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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #255 - 07/02/16 at 06:21:49
 

I got stuck at 91% on the Win 10 install, this turns out is a "known issue" that is due to 3rd party anti-virus being used.

De-installed all non-MS antivirus items and the clock then ticked up to 93%, very very slowly.



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While I was deleting broken stuff, I deleted the MS broken Chrome installation, then I used the box stock MS Explorer to go get me a new copy.   Getting through the web took me 8-10 minutes using MS Explorer just due to MS porky slow plus waiting for all the ad sites to load up so I could go on to the next click.

Got to Google.com finally.  Told it I wanted Chrome for Windows 10-8.1-8.0-Win7 and hit go.    Google is playing with MS a little bit, they detected this was a new Win 10 installation with no previous Chrome on the MS boot partition --- and then Google had a little blurb pop up about MS Edge browser erroneously saying it is a lot faster than Chrome.

Then Google said, Let's Find Out

On your mark, get set, GO !!!!

Inside 10 seconds Google had put Chrome browser on the machine and had installed all my bookmarks, etc. which they stored on my Google Drive.  Or maybe they got it from my Linux partition .... who knows?  

Anyhow, they went and GOT it and set it all up for me, flawlessly and automatically.   Inside 10 seconds.

Done inside 10 seconds.

So, 10 seconds for Google's installation which completed flawlessly .....   and I am now working on my second hour of MS installation which has stalled at 93% yet again, with only two interruptions so far for "Known Issues".

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #256 - 07/02/16 at 07:08:27
 
My DVD player decided to work again, grudgingly
if my machine '10 dies' I will simply get a tablet (and a portable DVD player)
so far I think I'm still on 8.1 though
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Reply #257 - 07/02/16 at 07:13:52
 

MS just locked up totally during the install of Win 10, I used Task Manager to get it all back to going again, and I didn't supposedly lose the Win 10 upgrade that was in progress either.


Got all the way up to 96% now.


Grin     .... go Windows go !!!
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Reply #258 - 07/02/16 at 11:06:42
 

Stalled again at 99% --- this time folks have no answer about how to get it to bump past the 99% issue except to burn a DVD and use that.


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.... supposedly waiting for the next days scheduled MS update can jog the 99% stoppage thing free.  

I'll wait as I don't like the risk involved in a DVD boot disc reformatting the entire hard drive and scragging all my Linux partitions too.
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #259 - 07/02/16 at 12:21:50
 
I'll have to see what happens on July 29th.
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #260 - 07/02/16 at 12:54:25
 
I can't even update my Windows 7 computer without it messing up. I gets locked into a loop at startup and keeps restarting itself because of some updates not installing correctly. I can't even get Windows 10 if I wanted to until I get 7 updated without it crashing. Computer gets stuck at the point of "preparing to configure Windows" screen during startup. It gets to 100% on configuring and restarts.
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Reply #261 - 07/02/16 at 13:15:33
 
Well after 5 restarts, all the 7 updates finally took.  Huh
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #262 - 07/02/16 at 14:02:02
 

Angry    

As Versy says,  we are upgrading our otherwise sound hardware with pure undiluted MicroCrap ......
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Reply #263 - 07/02/16 at 16:39:25
 

I started this Win 10 clusterfook at 10:00 am this morning.   It is now 7:30 PM and I am 32% done installing MS's wonderful Win 10 Drivers.

This is excruciating, and I can prove it is much much slower than watching paint dry as I painted my bike trailer's channel rail high friction gray while I waited for the download to complete and the gray high friction porch paint is dry already.

There isn't anything on my Win 10 gaming partition other than Chrome, Steam and a couple of games, so my installation is way quicker than it could have been.  

Hey, it has taken only 9 hours used up out of my life so far ......
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #264 - 07/03/16 at 03:15:12
 

Coffee drinking on Sunday morning, with all of Win 10 firmly installed and working .....

Perspective is a nice thing.    But you only get it after the fact.

For a MS upgrade, it was typical, very time consuming with lots of little "known issues".   In fairness, TIME simply could have taken care of the issues .....
-- a lot of time --       more time than you would normally expect.

Drivers issues with the Dell big box refurb unit -- Zero

Drivers issues with the Asus Silent video card -- so far, none displaying text and graphics.   Issues will be only be seen running GAMES, which I haven't tried to do yet.  

