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Reply #420 - 09/13/16 at 02:02:04
 
Thanks OF, I'll definitely keep this post in mind.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #421 - 09/13/16 at 17:14:39
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/09/breaking-band-microsofts-fitness-tracker-may-do...



ZDNet’s Mary Jo Foley reports her sources say there won’t be a new Microsoft Band this year, and she’s “heard that Microsoft disbanded the group of individuals who were trying to get the Band to run Windows 10.” So it’s possible that we won’t see a major software update for current-gen hardware either.

The Band 2 has a list price of $250, but it’s currently on sale for $75 off. It features a curved AMOLED display, an optical heart rate sensor, motion sensors, ambient light, UV, galvanic skin response, and skin temperature sensors as well as a barometer and microphone.


When it went on sale at 3x the price with only half the features of existing ARM units, we predicted an early demise for this product.   Not early though, two years of being out of date and out of step later ......

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Now we are waiting for this abortion to die "early" as well .....


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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #422 - 09/13/16 at 17:38:08
 

Speaking of abortions, the Samsung Note 7 "exploding in a small ball of fire" while in your hand thing has reached epic recall proportions.    Samsung stock prices dropped 10-15% overnight as this thing broke, and now it must be considered as "properly confirmed" now.    

The issue at root is a vendor based lot of defective batteries, and the recall/replacement costs will put that vendor out of business very shortly, we are fairly sure.





Samsung to limit risk of exploding Note 7 batteries through software update

09/13/2016 at 11:14 AM by Brad Linder 4 Comments

After numerous instances of Samsung Galaxy Note 7 smartphones catching fire, Samsung is in the process of running one of the largest consumer electronics recall programs in recent memory.

Want to make sure your phone doesn’t spontaneously burst in to flames? You should probably stop using it right away and follow instructions from Samsung and/or the place you bought your phone to trade it in for a working model (or a different phone).

But if you haven’t taken advantage of the voluntary recall and replacement program, Samsung may be rolling out a software update soon that could reduce the risk that your phone will explode… but which will also reduce its battery life.

Samsung took out an ad on the front page of South Korean newspaper Seoul Shinmun to let customers know a software update is coming on September 20th. Once installed, the software will stop Galaxy Note 7 batteries from charging once they hit 60 percent capacity.

As the Associated Press notes, it’s not clear if this software update will roll out globally or if it’s only for Galaxy Note 7 users in South Korea.

So, to recap: if you bought Samsung’s latest premium flagship smartphone, there’s a chance that it could catch fire. The FAA advises you not to use it on airplanes. Some airlines are forbidding people from using the phones while in the air, or from checking them in baggage. And Samsung is volunteering to replace all 2.5 million sold to date with non-exploding versions. If you don’t take advantage of that recall, your shiny new $800+ smartphone might get a 40 percent reduction in battery life.

In other words: there’s really no good reason you shouldn’t take advantage of the recall, and plenty of reasons you should.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #423 - 09/13/16 at 19:03:36
 

https://www.engadget.com/2016/05/19/chromebooks-beat-mac-sales-in-early-2016/



According to research firm IDC, more Google Chromebooks were sold in the first quarter of 2016 than all of Apple's Mac line. The milestone marked the first time Google's Chrome OS moved more units than OS X in the United States.

Although IDC doesn't usually separate Chrome OS or Chromebooks from the PC category, the group did confirm the numbers to The Verge, saying "Chrome OS overtook Mac OS in the US in terms of shipments for the first time in 1Q16." The firm noted that Macs sold about 1.76 million units in the first quarter of 2016, meaning Chromebooks sold somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million units or more. Overall, however, PC shipments are on the decline.


So, Chromebook sales just lapped Apple's entire Macbook line (all of it, counted together).  

Next stop, Windows PC space.

Going forward the Chromebook space will include the new Chrome Pixel phones, so Google will be swinging both mobile and laptop volumes together as they go after MS, which is "supposedly" swinging  all their laptop, PC and Win 10 phone volumes together, along with whatever old stuff they can load Win 10 on to that will accept it.


It will be a giant game of liar's poker, since MS likes them funny numbers so well .....


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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #424 - 09/14/16 at 13:10:23
 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/mar/04/microsoft-monopolise-pc-ga...

Microsoft wants to monopolize games development on PC.
We must fight this move.




With its new Universal Windows Platform (UWP) initiative, Microsoft has built a closed platform-within-a-platform into Windows 10, as the first apparent step towards locking down the consumer PC ecosystem and monopolising app distribution and commerce.

