way instead of just modifying ARM designs -- ARM Holdings is also trying to branch out into other things right now too.  

The 10nm wall is acting to make ARM's final effort at silicone based wafers a sort of stopping point for ARM as well.  

ARM is working with the Apple and IBM and the IBM chipmaker consortium on the 7nm non-silicone prototype and it will be interesting to see what 7nm non-silicone processor looks like.   Equipment to make the things is being made right now, so it isn't but a year or so away.

The Cortex A-72 core does seem to be a real hit with everybody right now, and they are all building octa cores (or more) out of them.   This Huawei beast is actually a 9 core chipset since it has an IoT core in it too for always on duty.

I have a phone that runs on four of the LEAST of these A-53 cores that are being used now-a-days, and it ain't a dog by any means.   My Moto G still seems a snappy little beast to me.

I think next year we will see laptops and Chromebooks running this generation of new A72 chipsets in our local phone stores as well as even more powerful tablets and phones.   And once I've played with one a bit, I'll want that level of speed just like most other folks will do.


Addendum:     The IoT core that is being used in the Huawei Kirin 900 is an Intel IoT core -- wow, Intel actually made something folks want to use of their own free will no less .......
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Reply #167 - 11/05/15 at 06:05:07
 

Having lost their place in the Asus Zenphone (their only large production mobile product) Intel reacts weakly, trying to fix what ails them.

http://liliputing.com/2015/11/intels-new-cherry-trail-chips-are-a-little-fast...

Intel’s new Cherry Trail chips are (a little) faster


"Intel is making a small update to its low-power Atom chip lineup. The new Intel Atom x5-Z8350, Atom x5-Z8550, and x7-Z8750 will replace the current Cherry Trail lineup soon.

So what’s new? Not a whole lot… but the new chips should be a little faster and a little more reliable.



The updated processors have the same base clock speeds, but support higher CPU burst frequencies. They also fix some problems with alpha blending and ATSC graphics.

Intel will be phasing out its current Cherry trail chips to make room for the new models, but here’s an overview of the existing chips and the new ones that will replace them:

x5-Z8300: 1.44 GHz chip with 1.84 GHz burst and Intel HD 400 graphics
x5-Z8350: 1.44 GHz chip with 1.92 GHz burst and Intel HD 400 graphics
x5-Z8500: 1.44 GHz chip with 2.24 GHz burst and Intel HD 400 graphics
x5-Z8550: 1.44 GHz chip with 2.4 GHz burst and Intel HD 400 graphics
x7-Z8700: 1.6 GHz chip with 2.4 GHz burst and Intel HD 405 graphics
x7-Z8750: 1.6 GHz chip with 2.56 GHz burst and Intel HD 405 graphics

All of processors are quad-core chips."


Let's go to the very last, most powerful chipset and I'll translate the Intel speak for you.

Our best mobile chip with our best graphics starts out stone cold at 2.56 ghz but within 10-20 seconds it gets slightly warm and slows down to 1.6 ghz, same as before.   Since it is only a 4 core processor, it can't switch the work load over to cooler cores like the octa and peta ARM boys can, so once it has slowed down it stays slowed down since mobile products can't have the big huge heat sinks our 14nm chipsets really like.   And we think we fixed the alpha blending bug in our in-house graphics, finally.

Still, it is an improvement on the Intel baseline  ......   if Intel pays folks enough to use it, that is.

It is sad that some other commentators are now saying that the fix on the alpha blending issue is the only real change done to the chip, and that the spec change, such that it is, is only 100% sinky brown vapor and the chipset is actually unchanged except for the bug fix and the new part number.  

Since there are no products out there using the thing, it becomes a moot point I guess.
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Reply #168 - 11/05/15 at 20:06:04
 

Why you cannot be recommended to buy a MS based Cloudbook now at all ......   and why you have to immediately stop Win 10 from syncing to your One Drive storage RIGHT NOW before they start hitting your charge card for $1.99 or greater every month for your "excess storage".    

It is estimated that MS will stuff enough of their nightly download data on your hard drive and automatically sync it to their One Drive to exceed 5 gig limit automatically fairly quickly, then MS will start billing your charge card for the excess measured in 5 gig lump sums.   And it won't take them very long to get there.

http://www.geek.com/microsoft/microsoft-breaks-unlimited-onedrive-storage-pro...

"It’s not just the unlimited plan that’s being killed. Microsoft is also getting rid of the 15GB photo sync bonus that users have been getting for turning on automatic uploads to OneDrive on their smartphones.

