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Reply #270 - 07/05/16 at 17:40:23
 

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Reply #271 - 07/06/16 at 10:11:34
 
What the quoted "to be" price range of that XL?
Might be my next phone... nevermind...found it Smiley

Unlocked to boot! However previous BLU XL Vivo was T mobile only


https://www.amazon.com/BLU-ENERGY-XL-Battery-Smartphone/dp/B01GWUXNBE

(P.S. removed and re-installed Chrome browser, works better now Smiley  )

(P.P.S. Just found out Verizon does not do sims any longer..... guess i'll have to change services to use an unlocked phone)

Final edit: (P.P.P.S. [?])  Had a very long chat session with a representative who explained to me that Verizon "can" make a sim for a phone, they don't like it, but you are the customer. I will have to go to my store or one that does provide the service. See they hate having folks come in with "cheap chinese" super phones that beat up their $700 ones Smiley
The above XL does come unlocked, but... yeah a but... it doesn't support verizon for some reason, or so the reviews state. And THAT is why I will have to go to the store and talk to someone. I will actually go to several stores, so I know for a fact if they have or can do what I will ask of them.
Most of the BLU phones I have seen on Amazon show that they work well with AT &T and T-Mobile and a few other secondary providers, but not with Sprint and Verizon.... so whats up with that?

EDIT AGAIN: LOL answering my own questions, and hopefully providing information for others.
BLU does not work on Verizon or Sprint or any other CDMA phone services, only on GMA types.
So... find out what your service using for connection purposes before buying a phone online Smiley
Didn't they use to make phones "quad band" or some such? like a world phone that covers all bands? Huh
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #272 - 07/06/16 at 16:51:34
 

I am several years away from a new phone, just having gotten a nice one for $200 and a fairly mundane one for $29.    

Phones, I got.   I ride the rotten one up on the handlebars as my Google maps mobile GPS ..... and if I can just remember to crank it up under wifi it can read a stored Google map just dandy.

Momma needs to accidentally trash her new phone so I can give her my good one and then go phone shopping yet again .....


BLU replaces all their phones yearly -- next year that phone will be being sold off for $149 or less.

Low end phones are getting sorta awesome as the OS is the same as the expensive stuff uses and all the low end bits and pieces are the high end stuff from 2 years ago.   As cell phone tech plateaus due to no progress in processors, the low end stuff gets to be real close to the top end stuff, excepting the screen resolution which is once again, the top end stuff from 2 years ago.

That BLU has 3 gigs of memory, plenty enough to support a big screenable Android OS system.    An issue with BLU is whatever OS you buy on it stays on it unless you go change it manually, as BLU does not do "over the air" OS upgrades for much.   Issues with people having to do their own upgrading abound, as BLU was never intended to be upgraded and has some gotchas waiting for the at risk upgrader.

Lastly, please remember that the USA is seen as a completely saturated Apple loving phone market and absolutely NOTHING NEW cell-phone-ish is being designed with us in mind.   Think China and India and you will clue into what markets these new phones were designed to fit.   AT&T always gets left out as nobody uses their style of tower system any more but them ......

Mediatek is doing the processors and somebody else Chinese is doing all the other bits and pieces.

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Reply #273 - 07/07/16 at 15:50:38
 

That was quick ......   actually 6 mos sooner than I thought it would be.

http://liliputing.com/2016/07/samsungs-ufs-removable-memory-cards-5x-faster-m...

Samsung’s UFS removable memory cards are 5x faster than microSD cards






MicroSD cards are tiny, convenient removable storage cards that can be used with some cameras, tablets, smartphones, and other devices. But they’re not exactly super-speedy.

Now Samsung has unveiled a next-gen removable memory card that’s about 5 times faster. In fact, Samsung’s new UFS (Universal Flash Storage) cards offer read/write speeds that are on par with what you’d expect from a high-end SSD.

Samsung’s UFS drives will be available in capacities up to 256GB at launch, and here are some of the performance specs, according to the company:

530 MB/s sequential read speeds
170 MB/s sequential write speed
40,000 IOPS random read rate
35,000 IOPS random write rate

In real-world terms, Samsung says you can use the card to continuously shoot 24 JPEG photos with file sizes of 1,120 MB in about 7 seconds, or read an entire 5GB full-HD movie in 10 seconds.

The UFS removable memory cards are based on the same technology as the UFS 2.0 internal storage Samsung introduced earlier this year.