In my view, this is the most aggressive move Microsoft has ever made. While the company has been convicted of violating antitrust law in the past, its wrongful actions were limited to fights with specific competitors and contracts with certain PC manufacturers.

This isn’t like that. Here, Microsoft is moving against the entire PC industry – including consumers (and gamers in particular), software developers such as Epic Games, publishers like EA and Activision, and distributors like Valve and Good Old Games.

Microsoft has launched new PC Windows features exclusively in UWP, and is effectively telling developers you can use these Windows features only if you submit to the control of our locked-down UWP ecosystem. They’re curtailing users’ freedom to install full-featured PC software, and subverting the rights of developers and publishers to maintain a direct relationship with their customers.

The specific problem here is that Microsoft’s shiny new “Universal Windows Platform” is locked down, and by default it’s impossible to download UWP apps from the websites of publishers and developers, to install them, update them, and conduct commerce in them outside of the Windows Store.


There is a combo of lockdowns being talked about here, locked down proprietary processor daughterboard accelerators, Win 10 software calls at the daughterboard level, Win 10 calls at the BIOS level, Win 10 calls at the driver level and above.  

MS is locking down the new PC equipment, all partitions and excluding all other normal gaming players, including STEAM.    

If this continues, you will not be able to run "approved games" on anything other than a brand new MS Win 10 machine.

Microsoft’s intentions must be judged by Microsoft’s actions, not Microsoft’s words. Their actions speak plainly enough: they are working to turn today’s open PC ecosystem into a closed, Microsoft-controlled distribution and commerce monopoly, over time, in a series of steps of which we’re seeing the very first. Unless Microsoft changes course, all of the independent companies comprising the PC ecosystem have a decision to make: to oppose this, or cede control of their existing customer relationships and commerce to Microsoft’s exclusive control.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #425 - 09/14/16 at 14:33:59
 

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/19/microsofts_walled_garden_is_no_pleasu...

Pirate MEP: Microsoft's walled garden is no consumer pleasure park
Redmond hijacks control over what users can and can't do with their own PCs




Microsoft is trying to create its own “walled garden”, much to the detriment of consumers, Pirate Party MEP Julia Reda has told El Reg.

Reda was referring to the new unified Microsoft services policy, which came into force at the beginning of this month and covers almost all of the tech goliath’s consumer services.

In it, Microsoft says: “We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the services or using unauthorised hardware peripheral devices.”

In other words, we’ll block any unapproved hardware or software as and when we feel like it.

“Users are now getting accustomed to an idea that – as in other consumer electronics like gaming consoles or smartphones – they do not have full control over what their computers can and cannot do. The great thing about general-purpose computers is that they can be programmed to perform any task we want them to. This feature is what makes computers a tool for empowerment,” she said.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #426 - 09/14/16 at 18:59:54
 

https://games.slashdot.org/story/16/07/26/1417259/steam-on-windows-10-will-get-p
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The source for this opinion is Slashdot, THE Linux resource net forums.

"Microsoft's Universal Windows Platform, or UWP, approach isn't sitting well with many game developers. Four months after criticising UWP ecosystem for being a walled-garden, curtailing "users' freedom to install full-featured PC software, and subverting the rights of developers and publishers to maintain a direct relationship with their customers," Tim Sweeney, co-founder of Epic Games, the studio behind the Gears of War and Unreal franchises has once again lashed out at the Redmond-based company. He alleges that Microsoft plans to make Steam -- the world's largest PC gaming platform, "progressively worse and more broken." in a move to bolster people's reliance on the Windows Store. From a Gadgets 360 report:

"Slowly, over the next five years, they will force-patch Windows 10 to make Steam progressively worse and more broken. They'll never completely break it, but will continue to break it until, in five years, people are so fed up that Steam is buggy that the Windows Store seem like an ideal alternative.

That's exactly what they did to their previous competitors in other areas. Now they're doing it to Steam. It's only just starting to become visible. Microsoft might not be competent enough to succeed with their plan but they are certainly trying," Sweeney said. He adds the outcome of this would be forcing every app and game to be sold through the Windows Store alone. "If they can succeed in doing that then it's a small leap to forcing all apps and games to be distributed through the Windows store. Once we reach that point, the PC has become a closed platform. It won't be that one day they flip a switch that will break your Steam library -- what they're trying to do is a series of sneaky manoeuvres. They make it more and more inconvenient to use the old apps, and, simultaneously, they try to become the only source for the new ones," he claims."
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #427 - 09/15/16 at 13:16:14
 
 
http://liliputing.com/2016/09/leaked-intel-roadmap-shows-chips-2017-2018-coff...

