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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #375 - 08/19/16 at 19:35:11
 

Yep, the big Volvo trucks hardly made a bump when they rolled over them .....

Seriously, your defensive riding techniques had better get sharper, a lot sharper as the programs running these things estimate the "best solution" in the case of a "no choice, must kill" scenario  by killing the least number of people.

Motorcycles only count for 1, you know.
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Reply #376 - 08/20/16 at 08:04:01
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/19/16 at 13:53:41:

https://www.google.com/?ion=1&espv=2#q=android%20phone%20as%20pc

Back to the Android Phone/PC thing again .....  

You do realize that Nougat has the basic USB C functionality to run a mouse, keyboard, exterior monitor, right?    Just there, just part of any USB C phone once it gets updated to Nougat in a few days.

Google is prepping their take on Andromium, but since the capability for it is already there and Nougat has it already built into it, would you mebbe expect a lot of third party docking stations and cable sets to be coming up out of the woodwork?

Yeper, the third party technology has a name now, MHL-compatible docks .....  and they look like this for a fairly good one (best rated unit of the current crop):

      $26       BTW, it also charges your phone .....   the better ones now have larger speakers built in for movie watching, music, etc.


https://cms-images.idgesg.net/images/article/2015/02/base-1-100569643-large.jpg


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so you're saying I should be able to guy one of these to use my phone as a PC soon? or i need to update to nugat first?
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Reply #377 - 08/21/16 at 08:28:45
 

Intel plays Liar's Poker and Global Foundry sees their bet and raises them double.

Intel is stuck in 14 nanometer and Intel is now touting how they got all these wonderful plans to go to 10 nanometer later this year and to 7nm sometimes next year.    

Samsung/Global Foundry/IBM are at 10 millimeter right now (by fudging their 14-nanometer process equipment with extra passes) and they are currently producing 10nm chips for Apple, Qualcomm and Samsung at this time.

So here comes Intel with a big belated "We are getting ARM support now so we will be there first"?   Huh

So Global Foundry just dropped a "do you one better" claim on Intel that by the time Intel goes to the 10 nanometer level in REALITY LAND that Global will be shipping 7nm.

Part of this is mocking one-upmanship from Global done intentionally because Intel is saying that they will be the first to get to 7nm (and ARM will have to be working with them to get there).  And what Global Foundry is quietly NOT saying is that ARM historically supports their loyal RISC chipset builders first, not abuser folks who fire off brown vapor siege cannon all the time (and are in the habit of wrecking their ARM based partners, like Intel did to poor stupid 'ol Rockchip and to Altera even before that).

Arm is a Japanese company now, and it is not acting like a British Gentleman's club organization anymore as it was done in the past.   Look to see how things and the speed of doing them CHANGE during the last third of this year.

And believe NOTHING Intel says, nothing should be considered as factual actual until their supposed partner says it too.    Intel's track record for them big stinky brown blasts of "factual actual" haven't been so good lately.

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Re: Android vs Windows 10
Reply #378 - 08/22/16 at 11:44:47
 

So, how has the world of computing changed this year?

Microsoft embraces Linux programming languages and tools (and actually has Ubuntu up and running on Win 10) as a programming market required item.

"We don't want your ever-changing buggy Windows 10" is coming from all the FOSS programmers, programmers that MS so deeply needs right now to help support their slowly failing environment.

Intel is now trying to pretty please run some ARM chipsets for SOMEBODY, ANYBODY because their production lines are partially idled again.   No real takers so far ..... and no money coming in to pay the bills.

In both cases the FOSS world is not very impressed with either of them, and FOSS seems to be looking for the classic "knife in the back trick" to flash forth yet again as both MS and Intel have done so with an ARM partner within the last 2 years.

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Reply #379 - 08/22/16 at 12:15:18
 
 
What has changed this year in the world of Wintel Computing?

What changed this year?   MS got rid of their QC department (total 100% lay off) and substituted a Beta program to have the problems reported by volunteer users.  Unpaid volunteers, who did their jobs and predicted each one of the following problems that MS then decided (using MS's infinite wisdom willful arrogance) to dump the flaws off on their entire customer base by A REQUIRED UPGRADE without fixing them first.

What is wrong with this picture ????

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/20/massive-windows-10-update-...

