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Question: Terror or not?

It's ISIS  
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its ISIS inspired  
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Its another group with another agenda  
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It's some pissed off people that can really fight  
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It's something else entirely  
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Don't know  
  1 (9%)
not sure/ too soon/ but have a hunch  
  4 (36.3%)
This poll is the dumbest thing I have ever seen  
  2 (18.1%)




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Reply #15 - 12/02/15 at 21:36:08
 
Careful JOG,... your sarcasm may reveal truth.
It appears to be an ISIS/daesh cell,... but, we all know, it could easily have been some random nut,... or some disgruntled  "Postal" freak, or a militia type, or some guy that never got a puppy... etc...
Whoever it is,.. this time or the next... they will have an easier time here, than anywhere...

We may not even have time to settle before the next one...
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Reply #16 - 12/02/15 at 21:41:45
 
Some more of JOG's satire, I presume?
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Reply #17 - 12/02/15 at 21:42:51
 
Ohhh no! You got ol' Serobot started  Grin

JOG, you should have known better Roll Eyes
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Reply #18 - 12/02/15 at 21:45:50
 
Serowbot wrote on 12/02/15 at 21:36:08:
Careful JOG,... your sarcasm may reveal truth.
It appears to be an ISIS/daesh cell,... but, we all know, it could easily have been some random nut,... or some disgruntled  "Postal" freak, or a militia type, or some guy that never got a puppy... etc...
Whoever it is,.. this time or the next... they will have an easier time here, than anywhere...

We may not even have time to settle before the next one...


Really, 'Bot, you're crackin' me up Grin Grin

You'll have to excuse me for my sometimes wild sense of humor
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Reply #19 - 12/02/15 at 21:50:10
 
I'm sure we're all grateful that I did get a puppy... Wink...



Allow me, for MPesc's sake, to send my empty, vacuous, condolences into the ether... where no one  affected will read them...
If,.. by chance, anyone here, actually has more connection to this incident,...
I am genuinely sorry, and wish you strength...

These things are getting to be like some grotesque reality show.
The more frequently they come,.. the more hardened and distant we become,... ....the more they become, a sick, macabre, form of infotainment, and distanced from reality...

It sickens me a little, that it so rivets me to the latest news... Embarrassed...
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Reply #20 - 12/02/15 at 22:20:59
 
Honorable thing to do, 'Bot. Even if it may not help the victims directly, it's still a good gesture.
At least we're listening (or watching, to be precise), so its not all in vain. Somebody knows about your good gesture.
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Reply #21 - 12/02/15 at 22:57:11
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/02/15 at 21:23:05:
Well, I'm not sure what caused it, nothing, But understanding the Problem is Not as important as preventing the possibility of it occurring again. Since guns were involved, we Must BAN Guns.
It's just that simple.



 Obama said something like that also as the event was un folding Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - 12/03/15 at 03:37:56
 
Are we getting a sniff at what also comes with freedom of society?

I had an glimpse of what the future might hold when I saw how we reacted after 911.

The only question that really remains is, how much of your freedom are you ready to surrender?

Could another armed person, a good guy, been a hero?

The possibility exists, that is fact......

Do we want an old west mentality?

Do we sanction or temporarily deputize folks to help with this threat.....?

Again, war took a different tack on 911, ignoring it is an option, but not if you are the president of a country......  
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Reply #23 - 12/03/15 at 05:59:44
 
The shooting is my fault. That's how it's going to turn out. My prediction is the shooters will be portrayed as gentle people just trying to make a living in the great America but evil conservatives constantly talking about the dangers of Islamic fundamentalism and terrorism drove them to commit these crimes.  just a couple of fun loving kids trying to raise a baby but were tortured to the point where they literally had no choice but to use evil guns and respond the only way they knew how.
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Reply #24 - 12/03/15 at 06:57:32
 
Wow Web, even as a sarcastic remark that comment is way out but I get your point. It's a spin that will be used.
 What I still can understand is where does the anger come from that drives these shooters. How did it become socially acceptable to shoot someone over differences.
 It is almost like there is a poison in the food or enviroment that is causing our brains to short out and fall into extream anger.
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Reply #25 - 12/03/15 at 07:31:57
 
I think there is a seduction aspect for the disenfranchised...
A social scientist on TV last night, pointed out the "tactical uniforms"...
... saying, they are almost as important to the perp's as the weapons....
As if they are actors, starring in their own little action show.

These outfits serve little or no practical purpose, and certainly don't help them look inconspicuous...
Useless, impotent, people searching for their 15 minutes... Huh...
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Reply #26 - 12/03/15 at 07:34:57
 
 on one hand, I think it's always been like this. the differences today is there are so many more people in the world and certainly so many more guns. 1% of 300 million is a lot bigger problem than 1% of 100 million. That's obvious.

while all of that is true, there's no way to get around the fact that Islam likely played a role in this.  I don't think it really matters at if this is tied directly back to an organized Islamic terrorist group or not. this whole theory of lone wolves  is ridiculous. Lone wolves act alone  in name only.

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Reply #27 - 12/03/15 at 07:47:09
 
JOG seems to have a handle on the "logic" inside the Washington D.C. beltway...   Any time there is a shooting, blame guns.   That might work in those cases involving a single shooter, but starts to get a bit questionable when multiple shooters are involved....     As I noted previously. Too well organized to be a spur of the moment decision..  BUT, since the boss politico stated that the country was safe from terrorist attack, Embarrassed they circle the wagons and point at that old bogie man of the politically correct, "GUNS".  Lips Sealed    
One of these days I'll figure out why it affects "National Security" when ever something in government is pointed out as corrupt, incompetent , or unlawful ?   Undecided
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Reply #28 - 12/03/15 at 08:17:50
 
I'm very curious about the female perp. Reports so far indicate she is the guys wife, and that he met her on some online site, went to Saudi Arabia and married her and brought her to the US. I wonder how much she influenced him rather than vice versa.

They also left behind a six month old child. That strikes me as very strange unless they somehow actually believed they were going to somehow survive this, or at least not get caught, as improbable as that might be. It takes very twisted individuals to deliberately orphan their own offspring I think.

I suspect there is a he** of a lot more known about these people than what the authorities are revealing right now. I am also cynical enough to suspect that a lot of information that doesn't conform to whatever the official narrative is determined to be, may never be released. There are people in high places right now, on every side of this issue,  meeting, and deciding how best to spin this to favor their point of view and their agenda. It isn't possible to hide everything, but some stuff will never see the light of day.

All the usual actors will make whatever hay they can out of this for the next few days or weeks and then move on.
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Reply #29 - 12/03/15 at 08:17:54
 
Switzerland doesn't have an army it is an army, every adult male is armed
never heard of a mass shooting from there
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