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Reply #390 - 09/03/16 at 06:32:18
 

http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/25/11772222/foxconn-automation-robots-apple-sa...

Foxconn cuts 60,000 factory jobs and replaces them with robots

Automation is fast becoming a reality for workers of many of the world's biggest corporations, which are finding the falling costs of purchasing robots and programming those robots to be more attractive than retaining human labor. In the US, the debate is playing out in the form of a $15 an hour minimum wage, with former McDonald's USA CEO Ed Rensi saying, "It’s cheaper to buy a $35,000 robotic arm than it is to hire an employee who’s inefficient making $15 an hour bagging french fries."

Overseas, in factories owned by Taiwan-based corporations like Foxconn, the process is accelerating even faster. Proponents of automation say the jobs that will be eliminated first are those that make human workers miserable and that, in the longterm, more valuable positions will open up as more machines replace humans. Notably for Foxconn, which has been mired in controversy for its factory conditions and high rate of worker suicides, robots also present a way to remedy poor public perception without necessarily improving the quality of life of its employees.

However, economists fear the short-term fallout from automation may be a devastating loss of jobs and economic instability. A report, conducted by Deloitte and Oxford University, predict as many as 35 percent of jobs will be automated over the next two decades. An even more telling forecast was made by researchers Carl Benedikt Frey and Michael Osborne in their 2013 paper "The Future of Employment," in which they predicted about 50 percent of jobs will disappear over the next four to five decades.


We will live to see this elimination of most of what we used to call "jobs".   They just won't be there any more.
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Reply #391 - 09/03/16 at 06:39:29
 
Well, shucky darns and Gooollee gee willakerz, nobody saw That coming..
And the geniuses who DIDN'T see that also laughed at the idea that the cost of labor won't close small businesses and keep others from opening. It's hilarious watching the same people be wrong,time after time, and steadfastly argue that they are Right about everything they have yet to be Proven wrong about. It's as if nothing happened.
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Reply #392 - 09/03/16 at 06:42:54
 

http://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/16/04/7885499/why-apple...



Why Apple Could Layoff Between 25,000 And 30,000 Of 115,000 Employees By End Of Year

Apple, coming off of a very good year is laying off people right and left -- Apple sees a very poor year coming with multiple countries have economic woes which will affect Apple very strongly.

Apple Inc.
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has recently been laying off around 100 contract and full-time recruiters, but Global Equities Research analyst Trip Chowdhry believes this is just the tip of the iceberg for Apple layoffs. Chowdhry estimates that Apple will cut between 25,000 and 30,000 of its 115,000 employees by the end of 2016
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Reply #393 - 09/03/16 at 06:52:09
 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-19/intel-cuts-12-000-jobs-fore...

Intel Corp. will eliminate 12,000 jobs, or 11 percent of its workforce, embarking on the deepest cutbacks in a decade to gird for a fifth year of declines in the personal-computer market.

Krzanich to increase focus on data center, Internet of things
Chipmaker paring 11% of workforce; shares fall in late trading

The world’s biggest maker of semiconductors said it’s shifting focus to higher-growth areas, such as chips for data center machines and Internet-connected devices. Intel also posted disappointing first-quarter revenue and gave a second-quarter sales forecast that fell short of analysts’ estimates.

Shipments of PCs, a market that provides Intel with more than half of its sales, fell to their lowest level in a decade in the first three months of 2016. The depth and duration of the slump mean Intel can no longer fall back on booming demand for server chips or market-share gains against weaker rival Advanced Micro Devices Inc. The job cuts mark the most radical action yet by Chief Executive Officer Brian Krzanich, who has brought in new executives and shaken up his team as he works to reduce Intel’s dependence on PCs and rekindle growth by pushing into newer businesses.

“It’s acknowledging the reality that it’s a single-digit growth world,” said Michael Shinnick, a fund manager at Wasatch Advisors Inc., which owns Intel shares. “The end markets aren’t growing to the extent that they were.”




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http://www.recode.net/2016/7/28/12319010/microsoft-cutting-more-phone-jobs

Surprise! Microsoft found 2,850 more jobs to cut as it continues its retreat from the phone business.




Microsoft is cutting an additional 2,850 jobs as it further curtails its smartphone efforts, removes support for old OS versions and restructures its sales force.

About 900 of those workers have already been notified, Microsoft said.

The new cuts, which were disclosed in the company’s annual report on Thursday, come on top of the 1,850 layoffs announced in May as the company retreated even further from the phone business.