Discovered by Microsoft MSFT -0.08%-centric blog Thurrott, the Windows 10 Anniversary Update has been found to break “millions” of web cameras for upgraders. The bug affects web cameras of all brands and is even breaking Skype – Microsoft’s own audio and video chat service.

As Thurrott writer Brad Sams notes, of particular concern is a Microsoft support thread where it is clear that customers of substantial enterprise clients are being hit hard.

One user writes: “We have a working product running for years and millions of unhappy users that are unable to use it at all after this update” with another explaining: “We have millions of users and we are in situation now where we have to tell them not to update the Windows anymore or switch to Mac OS.”



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http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/15/microsoft-warns-windows-10...

The ‘Anniversary Update’ is the largest and most important Windows 10 upgrade so far. It is also compulsory, but as it began rolling out reports followed that the mega update is causing PCs to freeze. Now Microsoft MSFT -0.08% has confirmed one major issue and admitted it currently does not have a fix…

Taking to its Microsoft Answers support site, the company has posted a new and self explanatory topic titled: ‘Windows 10 may freeze after installing the Anniversary Update’ and states there have been:

“Microsoft has received a small number of reports of Windows 10 freezing after installing the Anniversary Update on systems with the operating system stored on a solid-state drive (SSD) and apps and data stored on a separate drive. This issue does not occur when starting Windows 10 in Safe Mode. If you are experiencing this issue, we will be providing updates to this thread…We ask for your patience while we continue our investigation and please check back on this thread for an update.”

The reference to “a small number” remains to be seen. The Reddit thread where these problems were first discussed has close to 1,000 comments from affected users and the Microsoft Answers page already has 35 pages of comments from distressed users at the time of publication.




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http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/08/09/windows-10-anniversary-upd...

What had happened? The Windows 10 Anniversary Update initially installs without issue but the next time the PC is restarted it won’t boot.

To the credit of the original Reddit thread poster, 31 updates (to date) have been added to the initial post as different suggestions and claims by posters were tested. These include disabling Secure Boot, editing the registry, reinstalling device drivers and changing installation locations for Windows updates.

Microsoft acknowledges the issue but so far nothing other than rolling back to a previous version of Windows has worked to fix it. A solution which doesn’t aid those who did a clean installation of Windows 10 rather than upgrade from either Windows 7 or Windows 8.

Meanwhile the list of posts by those suffering the same problem continues to get longer and longer and users have also started to complain to Microsoft’s official Twitter @Microsoft and @MicrosoftHelps profiles as well as Microsoft Community. se

I have contacted Microsoft about the issue. I’ll update if/when a statement is made.

With Microsoft executives admitting Windows 10 will not hit its 2018 target of one billion installations even before the free Windows 10 upgrade period closed last month, these crashes by the heavily promoted Anniversary Updates are the last thing the company needed on top of the failed one billion sell-through of the new OS system.


...........  repeat of old news ........

For months Microsoft has been describing Windows 10 “as a service”  and now we know why. Microsoft is going to introduce a monthly subscription fee for Windows 10 usage

That cost will be $7 per user per month but the good news is it only applies to enterprises for now. The new pricing tier will be called “Windows 10 Enterprise E3” and it means Windows has finally joined Office 365 and Azure as a subscription service.

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Reply #380 - 08/22/16 at 17:11:59
 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3094785/windows/yes-windows-10-subscriptions-a...

A business size of only one person would apply ....   right now the pop talk is the first ones to sign up get Office 365 included and Cloud Services are also included, which means it might be worth it for the early adopting die hard windows lover.

Or it might be worth learning how to use Google stuff, as it is free ongoing, as is Linux.   I think MS is learning to their dismay that a very great many people understand Linux just fine, especially any form of programmer type person.

However, you can now go buy a license "oldstyle" for $129 that is only good for the life of the exact device that you put it on (device and license are locked together forever) but any future updates and upgrades ARE NOT GUARANTEED TO BE FREE FOR THE LIFE OF THE DEVICE.  

Major Updates and Major Upgrades are always to be considered "value and cost added" propositions ......


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Reply #381 - 08/29/16 at 01:50:49
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/08/maru-os-now-open-source-turns-android-phones-li...

So much for bashing on Win 10 and MS -- What is happening to replace it ???  is the real question now.




We have this new entry in the "replace MS Windows with your Android phone" sweepstakes, it is Maru OS, which is a light Linux variant that is intended to go on any Android phone that has a USB/MHL capable connection and at least a gig of phone memory.  