Every OS just got a lot faster, but the ranking of speed remains the same.   Microsoft benefits the most since they were the bulkiest and slowest by quite a large margin.

But your phone PC just got a lot more real .......   don't forget the "soldered on board" versions and the inserted into a memory slot versions of this same new tech.    It will take competitor products hitting the market and a year or so of settle in time before the pricing gets more reasonable on this new much faster systems / SSD memory (and it rolls over into everything).

Kiss your platter hard drives goodby, this is their replacement technology.    Ditto for DDRAM on the motherboard.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #274 - 07/13/16 at 02:05:44
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/07/pc-shipments-still-falling-not-fast-expected.html

PC shipments still falling.. but not as fast as expected



Here are a few highlights:

*  IDC says global shipments were down 4.5%, but that’s better than the anticipated 7.4% decline.

*  Gartner’s estimate is a bit worse, suggesting a 5.2% decline in shipments during the quarter.    
        Gartner doesn’t include Chromebooks in its figures, though. IDC does.

*  Both reports agree that Lenovo was the top PC vendor during the quarter, followed by HP, Dell, Asus, and Apple



So, the new PC sales figures are out now, and tell an interesting story about MS's abortive bout with Win 10 customer abuse tactics and and the resulting sell through on Chromebooks.

The difference between the 7.4% decline that was expected and the resulting actual 4.5% decline suggests that people had to go abruptly buy a bunch of "unplanned" computers.     Some of this was natural churn, yes, but some of it was due to MS "accidentally" breaking users old equipment with their Windows 10 drivers issues.

And, for the first time, we have actual statistics saying that 0.7% of the pissed off buying public chose at that point in time to jump ship and go with a Chromebook.   That is a solid 15% of the people choosing, actually choosing to  leave MS space instead with their new computing purchase.

No one sees any signs of "PC growth" due to the Win 10 implementation.
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #275 - 07/14/16 at 03:04:25
 

Samsung/IBM/Global Foundry consortium (serving Apple and Google) is still there, still pumping out new processor generations and other processor technology & refinements.

Samsung has also partnered with a couple of the memory companies and has now generated some new generation tech there that will make our devices much faster (at least for one go round, anyway).

Samsung is the main PC and phone innovator right now, taking the place of the old school boys (Apple, MS, Intel) who have fallen by the wayside pretty much.
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Reply #276 - 07/14/16 at 06:57:24
 
school boys (Apple, MS, Intel) who have fallen by the wayside pretty much.


Care to speculate on Why Apple, MS, Intel have dropped back?
Are they seeing a future where the addition of one more bell or one more whistle just not be a big enough difference to inspire consumers to go out and get
The New and Improved
version? Or is the platform about saturated? How much Stuff can be Stuffed into a gizmo that is held up to the head and talked to?
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Reply #277 - 07/14/16 at 09:22:42
 

Intel is stagnant, and MS and Apple are depending on new Intel processors to make their products "better and faster".

Intel can't supply anything that is really any faster, but it can supply the "same ol same ol" somewhat cheaper than before with slightly better battery life, which is all the old school guys are touting right now as "improvements".

Indeed the biggest upper showing lately is having the Intel chipsets to not slow down quite so much whenever they get somewhat warmer than dead cold.
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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #278 - 07/19/16 at 02:11:54
 

What can $99 buy for you brand new starting this year?

http://liliputing.com/2016/07/zte-max-pro-smartphone-big-screen-big-battery-s...



The new ZTE ZMax Pro is a $99 phone that’s available for pre-order today from MetroPCS.

The phone features 6 inch, 1920 x 1080 pixel display, a Qualcomm Snapdragon 617 processor, 2GB of RAM, and 32GB of storage.

It also has a 3,400 mAh battery, a USB 2.0 Type-C connector, quick charging support, and dual SIM card slots (although you can use one of those as a microSD card reader).

There’s a 13MP camera on the back of the phone as well as a fingerprint scanner. The phone has a 5MP front-facing camera.

Other features include 802.11b/g/n WiFi, Bluetooth 4.1, FM radio, Voice over LTE support, and Android 6.0 software.



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ARM HOLDINGS has just been bought by a Japanese consortium.   This is news as ARM got most of its "in the past" product direction from Apple who was their old majority stock holder.

