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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Android vs Windows 10 Reply #240 - 06/29/16 at 05:13:20 If that is why I'm still not quite getting it.. 7 doesn't have the same advertising access?
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #242 - 06/30/16 at 00:41:08

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 06/29/16 at 04:55:26:

Microsoft has to have untold millions of people each chipping in 6.3 cents per ad click on each of the multiple ads they cram into each page of their OS system.

Both Google and MS are paid for by ad dollars, Google is just more subtle and gracious about it. Google isn't as greedy, either.

Well technically you yourself are not paying the 6.3 cents per ad.... but you are helping them make money by just opening a page with an ad on it. That is how free services make their money, Yahoo has TONS of ads running on its home screen.
When you click on a news story from yahoo, there are also ads on the National and Local news sites.
Advertisement companies pay the URL owners cents per "ad shown", meaning when you open said page, the ad is "shown"
If you want to have an internet address (open your own site), you could set up how ever many advertisements you want, and actually by the end of the year end up with extra cash even after you pay for the use of the address.
John has two ads on this page.... every time one of use opens a different page and the ad pops up... he gets paid. Helps offset the cost of running the site.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #243 - 06/30/16 at 01:17:33

Now, we are getting into the short strokes and my wife wants to know why I don't put free Win 10 on all my machines.

I am going to live another 20 years or so, generally speaking. All my adult life has been spent taking care of and fixing MS based computers. I have tracked through them professionally as a Quality Engineer since the DOS 3.0 era and the IBM 8088 machines. I have had to buy software and hardware ongoing to FIX the issues created (and allowed to continue unchanged) by MS over all of those years.

Linux Mint Mate simply doesn't have most of those issues. Only Windows does because MS is in it for the money and they make more money off of you having to pay vendors for fix it stuff, who in turn have to pay MS very healthy certification fees, etc for them to provide the fix it stuff to you.

Example, my wife's little Dymo label printer does not work on Win 10. Why? It was Certified only for Win 7 & 8.1 and drivers were created to that stable certified environment. AND MS WONT MAKE A Win 10 DRIVER FOR IT .... MS provides no small vendor driver support for Win 10 as part of the walled garden unless they ARE PAID ongoing to do so.

And DYMO and many other third party driver makers are honest, "until Win 10 becomes more stable and mature no driver we make will run for long, the software keeps changing monthly to make the total complete driver development task undoable." If MS is paid ongoing to do it, they have to re-re-redo it to keep up with the changing Win 10 environment.

I pay out very little for machines now, and I pay practically nothing for software. I RESENT being told I have to run out and buy another label printer just to make MS a tiny bit richer.

Here is my solution .........

https://community.linuxmint.com/software/view/printer-driver-dymo

Now, if the Linux boys and girls can support Dymo printers of all descriptions so simply and easily, then the only reason MS Win 10 and Dymo won't do it is so they can pick your pocket periodically for the cost of a new label maker.

And the MS world has done this sort of trash to you SO many times over the past decades -- just think back a bit to all the hardware you have replaced over the years because a new MS OS version choked on it or outright broke it at the upgrade point.

Linux doesn't do that.

NOTE: Linux took 20 seconds to download and configure and install the Linux Dymo drivers, it did not even require a reboot.

Issues with all the Linux softwares that will all now print to the label maker --- durn that is one small landscape page, ain't it? Tough to get your page all set up correctly.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #244 - 07/01/16 at 02:23:58

A large Dymo Value Added Reseller has listed an Beta level "software and driver set" that will work on the old Dymo turbo 400 model for Win 10, apparently an official re-write software effort of some kind is in motion as the VAR is listing some software that is not very finished or complete as yet.

It does not even use or translate the old stored label format for all the labels that you have already built, but requires you to re-enter all the data again to be stored in a brand new format. There is no import function that works for the old .lwl format Dymo label data at all.

However, it is good enough to bump my wife past her current problems.

I simply note that the Linux solution requires the same re-entry of all data and about the same amount of new systems learning as the Beta Win 10 software requires.

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....... Windows "fixes" at their finest ....... and this old boy is finished with the wife's Dymo conversion at this point in time.

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12686 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Android vs Windows 10 Reply #246 - 07/01/16 at 03:03:13 Good luck with that, when you put in Win 10 you put in all the Win 10 drivers and your old vendor created/supported drivers are gone forever (unless you got you a full system backup to plunk back down on the formatted blank hard drive that is).
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #247 - 07/01/16 at 08:08:20

I still have all my original discs for win 7 that came with my laptop....but when you reload them it goes automatically to the update site, which tells MS that you previously had win 10 and it then downloads the win10 drivers.
Of course I was one of the beta guys testing it (and it ran soooo well during testing) so I won't EVER be able to go back. Angry

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #248 - 07/01/16 at 10:17:33

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/230342-report-claims-intel-cpus-contain-...