So far, the stuff works OK.    My Linux partitions were left alone and my Grub start menu is unchanged.  The only thing I have noted problem-wise is that Edge is now my default browser on Windows and I cannot change that back to Chrome because MS won't let me.  

It is a walled garden, you know.   Never forget that.

I think those who are considering clicking on the upgrade button need to reserve a whole day of fiddle time and start the thing up the night before while you are sleeping and let it grind all night.    Wastes less time that way.

And although right now Win 7 is a better OS for what we do, Win 7 ends inside 3 years and you are going to see MS's support go to zero pretty soon for Win 7 consumer level folks like us -- we had our upgrade ship pull up to the dock and we should have gotten on while it was here.

If you are currently landlocked into MS, then Win 10 is where I guess you want to be right now as the big steam whistle is blowing now, saying .....

"ALL ABOARD, SHIP IS DEPARTING IN 28 DAYS"
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #265 - 07/04/16 at 02:18:12
 

Update on the Win 10 numbers

Now that MS has been successfully sued by an individual user for $10,000 for illegally upgrading them and messing up their machine --- and MS has chosen to settle by paying the full amount rather than go to court, MS has backed way way way off on the dirty tricks front.

However, the number didn't stall.  Instead, the installed numbers just jumped by 50 million users and I think the installed numbers will jump again by another 100 million by the end of the month.

Why?  

People were stalling, waiting for MS to make good on their ongoing promises.  This didn't/isn't going to happen as MS now holds out a "future carrot", a grand upgrade to take place in the month AFTER the deadline comes and goes.  



There is no great leap forward coming in the next month to make good on all those broken MS promises.

Instead, folks are realizing what Win 10 really is.  Folks realize that Win 10 uses a fundamentally different "locked down" Bios/EFI boot system on Win 10 and Win 10 is written with HTML inherent in all the code that is used.   Java is around still, but not central to anything any more.   .NET isn't central any more either.

Win 10 is enough different that things written to suit it won't work on the old Win 7 machines much at all going forward.    Various vendors are having to write brand new software for their various devices, accordingly.

Is Win 10 "good new stuff"?   NO, it is a Craptastic walled garden, but it is working.   The upgrade and maintenance system is Craptastic, but it is working.   We are reminded that NO main Windows version was worth a poot until at least a year after it was shipped, it takes at least that long for MS to catch up to itself.

Real finishing and "completion" takes place during the business level roll out, which is where we are headed at the moment.

And the cruise ship with your free berth on it is pulling away from the dock in 26 more days .....

Either wave bye bye from the shore or get on the boat and take your chances that it makes the trip without hitting an iceberg.

It is Microsoft -- you've done this leap of faith many times before.

If you are in any way locked into MS, by all means get on the silly boat while it is still free.

Just do it knowing what you are doing and why you are doing it.
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Reply #266 - 07/04/16 at 12:44:49
 

Linux and Chrome, where are they as competitive systems?


Linux first, as it has been finished for years now and LINUX HAS FULL GAMING SUPPORT now thanks to Gabe and all the STEAM BOX STUFF, stuff which is also showing up all tucked neatly away inside every Linux Distro as it is all open source Linux goodness.  

Linux is as good as it has ever been, quick, light, secure and fast.   Much more so than MS Windows 10.   Sorry boys, I got both systems running on the same hardware in different partitions, and that's just the way it is .....  Linux Mint is FASTER and easier to live with.

BTW, another huge chunk of MS core code also just became FOSS btw.  Yes I am talking about the .NET stuff that just got "donated" by MS because they felt/saw the camera flash go off last time they stuck their hands into the Linux cookie jar to go get them an upgrade to .NET basic functionality.  

Knowing the camera  had caught them, they donated .NET to FOSS instead of fighting over it in court.   This means they can shamelessly stick their hand in for all the rest of it now, as MS is a FOSS supporting company now .......

Watch Win 10 suddenly rotate more and more away from .NET over the next year or so since MS wants to get their locked garden effect to clamp down harder on their end users, just as hard it as it possibly can, actually.    

The old .NET though, that is "enemy camp stuff" to MS now.

Chrome OS is also just about completely finished as a full service OS system --- one that can load several different Linux distros as Crouton tabs, if the user is bold enough to enable programming mode and technical enough to go get it.    