There is a crop of developers working up various popular phones to work with the new OS.  It is early yet on this one, but it exists now and will only get better with time.  

Being a FOSS project, anyone can glom on to any tricks they come up with so you can expect standard Linux programs to perhaps be able to run on future Android phones if Google picks up on these tricks.   By run, I mean as a natural part of the OS, possibly.  

Google needs to consider this as Linux is seen as a good thing by MS that they WANTED available inside their Win 10 OS because if they lacked it they would lose even more market share than they have currently lost.

Same tread of reasoning, taken sorta backwards can explain Fuchsia, a NON-Linux based, built only using the most modern Google open source tools OS system.   Google may not want MS to be able to take over their next phone, tablet and PC OS system like MS has now actually done to Linux (and it is rumored that MS plans to do to Android next).  

Fuchsia also will stop MS's extortion program that is getting a billion dollars a year out of the various phone manufactures for "an undisclosed patent infringement" in their Android versions.    

Yes, this is an out and out MS extortion -- pay MS yearly or we will invent something to sue you hard enough and frequently enough to make the "reasonable sized licensing fee" seem to be a good deal -- you will have to pay your lawyers much more than the yearly fee just to show up in court to defend yourself against our vague and specious patent claims.

Maru OS is essentially a custom version of Google Android which also includes Debian Linux running in an LXC Linux Container. When you connect a display with a USB/MHL cable, you can run Linux desktop apps without rebooting your mobile device, allowing you to take phone calls and receive notifications even while you’re using Firefox, LibreOffice, GIMP, or other desktop software.

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Reply #382 - 08/30/16 at 07:22:48
 

BOOM !!!!    goes the large brown vapor siege cannons ....

Kaby Lake is here !!!   Celebrate !!!  Dance in the streets !!!  Run out and buy something new !!!

Please !!!





Tick .....  Tock ....  Debug and Optimize    We are now in the third year of the "same old same old" from Intel (all at 14nm).

The following is the pundits speaking, with them saying gently that the chips are pretty much the same stuff as before, just the mobile ones have even more of the old tech energy controlling nanny chips implemented to try to keep them from overheating.    We remember how well this worked (not very well, actually) from years past when Intel did the same thing to existing chip designs and called them "mobile chips".  

Tongue      The mobile chips are "pre-throttled" and power consumption limited out the arse and the "normal" chips still choke down by half as they get hot.

Interestingly the pricing isn’t all that different for the different classes of chips, and the peak performance should also be similar… the key differences between Y and U series chips is the base clock speed. U series chips will have a base clock speed that’s about twice that of their Y series counterparts, which means even when not working at full capacity, they’ll be faster.

Meanwhile, the lower-power Y series chips should be able to offer longer battery life in some situations (assuming you have the same sized battery) and/or fit into thinner, lighter form factors.

That helps explain the change in naming: Intel and its hardware partners don’t want you to think of Core M/Y-series chips as cheaper, lower-performance cousins to their Core i/U-series processors. Instead, they’re simply designed to fit into tight spaces where more power-hungry chips might overheat.

At least that’s the idea. It’ll be interesting to see how it holds up in real-world performance.


Please note the word "chips" -- there is no system on a chip integration from Intel, even now after 8 years of trying.
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Reply #383 - 08/30/16 at 10:52:57
 

Fiscal pruning time on the "social progress" items at Alphabet (Google).  

Each branch of the Google Project X tree must account for itself for the very first time, and there are some losers that are getting pruned early this time around.

First prune job goes to Google Fiber, all capital has been held until such time that the various installation cities pass ordinances that allow the Google hired third party local cable crews to move the other folks stuff around as they reconfigure all the boxes and telephone poles JUST ONCE.

This has to be resolved city by city before Google lays another inch of fiber optic cable in that city.   This is in response to AT&T playing games with local ordinances and Union rules which is forcing Google to do it all three times in stages.   This "dog in the manger" stuff must stop ASAP.

Next, Alphabet now wants the long distance wireless tech stuff brought completely to the table and implemented in at least one city so they can really really believe it works like it is said to work.    Potentially very disruptive if they can pull that trick off ..... and if it works good Google Fiber rolls forward using that tech 100%.

This puts the new Webpass guys both under the gun and under the microscope .... perform guys, like you said you could when we bought you a few months back ....