A new Liar's Poker hand, this time from Intel

What is amazing about this thing is that just earlier this week Intel leaked a theory that they were going to 10nm and then to 7nm just like the phone boys were actually about doing right now, but taking several extra years too long to do so compared to the phone boys, yes, but going there all the same.

(despite the fact that 14nm showed Intel a decreasing effectivity wall in the sky that actualy made Intel's 14nm no faster than the old 22nm)



So, what this chart puppy actually shows is 14nm sticking around through 2018/2020.   This actually makes some practical sense as Intel has already converted all their 22nm production lines to 14nm lines and the chipsets produced these lines produce simply cannot process data any faster than the problematical 14nm stuff they are selling right now.

So, any practical speed ups shown in 2018 will ONLY APPLY to Microsoft Win 10 making hardware calls to the hardware accelerator functions that Intel and AMD are quietly building into their daughterboard assemblies.

Since this is all a big game of Liar's Poker from Intel's side of things, I would say this is the likely the real, true card and the earlier card thrown was smoky brown "unbridled optimism".


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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #428 - 09/15/16 at 13:54:37
 

http://liliputing.com/2016/09/run-android-apps-windows-jides-remix-os-player....


THIS IS GOOD, so slow down and pay attention.

Do you have curiosity as to how Remix OS actually looks and feels and works?  

Are you curious about the rapid growth of  the new Chromebooks (with Android in them, natural).

Do you have any future itch to possibly be seeking a "next OS" as you have a growing dislike for Microsoft's arm twisting and grabbyness?    

Or is there something out there in Android Land that you wish you had available on your big PC screen just so you could use it apart from the tiny screen in your pocket?

Or, do you have a closet PC or laptop that you would like to use if you had some useful software that would actually fit into the old, low requirements XP generation machine?  

http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc

All of your "right now, totally REAL and completely FREE" answers are right here at Jide that you can go get like any other .exe application.   Simple to install, easy to trash when your curiosity is satisfied  (or for MickySoft to go trash later on this evening as they will deem it UNAUTHORIZED SOFTWARE when they go check your machine out like they do EVERY NIGHT now-a-days).  

http://www.jide.com/remixos-player



Remix OS Player is free an Android emulator that lets you run an Android environment inside of your current operating system. Just download and run an .exe file to get started.

The Remix OS Player has all the same features you get with Remix OS: it’s a fully functional, customized version of Google Android. The only difference is that it runs as a desktop app, which means you can interact with the Android environment without rebooting your computer.

Any Android apps that work with Remix OS for PC should also work in the Remix OS Player. That means you can play games, use mobile chat apps, or even web browsers, office software, or other apps… although I’m not sure if there’s any real advantage to running the mobile versions of those apps when you can also just fire up their desktop equivalents.

I suspect the primary appeal of Remix OS Player will be the ability to download and play Android games from the Play Store.


The Remix OS Player is SLOW on an old machine, it has to carry the full overhead of MS Windows and Android, so please don't expect it to be Speedy Gonzalez -- just judge what it can do and if you like it any at all.   I found it to be a bit faster than XP on the same XP class machine, but actually quite similar in response speed since it has to go through the same old processor and graphics chip to get to the same old slow display screen.  

If you like it and want it to go at full speed, then re-partion your HD on your modern real machine, make a small new partition and install  

http://www.jide.com/remixos-for-pc.  

THIS FULLY INSTALLED "Jide RemixOS for PC" VARIANT IS SIMILAR PERFORMANCE-WISE TO WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO "SOON" INSIDE A DOCKED, STOCK GOOGLE ANDROID CELL PHONE FLAVOR,  using your cell phone as a PC, so you will actually be getting a preliminary look at what is driving MS to so desperately try to TOTALLY lock down your existing PC behind their doorless windowless walled garden walls,  so completely and totally MS wishes, so very very badly MS wishes.  

 Tongue      ..... walled garden ????   Feels more like a dungeon once you are chained down inside it .....

MS does not want you to look at it, much less install any sort of stuff like this as it totally ends the need for the MS walled garden since you can now buy the MS Office for Android out of the Google Play Store just once and get your Office fix that way, forever.  