This means the user is skilled enough to go look up a Crouton web page and follow the cut and paste instructions, taking lines of copy/paste instructions from the web page and dropping it in the Chrome command line box on his own machine and mashing his enter key.

Most useful "do real work" Native Android Play Store Applications will also now easily native load on the very newest Chromebooks that are just now coming out.

Android as a "drop your cell phone in a cradle main OS" running up on the big screen is still a year and a little bit away, although Ubuntu Linux can do that same trick right now on 3 Linux based phones if you just gotta have it right now.

You got choices, yes indeedy you do got choices, and the free one you need to lock down on right now is MS Win 10 as you only got 26 more days left in the free Win 10 upgrade offer.

I see nothing wrong in keeping a Windows 10 Gaming Partition on my Linux box --- makes good sense to me as some major games still aren't Steam cooked all the way to perfection just yet.


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Chromebooks now hold the most value and the largest range of choices, operating in the cleanest fastest fashion.
     
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Reply #267 - 07/05/16 at 06:40:07
 
I loaded the Chrome browser on my system before Win 10.... now it seems to run just as slow as Edge or IE 11.

I don't see any other way around it, I am going to have to build a Windows 10 machine period.

I will call it my "Gaming Machine", for no other reason than I have several windows based games that I pay to play.

A couple of them I have played for YEARS and have time invested in them and simply cannot see just "stopping" the play Smiley
Seeing as if I start over years from now I would have to "catch up" to the current top notch levels of fun already achieved Smiley

When I do get it built.... I will probably have to rebuild every two years, as that is the current expansion rate for boards and chips to keep up with online multiplayer graphics and software.

I don't see myself ever stopping at least two of these games, so my dilemma is how big of a gaming machine I should build and how much to spend on it to insure it will last the next 2-4 years.
We could always hope a breakthrough in software memory usage will happen and programs will literally take up almost no space on the hard drive and run smooth as silk...NAW... who am I kidding.
MS already takes up 1/4 of my 800gig hard drive with its Win 10 program and the back up is HUGE. Remember when windows 3 only took 30 megs of hard drive space?

Guess I hit New Egg, Tiger Direct and other places for my stuff... my accounts there should still be in good standing. I haven't built a system in over 5 years (grandpa's) and that one is in his closet replaced by a laptop.
Maybe i'll win a lottery or something (if I bought tickets) or some old guy I met in a bar will pass on and leave me his millions (isn't that a song?).......
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Reply #268 - 07/05/16 at 17:04:26
 
old_rider wrote on 07/05/16 at 06:40:07:
I loaded the Chrome browser on my system before Win 10.... now it seems to run just as slow as Edge or IE 11.


Intentional, MS did that on purpose as they HAVE to show that they are as good as the other folks when running on their own OS.    If you can't run any faster, then make the other guy run slower -- same difference.

I still hold out big hopes for the new generation of "faster than current systems memory" SSD style drives which WILL allow all software to run much faster.   First gen of this hits this fall, so we shall see, now won't we?   We are talking phones and laptops with terabyte sized super fast SSD memory drives which will make the docked computer phones a really practical thing.

Now for some new stuff, fresh from China .....




http://liliputing.com/2016/07/blu-energy-xl-300-smartphone-big-screen-big-bat...

http://liliputing.com/2016/07/tiny-windows-pc-looks-like-alarm-clock.html

 





That alarm clock is a $200 full PC.



And check the specs on a cheap big battery BLU phone that just came out.   Cheap phones just aren't coming across as feeling cheap any more ........



The BLU Energy XL has a 6 inch display and the phone measures 6.3″ x 3.2″ x 0.3″. It weighs just over 7 ounces.

The BLU Energy XL features an octa-core 64-bit processor, 3GB of RAM, 64GB of storage, a fingerprint scanner, and a 1080p display.

But its most impressive feature is probably the battery: the phone packs a 5,000 mAh battery which BLU says should last for up to 3 days of regular use or up to 30 days of standby time.

The phone features a 1.3 GHz Mediatek 67533 ARM Cortex-A53 octa-core processor and supports 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 4.0, FM Radio, and 4G LTE with support for Voice over LTE.

There’s a 13MP rear camera with LED flash and a 5MP front-facing camera with LED flash and an 84 degree wide angle lens.



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Reply #269 - 07/05/16 at 17:37:02
 
Is That ALL?
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