This is fairly bad news for Apple, as they got all ARM tech given to them to cook into their A-9 series chipsets at least a year before it was given to anybody else.   I doubt this will be the case going forward.
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Reply #279 - 07/19/16 at 02:22:15
 
Tech stuff, like THAT? $99.00???
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Reply #280 - 07/19/16 at 02:25:02
 

Codeweavers is coming to both Android and to Chromebooks

This is a pay me software package that boosts Wine's normal action when running MS software on other platforms.   It is generally noted as "it just works" software (but it cannot deal with a University based IT system as that is locked down sixteen ways from Sunday by the IT guys).

Codeweavers started in Linux world, but is branching out as Chromebooks and Android become more popular.

What does this mean?

Buy a modern Chromebook with an Intel processor and at least 4 gigs of systems memory and you might be able to directly run just about any MS world software out there now.

The MS Secure Boot lock-down on new Windows 10 machines that is preventing you from loading an alternate OS is here now, and is beginning to go to the courts at this point in time.   See more people exiting the walled garden accordingly.

In other words, MS is busy creating a whole new market for Codeweavers to exist inside.
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Reply #281 - 07/19/16 at 02:34:33
 
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Tech stuff, like THAT? $99.00???
Do they have suicide nets on that building?


The newest Moto E is similar, but not out yet.   Pretty Good Phones are going to get CHEAP this year, driven by Chinese market and financial forces.

Look to see the upscale market leaders suffer as folks opt more and more for these Pretty Good Phones .....   talking Apple and Samsung here
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Reply #282 - 07/19/16 at 02:57:07
 
Why are all these phones GMA and not CDMA?

Am I going to have to change services just to get to use one?

And then I'll have to buy 4 of them.... and pay extra for each of them being a "smart phone".


In other news..... OF have you heard about ARM?  

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/softbank-agrees-buy-britains-arm-032410301...
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Reply #283 - 07/19/16 at 04:33:03
 

Yep, I mentioned it about 4 posts up.    Softbank is acting as a consortium of sorts, we still don't know who exactly is behind that purchase deal right now, but that may become apparent soon enough.

The large drop in British monetary values due to the EU exit may have provided the opportunity, but the particular rational and various players are not clear right now.

Last time MS tried to buy up ARM (ARM is rather small potatoes money-wise compared to the old big boys) Apple stepped in to block that play.   This time there is no real blocking going on .... both Apple and Google have interests in ARM so they may be players in the Softbank consortium -- or not as the case may be.

Something is up, you can count on that ........
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Reply #284 - 07/19/16 at 05:07:37
 
 
Gotta be careful of them phones that you buy AS CDMA PHONES HAVE NO SIM CARD and generally are not as easily moved from carrier to carrier.

On top of that, CDMA is the infrastructure on which all 3G networks are based — for both GSM and CDMA carriers.   Note that all carriers are generally able to do 2G and 3G and LTE and 4G LTE nowadays, but the sim card using phones (GSM) tend to allow easier switch ups between the various GSM carriers.

However, now there’s a third type of network that is quickly becoming the front runner in terms of quality, with many major cell phone companies quickly adopting it. Appropriately dubbed LTE for Long-Term Evolution, the technology is an evolved form of GSM and uses a similar technology as GSM networks. The new standard boasts enhanced voice quality, and furthermore, functions as the base of high-speed, 4G data networks. In this case, LTE does have an edge over the competition in terms of overall speed and quality.

If you’re a U.S. customer and wondering what companies use which type of network, the split is right down the middle: AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM carriers, while Verizon and Sprint are CDMA. In truth, picking a new phone or carrier solely based on GSM, CDMA, or LTE doesn’t necessarily matter, as what services, features, phones, and service quality a network offers aren’t solely dependent on their network infrastructure.


My "good phone" is a Google Nexus 5X which can currently swap seamlessly and automatically between 3 carriers.   US Cellular and Sprint are CDMA houses, while T Mobile is a GSM house.  Google is using 4G LTE as their major push focus with fall backs to LTE and 3G towers as needed.   Google will only drop down to 2G under dire "no other tower" conditions, which are very very rare these days.

The Qualcomm chipset inside the Nexus 5X phone can run ALL the current US and foreign standards, so Google has an open field to add supporting carriers as they want to be added.

Google is trying to teach the cell phone industry to quit being tower hogs and drop the "tower centric thinking" that is hampering things so much right now.

Over half my phone everything now runs off of wifi all the time anyway.   Wifi is the default preference for both of my phones, for both the good one and the free one.   Towers only play for me if I am in a car rolling down the road.

5G LTE is coming, and this HUGE upgrade may well dissolve the old GMS/CDMA issues completely.

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