At this point, Microsoft has essentially shed nearly all of the Nokia mobile phone business that it acquired back in April 2014 for $7.2 billion.
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Reply #394 - 09/03/16 at 07:10:44
 
The sophistication required to NOT walk face first into a bear trap is not something everyone has. Think of the millions of dollars a big company could lose if they couldn't see far enough down the road to be able to project falling sales and adjust their production before sales even fall.
The guy selling lawnmowers down the road needs to see what the local economy is doing, but the international scene might not be something that he needs to understand to avoid losses.
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Reply #395 - 09/03/16 at 15:10:01
 
It's going to be interesting to see how this evolves. It's fine to get rid of low skill low paid jobs, but the people doing those jobs do spend and if they don't spend the thing goes slightly up the chain, as there will be less demand for more skilled workers. Therefore more government support needed to keep the unemployed fed and housed. Businesses both large and small become affected, less dividends to stockholders, ie pension funds and the like. Less contributions to pension funds equals less need for highly paid stock analysts and the like. Less money all round to buy homes. Robotic surgery expands and less need for highly paid surgeons, for those that can afford surgery and whoopee, less need for "medical cockup/misadventure" lawyers. Driverless vehicles, means less need for ego inflated police bullies hassling motorcyclists and truckers. Robotised fighter planes, less need for expensive pilots. Less money to trickle down to the peasants on the bottom and to pay the retired their pensions. We may get twenty years of comparative peace if we are lucky, after that who knows.
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Reply #396 - 09/04/16 at 05:31:12
 

These are big businesses with good "prior knowledge" and they are all girding for a worldwide recession.

Recessions suck, so I am simply glad that my favorite sorts of motorcycle trip costs relatively little money.

Maybe we plan a Recession Special trip and cook over a campfire somewhere nice.
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Reply #397 - 09/04/16 at 06:01:06
 
Well, in the JoG's scoreboard division, here is one more.
I said in 08 that This economic downturn would be different, in that it won't be followed by a Real recovery. So far, I'm right.
To see major corporations taking steps to prepare for the results of the actions of the central banks and their Keynesian economics style actions is just more evidence that I am right.
The order out of chaos crowd must be pretty edgy right now. It's make it or break it time for them. Just one more reason why the Status Quo criminals Can't have Trump. And it's a Big Reason.
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Reply #398 - 09/04/16 at 06:23:09
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/09/android-x86-releases-early-build-nougat-desktop...



Google and Intel may not be doing much work to make sure that Android can run on devices with Intel processors anymore…  but the Android-x86 project continues to release new builds of Android for computers with Intel and AMD chips.

The software is based on Google’s Android Open Source Project (AOSP) code, and it’s still a work in progress. But some of Nougat’s key features, such as split-screen, multi-window mode works, allowing you to interact with two apps on the screen at once.

Both Intel and Google have dropped all efforts to run Android on those funky Microsoft'd current generation Intel chipsets.   Instead, relatively new, powerful Media Tek processors and Qualcomm processors are filling these niches instead.  The Open Source x86 Project and several of the Android as a laptop groups have stepped forward to fill the "low end laptop" gap using repurposed older Intel processors.

"Phone on a PC" hits the back burner at Google, especially seeing that Continuum was a really big flop at Wintel with NOBODY buying their whuppie super duper Win 10 PC phones -- at all.   Nobody wanted them.

The Andromium Superbook Project (Android phones driving a laptop dock) sold out 3x over however, and is in actual real public "sell it as a product" mode in Asia as we speak.  

http://www.xda-developers.com/andromiums-99-superbook-converts-your-android-s...

Jide as Android Laptops are doing well also.   Asia likes the idea of "Phone as a PC" and the idea of "Android Laptops".

So, these may be viable Asian niche products that will be filled by a few small Asian companies, until it takes off on its own in some major fashion with one of the major Asian phone suppliers as a "standard feature" backed up with a stock docking station.    Then it might have some impact in America.

Google will continue to build the abilities into the Nougat and into later OS's so anyone can do it, so perhaps indeed someone in Asia will continue to do it with Android.

That is the Google Alphabet way now, support a good disruptive idea for a bit then let it float or sink on its own merit.

As a "recession product" it makes sense though, so I kinda doubt it will die out on us .....


   
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Reply #399 - 09/04/16 at 08:09:01
 

That is the Google Alphabet way now, support it for a bit then let it float or sink on its own merit.

An approach that would be good used for lots of
Grandiose Ideas.
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Reply #400 - 09/05/16 at 03:19:17
 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3093972/android/pokemon-go-no-go-the-latest-ch...

Pokemon Go no-go: hot new game won't work on Intel Atom-powered phones or Windows phones

   Hey, would Wintel lie to you for much ???

Wintel has stopped all efforts to get Android to run on their devices, which means phones from early last year suddenly can't run popular apps like Pokemon Go.   This will curtail future sales of Intel processors in any of the very few mobile uses where they still exist.

If an app you want is outside the walled garden, fuggetaboutit.

Pokemon Go also won't run on Windows phones, though that's due to Niantic's decision not to support that particular OS at the moment.

The issue arises as Intel pulls back from the smartphone chip market, after failing to catch up with ARM, whose processor designs are in most handsets. Atom chips for mobile devices are already being phased out.

Meanwhile, Dell has stopped selling its Android-based Venue devices that ran on Intel chips. It also won't deliver Android OS upgrades to its existing Venue tablet users.