No ongoing blood bowl, in other words .....  
If MS cannot chain you to the inner walls of the Walled Garden and bleed you for some small amount monthly, well, then they will likely have no existence going out past say 5-10 years.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #429 - 09/16/16 at 22:54:26
 
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http://semiengineering.com/10nm-versus-7nm/

http://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/GlobalFoundries-Will-Allegedly-Skip-10nm...


Let's talk NANOMETER for a bit.

Global Foundries and IBM dropped a bombshell yesterday, they have Production Line #8 at Global Foundries up and running on the new IBM patented 7nm process (possibly using a non-silicone hybrid technology) for Global Foundries 7nm production.

Yes indeedy, they are ready to take orders and make production runs on that first 7nm line.         Huh   right .....

IBM and Global Foundries have been working very closely together as IBM sold their new technology production development plant to Global Foundries last year with a commitment to bring on 7nm as part of the sale.  They have done so at this point in time.

Where do the other players sit right now?   Qualcomm likes the Samsung 10nm process just fine right now because they have NO HEATING ISSUES and they like that, a lot.   Let somebody else go scout out them Indian uprising villages, Qualcomm has gotten enough arrows in the back lately and wants no more embarrassing "technical leadership issues", ever.   Qualcomm also sez "Let Global and IBM produce 7nm for a full season, then we will talk changeover".

Samsung has their own take on 7nm in progress going at the moment, but is quite happy with selling their "known world-class winner" 10nm set up to the world right now.   Remember, Samsung is still part of the IBM/Global/Samsung technology group, so they got access to whatever Global is building for 7nm right now.    Plus, Samsung is all caught up with their exploding batteries right now and Samsung Mgmt. is somewhat risk adverse at the moment.

TSMC is sitting at 10nm on four of their own lines and is looking to license somebody's proven 7nm technology to be starting their up 7nm changeover efforts up in 2017 (after the new EUV processes prove out to be reliable and stable).   TSMC licenses only known winner technology, TSMC takes no risks on the new stuff and are content to be part of a year late to the party.  

TSMC and Samsung currently own the Apple A-11 SOC generation production contracts for the next two years, BTW ..... all at 10nm lithography.

Intel is completely lost in their own massive clouds of brown butt vapor, so nobody knows really where they are right now except that "always 1-2 years late to the party" is currently a pretty good general Intel planning statement as of late.  

"Non-competitive" is another, harsher way of saying it about Intel.

Roll Eyes

Intel is choking and sputtering .....       Intel is now saying their own "limited 10nm capability will be put out for rent to the highest bidder", intending to find some overeager somebody out there in ARM land who will partner with them to help (pay for) finishing out developing a 10nm production process "the Intel way".    

NOTE PLEASE:   Intel will NOT use their newest 10nm process on their own bread and butter PC CPUs
(that sounds pretty bad, Intel --- low yields and overheating issues again ???).

So far Intel has no takers ......    (people remember Rockchip and Altera entirely too well)

Intel lovers say Intel is totally working on non-silicon and is putting absolutely zero dollars down into silicon land ever again .....  This might be a smart move for a strongly shrinking company like Intel.   Hire you a few new non-silicon gurus away from IBM and ditch them thousands of home grown silicon experts that you already have in house.  Shrink some more, that's the ticket.    

You can save billions RIGHT NOW by cutting all them useless silicon dead heads, you know.     Smiley

Jest circle them wagons with your contractual buddy Microsoft, and don't do anything for the next year or so.      Smiley  Huh      Trust good 'ol Microsoft to carry you through to safely.


Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin    Grin

Part of what causes this confusing mixed bag on future progress is that Apple isn't up in front cracking the whip any more.   Apple made this choice when they sold ARM Holdings to the Japanese Softbank Consortium as Apple now sees all the major players (all the big guys is now including Huawei and Mediatek) as designing their own chipsets now with only a few of the smaller guys actually buying the box stock ARM designs any more.

Apple used to define the state of the art each new year, but that era ended this past year when Apple ceeded their old tech crown to Samsung and Qualcomm.

So you got Intel and Apple dropping back down into the pack (Intel going to the very back grouping of the "slow pack", BTW)  with IBM and Global taking the tech leadership role for a while.   Samsung/Qualcomm is still wearing the current tech crown for the upcoming year off of last year's joint heat pipe 10nm initiatives anyway.

Pundits are now saying 7nm may require a total product redesign of your phone product as 2.2 volts is all that these chipsets will need as they may durn well not even be silicon based any more .....