And at a time when cloud storage just keeps getting cheaper, Microsoft is also ditching their 100GB and 200GB plans. Paid OneDrive plans will max out at 50GB, which will cost $1.99 a month. Sure, two bucks a month is cheap, but that’s half the storage Google gives you for that price.

The silliness doesn’t stop there, either. Microsoft is also going to roll back all free OneDrive accounts to just 5GB of storage. That’s right. If you were given bonus storage at some point — like I was for being around since the beginning — you’re going to be knocked back from whatever you have to 5GB.

If you’re over that amount, you may want to start moving some files — but don’t worry, Microsoft will be sending you nagging emails as the rollback date approaches. It’s going to happen “early in 2016.”

Are they going to piss off some people? Absolutely, and I’ll probably be one of them. Ultimately, though, Microsoft probably isn’t too worried about users like me who were happy limiting their use to their free OneDrive storage.

They’ll be happy to sit back and watch people’s OneDrive storage fill up with automatically synced content from Windows 8.1 and Windows 10. Eventually, their free storage will fill up and some will convert to paid subscribers… at which point it’s mission accomplished for Microsoft."
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Reply #169 - 11/05/15 at 20:20:01
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 11/04/15 at 12:20:43:

Art,

You have an atypical set up with no router and no home LAN and nothing except a AT&T skate board with its single connector jack.   Chromebooks, although desirable to you are not consistent with your connection/environment.

Some of what you struggle with is the atypical nature of your set up, which isn't going to change without you moving and getting a internet company instead of a phone company as your provider.   Right now you lack choices in the matter, as you only get it one way (the phone company way).    They can hook you up, but count on it costing you beau coup dinero when they do it.

Something for you to check into is a WIFI or mobile "HOT SPOT" which is a small box you can get from your provider to give you a WIFI hot spot in your house.

The price for such varies, with T-Mobile being dirt cheap, Sprint less cheap and AT&T being down right rapish last time I looked.



Oldfeller, my phone IS a wifi hotspot, do I choose to use it as such, the mobile hotspots from AT&T use the same network, and yes, AT&T is rapish on their wireless hotspots
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Reply #170 - 11/05/15 at 20:27:28
 

Art, I loaded some free software on to my ancient XP laptop that I keep at work so it could be a wireless hot spot to support my wifi loving Republic phone.

Then I used an Apha style long distance WIFI antenna to snatch up a far away open wifi signal to fuel my laptop's wifi hotspot.

It is all old stuff that I had lying around, intelligently used to give me free phone service and movie streaming, etc. etc.

And I can call and text anybody anywhere in the world, for as much as I want, for free.   And stream movies and stuff too.

Gets slow sometimes though, as the open signal I am accessing isn't really very fast stuff ---  Wifi G data rate at best.   When it falls back to the B rates, my streaming gets all cobby on me.
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Reply #171 - 11/05/15 at 20:44:28
 
that's what'll happen if I use up my high speed on the phone, the service drops from 4GLTE to 2G and then it won't work a PC I don't think
I get unlimited data, but my hi speed is rationed
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Reply #172 - 11/06/15 at 05:29:03
 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/10/10/pc-sales-drop-in-q3-2015/

I alluded to this several times, but the third quarter figures are in -- Win 10 resulted in the same standard drop in PC sales figures that has gone on for years now -- no reversal of the decline of the PC has been seen so far.

"Windows 10 may have breathed new life into your PC, but it didn't do anything to juice PC sales this summer. Both Gartner and IDC estimate that computer sales dropped several points year-over-year (between 7.7 and 10.8 percent) in the third quarter, right when the new Windows arrived. That's one of the steeper drops in recent memory, in fact. Not that it comes as a complete surprise. As the analyst firms explain, Microsoft's fast-tracked release left many PC makers shipping existing systems with Windows 10, which weren't going to drive demand as much as brand new models. You're not going to buy a months-old laptop just because it's running new software, are you? The big question is whether or not the wave of new Windows 10 PCs launching this fall will make a difference -- if there's still a sharp decline, the industry is really in trouble."
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Reply #173 - 11/06/15 at 05:33:15
 

http://www.engadget.com/2015/11/05/pc-support-discourages-using-windows-10/

PC makers' tech support asks customers to avoid Windows 10



So Dell and HP are both telling folks to roll back to Win 7 to fix their issues, huh?    These are two of your MAJOR partners, MS, who don't think your new software is worth having right now ......