Next, no more Pixel Chromebooks will be built -- Alphabet points to brand new HP and Dell units that are built up to that level now and Google should not and will not compete with their own vendors over a market niche once the niche finally takes off.   The Pixel idea rolls over to very very top end expensive phones now, with super deluxe PC type features.

Ditto for low cost Nexus phones since the market place has adopted all the Nexus tricks and and all the Nexus goodies are all in play now from all the major vendors.  I bought me one of the last of the Nexus phones -- until such time the market needs to be nudged again you won't see another low cost Nexus phone.

Project Auria (the modular phone) is being cut completely and is being replace by Pixel Phones (sorta like Nexus as being thought leaders, but not low cost phones at all -- very pricey very deluxe phones).

Alphabet has dropped work levels down on the Google Car as the Google car is not the ground breaking thing any more since Volvo came out of their deep dark hole (Volvo Mining Operations) with a fully developed system that is fully installed and is WORKING RIGHT NOW in Pittsburgh, Ohio with Uber owned Volvo cars and with some Uber owed Volvo trucks rolling down the interstate RIGHT NOW as we speak.  

Volvo has been doing this down in mines (tunnels and open pit style mines) for over 10 years now -- it ain't nothing new to them.    Volvo is your automatic car leader now and that market niche shows signs of taking off nicely.

Need a load picked up, just use your Uber app.   Go buy you some Uber stock  -- they are gonna be worldwide big before long if they can keep their momentum up like it is right now.


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Cutting these loss points early after a niche takes off (or fails to take off) will help Alphabet as a company keep Project X outlay costs down and allow them to roll these same saved resources towards some new projects that still have their full disruptive potential undiminished.

This pruning should take place every year going forward, and if a project won't blossom and set any real fruit in a few years, it should be pruned -- the earlier the better.
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Reply #384 - 08/30/16 at 12:26:17
 

There were questions as to why Intel bothered coming out with the not-so-different new Kaby Lake chipsets, chipsets with no throughput increases or any other real noticeable differences to the previous chips that were being sold as of last week.  

Indeed, they seemed to be pure Intel little brown gas farts with NOTHING to recommend them at all .....

But, all has become clear now -- Microsoft has demanded that ALL the lock down features be turned on the new chips and brand new part numbers be assigned to any chip that wants to run all the new features of Win 10 from this point forward.  

The OS install programs will look for the main processor chip part number and will only load/run the latest Win 10 if it finds a part number on the approved list.

If you try to load a new copy of Win 10 on an old machine it won't want to load at all.  If you finesse it and get it to load anyway you won't get the new features that depend on "on-processor support items" and your new copy of Win 10 may behave very very badly for you.

If you try to load an old Win OS copy (or a Linux) on to that brand new machine, it will immediately fail on you in some mysterious fashion because it is missing something that the new chip's on board lock down subsystems need that is only included in the NEWEST Win 10 releases .....

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3112663/software/microsoft-made-em-do-it-the-l...

Microsoft is slamming the door shut on PC builders and upgraders who might have hoped to use the new Intel Kaby Lake or AMD Zen chips for Windows 7 or Windows 8 PCs.   Sorry: Both chips are officially supported only by Microsoft’s Windows 10.

Microsoft's mandate is discreet rather than secret. In January, the company tried to shorten its support lifecycle for Intel Skylake PCs running Windows 7 and 8, a policy the company subsequently abandoned after much outcry. But Microsoft’s statements have also consistently included a critical caveat: The latest generations of silicon—specifically Intel’s Kaby Lake chip, Qualcomm’s 8996, and AMD’s Bristol Ridge silicon—will all require Windows 10.

“As new silicon generations are introduced, they will require the latest Windows platform at that time for support,” a Microsoft spokeswoman reopen your vein monthly for poor old MSplied, when asked to confirm that that position was still in place. The goal appears to be to move forward with new features, even if it means leaving some users behind. “This enables us to focus on deep integration between Windows and the silicon, while maintaining maximum reliability and compatibility with previous generations of platform and silicon.”

Why this matters: Microsoft's push forward, however rational from a technology standpoint, robs PC enthusiasts of their choice of operating systems—a freedom this particular sector of the community has loudly defended in the past. This could have broader implications for the PC market, too: It could be the deciding factor that finally brings about the abandonment of Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 and perhaps ending dual boot Linux distros as well.