If you have an Android tablet or smartphone with an Intel Atom chip, things may not get better. Other issues will likely arise with as the number of apps and OS upgrades for Android on Intel Atom decline. Device makers usually work on Android upgrades with Intel, which is scaling back Android development.

There may be exceptions. While Dell has suspended OS updates, Asus has said it will deliver upgrades to Android 6.0 for its Zenfone 2 handsets. But it's not known whether devices will get upgrades to Android 7.0, code-named Nougat.

As it exits the mobile phone market, Intel is also moving away from slate-style tablets, which are experiencing a decline in shipments. Intel will focus on 2-in-1 devices, which can be used as either laptops or tablets.

Intel is still offering a tablet chip code-named Cherry Trail, but the successor to that chip will be Pentium and Celeron chips code-named Apollo Lake, which will be aimed more at PCs and 2-in-1s.

The wholesale changes in Intel's mobile strategy came after the chip maker in April said it would lay off 12,000 people. It is now focusing on areas like connectivity, IoT and data center technologies.
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Reply #401 - 09/05/16 at 03:47:52
 

Got some rumors percolating that Google is gonna push the Pixel brand name harder in the future, using Pixel branded devices to showcase the new Android capable Chrome OS on phones and tablets as well as laptops and PCs.  

This is not real yet, nor has it been verified -- just a rumor at this point in time.

Chrome OS may be the near future "unifying growth medium" for Google OS products and services, with Fuchsia OS being way on out there in the future as a way to more completely extend this effort to the world of IoT, phone, laptop, PC etc when that time actually gets here.  

Fuchsia would be a BRAND NEW code base complete rewrite of the mobile OS systems, using brand new programming language tools that "scale up" much better than the old tools used to build Android.

Chrome OS and Fuchsia have other advantages as Microsoft keeps on funding third party legal attacks on Android (EU regulatory attacks, suits for use of Java, etc).  Microsoft also keeps on extorting money from Android handset builders with threatened lawsuits for various (undefined) patent offenses.  

Google may be acting now to prevent both items from happening out in the future.   A complete rewrite of the mobile OS using Google's own tools (if done in a GNU FOSS environment) would do the trick to stop MS from extorting dollars from handset vendors, siccing the EU on people and potentially outright poaching the new stuff.

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Reply #402 - 09/05/16 at 05:03:02
 

Fuchsia would be a BRAND NEW code base complete rewrite of the mobile OS systems, using brand new programming language tools that "scale up" much better than the old tools used to build Android.


Does that mean the kindle will be replaced?
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Reply #403 - 09/05/16 at 16:30:36
 

Justin,

A Kindle is an Amazon product.   Amazon copied open source Android and modified it to "name brand" it somewhat.

Amazon will do likely do likewise to the next generation of Google OS products as Google keeps them open source and releases the base OS for modification by folks like Amazon.

Your old device will continue working ongoing, however it may stop getting software and security updates.  As to why you need a security update on a Kindle, I dunno, it is just a e-book reader.  

The Chrome / Android / Fuchsia fusion products will gradually take over the market with features that folks want, so you will likely WANT to get another one in the next 5-10 years or so when your battery finally gets weak.
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Reply #404 - 09/05/16 at 17:08:10
 

Microsoft just ran back the date when think they will finally hit their billion mark -- past 2018 is what they are saying now.

It was all BS anyway.  We do NOT know how many Win 10 conversions there really were, but what we do know is that you can start the real Win 10 count clock to running when the Enterprise level conversion is completed next year.   Then you can see MS shrink very cleanly after they have ALL their surviving eggs stacked neatly in one easy to count basket.

By then Win 10 will likely just be Windows and part and parcel of Windows 365 and will only provided on a scheduled monthly / quarterly fee arrangement which pays for keeping the entire Walled Garden updated which will be the only way MS will sell their software any more.

MS is betting their whole company that their walled garden in total is 1) competitive and 2) desirable.   I think they are actually being seen right now as Buggy as Shite and Somewhat Obnoxious, but my take really doesn't count as I am not in the Garden at all (except for a very few Steam games).

Business is now buying more Chromebooks for data entry drone workers, as they can utilize them on a Company Wifi Intra-net under the strict control of their IT department, issuing them to employees who are provided a Company login that they must then use to get the machines to lite up.  

If the Company Chromebook leaves the company's Wifi zone (company premises), it becomes a locked down brick that constantly pings back its current location as if stolen.   This is actually improved security over MS products, and the IT Department has to work a lot less to maintain these Chromebooks vs the more expensive Wintel equipment.

I am looking forward to the third quarter sales reports coming out soon, as the post freebie Win 10 results should start to ring through some by then and we will see what good 'ol pay-me Win 10 is really doing .....   MS marketing lies and exaggerations will continue I am sure (or more dead silence if the news is bad like it has been) but now the MS info will be countered by the Stat Counter type folks who have access to purer, less biased sources of world wide data.

Google is busy talking to and listening to Big Business while MS is busy jerking them around and overcharging them for everything.   Go MS, go .....

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