"You may have upgraded to Windows 10 as soon as humanly possible, but don't tell that to your PC manufacturer. As part of its tech support research, Laptop has learned that at least Dell and HP are discouraging customers from updating to Windows 10, or even recommending that people roll back to older versions.  When asked, both companies defend the practice. They're committed to Windows 10, but their ultimate goal on a support line is to fix your PC... even if that means reverting to old software.

This kind of policy isn't strictly new. As anyone who's worked tech support will tell you, vendors usually teach reps to support a narrow range of software for a reason. It's hard to guarantee that a years-old PC will run a version of Windows it was never designed to use. However, this policy is at odds with Microsoft's attempt to push as many Windows 10 upgrades as possible, including for Windows 7 users. The two sides are effectively fighting each other -- one camp wants a wave of early adopters, while the other wants to discourage those eager beavers whenever possible. Unless PC makers go the extra mile to support Windows 10, Microsoft could end up with a lot of confused customers."


It's not that confusing, you loaded Win 10 and it broke your machine.    GO BACK ASAP to Win 7 and stay there.   Wait until the Redstones both roll out next year and then do your upgrade.    Maybe Win 10 will have achieved stability by that point ......

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Reply #174 - 11/06/15 at 09:37:42
 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/npd-chromebooks-outsell-windows-laptops/

Sales figures on low end Windows laptops are being actively withheld by MS and by its partners, on MS orders.   This means you have to wait a quarter to a half a year to get a belated total roll up by Gartner or one of the other tracking companies -- which isn't timely, but it is what MS wants for you to have.



Third quarter just ending saw another decline in PC overall (between 7.7 and 10.8 percent) in the third quarter alone.   Add that to what is in the graphs above and you get a pretty sad picture for MS newest OS.    Apple has taken losses too, so far with Apple being the largest contributor to Chromebook's market share growth.

"Both Gartner and IDC estimate that computer sales dropped several points year-over-year (between 7.7 and 10.8 percent) in the third quarter, right when the new Windows arrived."    see article two items up -- this drop is not specific or directly related to the Chromebook area of sales though as those numbers are a tightly held MS secret right now.   But it ain't good, whatever it is ......  during this period there were weeks when Chromebooks outsold PCs in total.

Now we will see what happens over the Christmas season.    What will sell well, and what will not.  

You may get reports of Christmas sales but only if they are good for MS, or you may get more complete stony silence out of MS and all its vendor chain if the Christmas news isn't all exuberant for MS and its boys.

Wink     ..... and when the new windowing multi-user Android laptops hit these charts, what will happen then?   Where will the phone/PCs get counted when they roll out?
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Reply #175 - 11/07/15 at 14:19:54
 

http://www.howtogeek.com/228551/how-to-stop-windows-7-or-8-from-downloading-w...



You have heard Win 7 people talking about MS stuffing Win 10 down their throats and then starting to charge them money for One Drive 5 gigabyte drive space overages that they never asked for or agreed to use.

And you have heard the tales about Skype numbers not being free (or not even close to cheap any more) and tales of MS installing the Skype product on your Win 7 machine automatically without asking you.

And for using your machine as a zombie droid to torrent all their nightly update stuff out to all the millions of people who are getting it all up the antenna chute right now along with the overage charges from their internet provider for blowing up their data caps.

AND FOR INVALIDATING YOUR WIN 7 LICENSE CODE WHEN THEY STUFF WIN 10 ON YOUR MACHINE SO YOUR WIN 7 INSTALLATION DISK BECOMES USELESS TO YOU.

Microsoft needs to be told NO and folks are using the GWX Control Panel software to do that.   This stuff blocks Win 10 now, but later on permits you to go on to Win 10 later on, when it is worthwhile for you to do so.   You will have to download Win 10 and put it on a DVD, then use your Win 7 keycode to initialize it -- but you can wait until there is a good stable Win 10 to do that.

Go look at GWX Control Panel, check its reviews and consider using it to keep MS at bay until you chose to convert.

By using it you can STOP MS until such time you choose to go over to Win 10 (once Win 10 is feature complete and much more stable than it is now).

Use the software NOW, before you get converted "accidentally" by MS and lose all control of your machine and all your backup options.

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/          GWX Control Panel (formerly GWX Stopper)
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Reply #176 - 11/07/15 at 17:50:42
 

And yes, I am joining the growing group of people who do not find it amusing to have an endless ongoing conflict with their computer's OS system.    There are alternatives out there that do not consume your inner peace on a weekly basis.