Report claims Intel CPUs contain enormous security flaw

For the last ten years, Intel has built remote management technology into various motherboards and processors. The Intel Active Management Technology (AMT) system provides system administrators with a method of remotely controlling and securing PCs that functions independently of the operating system, hard drive, or boot state. It’s even capable of running when the system is off, provided the computer is still connected to line power and a network card. AMT doesn’t depend on the x86 processor directly — instead, it’s implemented through a 32-bit Argonaut RISC Core (ARC) CPU that’s integrated into all Intel processors. This microcontroller is part of the Intel Management Engine and is implemented on all Intel CPUs with vPro technology.

A new article on BoingBoing argues that Intel’s implementation of the IME and the microcontroller that runs it are fundamentally insecure, cannot be trusted, and could be used to perform potentially devastating exploits. Intel has publicly revealed very little about the precise function of its onboard microprocessor and the security system that guards it — and that, in turn, means that the company is essentially relying on security through obscurity to secure its own standard.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #250 - 07/01/16 at 16:56:42

Let's be honest, most of you will click on the Win 10 update button fairly soon ....... the very thought of not having MS around actually bothers you some, somewhere in the back of your mind.

(MS has worked hard for years, indoctrinating you to get you to feel this way)

I used to go over to the wife's Win machine, back up all her work files and compact the hard drive first, then virus check it all carefully with two virus checkers and then compact it again just so I felt like I was keeping up with my required housekeeping chores.

I didn't have to do squat with the Linux machine, and I felt sorta left out. No viruses, no compacting, no registry error removal, no root kits, no worms, no excitement ......

I was feeling all under-utilized in Linux.

Then the wife's old machine blew up in a major sort of fashion, required some major recovery work, lost a chunk of her data and after 2 days of heavy futzing I got all reality checked on the whole thing --- Linux just works better, sticks around better and is a lot faster running to boot.

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Reply #251 - 07/01/16 at 20:13:52

Over the years I have been a big fan of windows defender software.

After a short stint with MacAfee's and Nortons (both massive memory hogs), I gave up all security software and concentrated on making my modem and router control most of my security stuff.

Of course logging onto a "suspicious" site would always be a trying experience but I NEVER had an issue.

This past week while doing my normal daily yahoo news peeking, I hit one of those "greyed" in ad sponsor ones because the ads on the side kept reloading the page and I wasn't paying real close attention to where exactly the mouse pointer was when I clicked.

Immediately after closing the page I went to, Defender lit up and told me it was removing a suspicious file. I don't know what was on the page as I closed it as soon as it opened when I realized my mistake.

Today while setting up a new security camera I "had" to download Java yet again. (D-Cam View has to use it)
After about 10 minutes of regular web searching Adobe attempted to download and override the "video" emulator....
LOL Defender deleted it before it took over!

Funny stuff happening with this new update of win10.. guess i'll have to report it to the dev's....

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #252 - 07/02/16 at 03:39:25

I told you last week that Win 10 took a pass at getting on my gaming partition. I had to shut the machine down to stop it.

Now, it has error coded and once it competed all its internal checks it has decided my copy of Win 7 is "not authentic".

In the past, this was a can't get over issue, since MS has a database with my machine now ticked as a pirate copy of their software. I lost two previous machines this way (had to go buy a new issue of MS and format the machine to get it to take the new software).

This is MS's BS at its finest -- just jerking people around to shake a little more money out of them.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #253 - 07/02/16 at 04:42:41

Recovery was a mixed bag, I got my authorized copy of Win 7 back but I also got back "Free Win 10" in the process.

OK, the future of Windows does not include Win 7 and I plan to live long enough to eventually have to buy a copy of Win 10 for my gaming partition once all the support items for Win 7 starts to "break accidentally" in a couple of years.

I feel that cold needle sliding in behind my eyeball, I do.

I accidentally touched the button with the mouse and Win 10's upload started again, and this time I am not going to stop the machine to stop it.

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12686 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Android vs Windows 10 Reply #254 - 07/02/16 at 05:22:03 The very first thing broken, even before the installation was even completed, was Google Chrome browser. I am posting from the wife's machine right now as after over an hour of working on it my Win 10 installation is only 85% complete. What did you expect from Microchoke ???? Fairness ????
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