What the mandate means for PC users

AMD and Intel, for their part, appear to have had little choice in Microsoft’s decision essentially to limit the customers they can sell to.

“We are committed to working with Microsoft and our ecosystem partners to help ensure a smooth transition given these changes to Microsoft’s Windows support policy,” an Intel spokesman said.

"No, Intel will not be updating Win 7/8 drivers for 7th Gen Intel Core per Microsoft’s support policy change," he added in an email on Tuesday.

An AMD representative was equally neutral. “AMD’s processor roadmap is fully aligned with Microsoft’s software strategy,” AMD chief technical officer Mark Papermaster said, via a company spokeswoman.

AMD’s Bristol Ridge chip, the first to be tied to Windows 10, launched in June as its seventh-generation APU. AMD’s first member of its new Zen microprocessor family, dubbed Summit Ridge, will appear in high-end desktop PCs early next year. Neither will be officially supported by the older operating systems.

Here's the obvious question: What would happen if a naïve or not-so-naïve user attempted to run Windows 7 or Windows 8 on a Kaby Lake or Zen system? Without actual chips to test, the answer is unknown at this time.

One source privately guessed that the processor would boot, though without driver support and security updates the experience would be “a bit glitchy.” Without specific support for a chip’s features—such as the dedicated video processing logic within Kaby Lake, for example—certain apps, if not the OS itself, might crash, another said.


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This is PC World saying this folks, not me.   Betcha they are spot on with their report on this latest turning of the MS thumb screws.

The use of this list implies that your old vintage "pre-now" processor equipped MS OS machine can be turned off by MS at will  (permanently) if you violate any of the new MS rules ......

.... or mebbe even if it simply becomes MS's scheduled time for your machine "to go obsolete" ???? 


.... scary ain't it?    

Now don't you go be getting behind on your blood bowl payments.  Remember to be good little MS loving boys and girls and open your veins monthly to support dear old MS.

    Eddie, go push the button on that guy --- he's looking way too frisky to me .....
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Reply #385 - 08/31/16 at 08:51:59
 




The walls are up, the walls are high, there are no doors --- you must buy your way into the walled garden and you must STAY THERE, inside the walls.

Quit whining that you are a prisoner now and that your chains chafe at your ankles and wrists --- you chose to be there of your own free will.

 
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Reply #386 - 08/31/16 at 16:19:28
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/08/intels-low-power-apollo-lake-chips-detailed.html

Intel’s new part number (totally locked down) low-power Apollo Lake chip daughter boards now detailed



Also note that the relatively HUGE two layered 55mm x 82mm daughter board contains most of the needed functions to support the actual main chipset.   Obviously, calling the entire Intel unit a System On a Chip is a quite LARGE misnomer screw-up as it has dozens of components on the daughterboard set up.   But it is the best Intel has done so far .....

There is no news yet on any form of price supports or contra-revenue that would be needed to support this daughter board style implementation in any form of Android or Windows phone or tablet.    

Here’s a run-down of the new chips:

Celeron N3350: 1.1 GHz/2.4 GHz dual-core 6 watt CPU with Intel HD 500 graphics (200MHz/650MHz
Celeron N3450: 1.1 GHz/2.2 GHz quad-core 6 watt CPU with Intel HD 500 (200 MHz/700MHz)
Pentium N4200: 1.1 GHz/2.5 GHz quad-core 6 watt CPU with Intel HD 505 (200 MHz/750 MHz)
Celeron J3355: 2 GHz/2.5 GHz dual-core 10 watt CPU with Intel HD 500 (250 MHz/700MHz)
Celeron J3455: 1.5 GHz/2.3 GHz quad-core 10 watt CPU with Intel HD 500 (250 MHz/750 MHz)
Pentium J4205: 1.5 GHz/2.6 GHz quad-core 10 watt CPU with Intel HD 505 (250 MHz/800 MHz)


All of the new chips are 64-bit processors with support for up to 8GB of RAM and up to 3 displays.   All of them have the new MS required lock down functions enabled and they all swing brand new part numbers accordingly.

Intel is positioning the 6 watt chips as “mobile” and the 10 watt variants as “desktop” chips with higher base clock speeds. But all of these processors use less energy than the recently launched Kaby Lake-U line of 15 watt laptop processors, so theoretically there’s no reason you couldn’t see a Pentium J4205 in a mobile device… unless Intel   (or more pointedly Microsoft)   decides it doesn’t want to sell that chip to PC makers that plan to use it in an Android mobile device.