Since I just wanted to game a few non-Steam titles and Win 7 does that just fine without bothering me or screwing with my wallet, then Win 7 it is ..... forever.

And, most emphatically, if I need to reload my Win 7 off my DVD using my keycode, I want that DVD to work.

I have turned my updates to "I will approve only what I want" and I only approve the updates to the anti-virus stuff now.

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Reply #177 - 11/07/15 at 20:42:44
 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-veteran-joe-belfiore-takes-a-y...

Microsoft Windows veteran Joe Belfiore takes a year leave-of-absence

Joe Belfiore, one of Microsoft's key lieutenants on Windows, is taking a year's break. What gives?


By Mary Jo Foley for All About Microsoft | October 21, 2015 -- 14:37 GMT (07:37 PDT) | Topic: Windows 10

Mrs. Microsoft herself is signaling to the world that something is up in Microsoft land .....  the talking head guy with the flippy hair who promised us all this neat stuff with Win 10 that never actually happened is leaving the scene for a one year furlough.  

Meanwhile, MS is starting to monetize Win 10 in somewhat crude fashions before they even finish writing the durn thing.

"Contacts are asking me if there's more to Belfiore's decision to take a break than meets the eye. I've heard some wondering whether Belfiore's absence offers clues about Microsoft's long-term commitment (or lack thereof) to Windows Phones.

All I can say is with Microsoft's own executives talking up the company's growing interest in Android, even if it's just a "Plan B" at this point, it does give some of us Windows Phone faithful pause....

I've asked Microsoft who will be replacing Belfiore while he's gone. No word back so far."


Mary Jo Foley is rarely off base on MS stuff, and if she senses a sea change going on at MS then by golly the wind has shifted and is blowing from a different quarter now.

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Belfiore himself says:  "As for me and my job... when the 1 year trip is over, I'll be right back at it! I'm proud to have spent the last 25 years working for a thoughtful and considerate company here at Microsoft. It's a company and community whose values align with mine and whose management has been completely supportive of me and my family in pursuing this idea. I'm taking an extended personal leave-of-absence starting in November: we're gonna visit family and show the kids the great cities of the northeast US before we leave on the ship. I'll be back at MS in my same job working on Windows next summer, in time for the kids to get back into the normal US school routine.

"We're thrilled to share our exciting news with all of you! At some point, we'll figure out a blog or facebook page or... something. But for now... wish us luck and send us your ideas on what to see!"

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Reply #178 - 11/07/15 at 20:58:04
 

http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/feature/2421044/windows-10-mobile-release-date-pric...

The Windows Phone platform struggles to find the same success as its Android and iOS rivals.



Mary Jo says "look to the Win 10 phones" and sure enough, there are some metaphorical cracks developing in the mobile Windows touch screen glass as we are going forward into the actual release week, which has now been pushed back to mid December now. This is a move that in essence precludes any holiday sales at all for any brand new production Win 10 phones.

Supported devices

'Microsoft announced at the 2015 Mobile World Congress in March that devices currently running Windows Phone 8.1 will be upgradeable to Windows 10 Mobile by the end of this year.

However, the company has only confirmed a limited list of Microsoft/Nokia Windows Phones due to upgrade to Windows 10 Mobile once it launches: the Lumia 430, 435, 532, 535, 540, 640, 640 XL, 735, 830 and 930.

This excludes the Lumia 520, 530, 625, 630, 635, 925, 1020, 1320 and 1520, all of which are still being sold on Microsoft's website. That isn't to say these devices will never be upgradeable to Windows 10 Mobile."
  Duh, dude, when you exclude them from the beta it tends to say that, you know.

Is this a Win 10 mobile Christmas flop in the making ?????    

September release move to Oct, then to Nov and now to mid December ...... do I hear a January, a February, a March coming up next ????

Just how screwed up is Win 10 phone, anyway?
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Reply #179 - 11/08/15 at 02:27:47
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 11/07/15 at 17:50:42:


Since I just wanted to game a few non-Steam titles and Win 7 does that just fine without bothering me or screwing with my wallet, then Win 7 it is ..... forever.



I am not much of a gamer, but my wife has a Steam account.  Out of curiosity, I went and looked at the catalog for games.
Windows: 6,903
SteamOS + Linux: 1,606
Mac: 2,540

Simply an observation of the state of it now.  
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