It is unknown if these new "OS controlled" chipsets can even be used in an Android device as the new Intel chips REQUIRE items that are only contained in the most modern versions of Win 10 OS.

Hey Microsoft, can you say "Actions in restraint of trade" three times fast ???

But there may be a reason not to allow these new Intel chipsets to leave the walled garden -- they might go get all beat up very badly by the mid-pack of the new ARM superchips, much less the horrendous beating they'd get from the brand new 10nm 10 core ARM Media Tek chipsets and the Qualcomm 823.  

Nor have these new Intel daughter boards been subjected to benchmark testing in any form yet.   This generally in the past seemed to indicate moderate to weak performance from the choked down "mobile unit" and perhaps some non-competitive performance from the "PC unit".

New Helios 30 and Qualcomm Antutu benchmarks are at 130,000 and 160,000 points now which greatly exceeds any Intel chipset ever Antutu tested (including Intel's Core i-5 and Core i-7).   And yes, the PC x386 main chipsets can't show all their power in a mobile type application because of overheating and power constraints.


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Reply #387 - 08/31/16 at 17:11:11
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/08/acer-chromebook-r-13-convertible-coming-october...




Acer’s new 13 inch Chromebook marks a couple of firsts. The Acer Chromebook R 13 is the first convertible Chromebook with a 13.3 inch touchscreen display. And it’s the first Chromebook with a MediaTek processor.

It’s also a Chromebook that should do a pretty good job of supporting Android apps as well as web apps. The notebook has 4GB of RAM and supports up to 64GB of storage, giving you plenty of space for games and media.


This is only a low cost Media Tek quad core A72/A53 chipset, not one of the 10 core mobile powerhouse Media Tek chipsets we have been talking about.  

Why is this particular machine significant?   ACER is an old MS/INTEL loving firm but they are having to jump ship as Intel has nothing for them now ---- as this Chrome based product is OUTSIDE THE WALLED GARDEN and Intel is not allowed by MS to come outside the walled garden to play in these sorts of things any more.




You do know what walled gardens change into after a while, don't you?
yep, historical monuments ..... full of atrocities, ghosts and moldy dead things



Why the walled garden ???   Why now ????   Microsoft is trying to put some hardware accelerator functions that their porky OS needs very badly inside the new Intel chipsets.   This is because Intel can't make their 14nm stuff go any faster, so instead Microsoft is putting dedicated hardware acceleration of the various MS OS functions actually down inside Intel's daughter board thingies to get some extra speed and responsiveness.   This is also happening with AMD processors, so it is the current fruition of a MS action plan that goes back two years now.

So, will Win 10 work as well on older processors?    No, it will not.    Will other OS products like Linux work well on the current Intel processors?    No, not at all, not until FOSS figures out how to beat the hardware lock downs and figures out what the future MS Win 10 versions supply to the Intel processor daughter boards to get all the built in accelerator features to work correctly.

Until then, it is functionally a walled garden, built by MS using  "actions in restraint of trade".      smells sorta Apple like, don't cha  know




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Linux Distros have decided to pay the UEFI fee to become bootable on most older equipment that is currently having its UEFI functionally turned on by MS's endless nightly updates.  Quote is from a discussion on Slash Dot, a FOSS discussion board.

I expect MS's UEFI lock down will soon prevent Linux from being installed.

Linux is now supported by UEFI. The major Linux distros have all paid the one-time US$99 fee to be able to get their code on the UEFI supported list for all old equipment.



There is a complaint about this before the EU's Free Trade Commission --  but this is a very mild extortion compared to everything else MS is doing lately, so it will likely be glommed in with all the rest of the BS that the EU says needs fixing whenever they get around to adressing it.
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Microsoft (Wintel) has attempted similar things in the historical past, but the old walls had doors in them and actually were not so intentionally exclusive and restrictive.

Nowadays, MS is leading the group now, retreating and retrenching itself inside ever steeper, taller and more absolute walls -- this time literally picking up Intel and AMD and taking them along for the ride with promises of "market share protection" against all the ARM based Genghis Khan infidels out there ....

This illustration shows what this logic results in -- abandoned market share turf which is then immediately taken over by the infidels who take up residence and actually camp inside your old walls.





Intel and AMD cannot survive just off of what a shrinking MS can sell -- they will have to jump ship before long.




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