Initial designs at 7nm may well still be held to 5 volts as a change-over stage, mainly because all the sub suppliers still need to develop reliable 2.2 volt product offerings for batteries and radios etc. etc. etc. and ramp these offerings up into significant production before 2.2 volt component costs can come down.

Big picture time, 20nm is now the low cost leader as it requires no FinFet and requires no multiple pass lithography runs, 14nm is now mostly a "has been intermediate node" and all the latecomers to current high tech progress are jumping directly down to 10nm directly as they can only afford to redesign one (1) lithography move right now and they feel they need to keep 5 volt tech right now as well.

We have a global recession looming in the next 3 years, and all the tech companies are making their plans accordingly.

Look for ARM Holdings to evolve rapidly during this dead time now that Apple's heavy thumb isn't holding them back any more.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #430 - 09/17/16 at 06:04:58
 

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2946124/ibm-reveals-worlds-first-working-7nm-p...          note: article by SEBASTIAN ANTHONY - 9/7/2015

http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2015/07/ibm-unveils-industrys-first-7nm-chip...       note: article by SEBASTIAN ANTHONY - 9/7/2015



The shield of competitive secrecy has now come down on the IBM/Global/Samsung production efforts.   To get any info at all you have to go back to the 2015 first announcement of the new technology.

IBM, working with GlobalFoundries, Samsung, SUNY, and various equipment suppliers, has produced the world's first 7nm chip with functional transistors. While it should be stressed that commercial 7nm chips remain at least two years away, this test chip from IBM and its partners is extremely significant for three reasons: it's a working sub-10nm chip (this is pretty significant in itself); it's the first commercially viable sub-10nm FinFET logic chip that uses silicon-germanium as the channel material; and it appears to be the first commercially viable design produced with extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography.

First, the facts and figures. This is a 7nm test chip, built at the IBM/SUNY (State University of New York) Polytechnic 300mm research facility in Albany, NY. The transistors are of the FinFET variety, with one significant difference over commercialised FinFETs: the channel of the transistor is a silicon-germanium (SiGe) alloy, rather than just silicon. To reach such tiny geometries, self-aligned quadruple patterning (SAQR) and EUV lithography is used.

Somewhat extraordinarily, due to incredibly tight stacking (30nm transistor pitch), IBM claims a surface area reduction of "close to 50 percent" over today's 10nm processes. All told, IBM and its partners are targeting "at least a 50 percent power/performance improvement for the next generation of systems"—that is, moving from 10nm down to 7nm. The difference over 14nm, which is the current state of the art for commercially shipping products, will be even more pronounced.

And now, we wait. 10nm is currently being commercialised by Intel, TSMC, GlobalFoundries, and Samsung. It is much too early to guess when 7nm might hit mass production.

Earlier this week, a leaked document claimed that Intel was facing difficulties at 10nm and that Cannonlake (due in 2016/2017) had been put on hold. In theory, 7nm should roll around in 2017/2018, but we wouldn't be surprised if it misses that target by some margin.

If IBM and friends actually get 10nm and then 7nm out of the door with relative ease, though, then Intel's process mastery might finally be in contention.
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Reply #431 - 09/17/16 at 06:26:50
 
The 10nm and 7 nm references are conductor and input/output connector sizes going into transistors, right? Board traces , etc,,
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Reply #432 - 09/17/16 at 06:35:16
 

Nope.   Actual micro transistor gate feature size.  

Generally you can have fatter leads to the gates at no performance degradation (and as ARM has discovered keeping your leads super skinny leads directly to overheating slowdown issues as shown to them by Intel two years ago, and once again last year)

Leads in and out now tend to be one lithography size larger than the transistor gates on most modern designs now as it has no performance penalty and you can burn them faster and the resulting SOC has improved yields and more robust "abuse ability".
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Reply #433 - 09/17/16 at 06:59:51
 

Did you guys catch this little nugget in the text above?

"Somewhat extraordinarily, due to incredibly tight stacking (30nm transistor pitch), IBM claims a surface area reduction of "close to 50 percent" over today's 10nm processes. All told, IBM and its partners are targeting "at least a 50 percent power/performance improvement for the next generation of systems"—that is, moving from 10nm down to 7nm. The difference over 14nm, which is the current state of the art for commercially shipping products, will be even more pronounced."

These are significant improvements, improvements that would move you straight to the front of the pack it would.    Both Samsung and Qualcomm are kinda sneaky sometimes and both of them do like to do a "world shaking product announcement" especially if they can get a real, "pay me back 3x overall" competitive advantage out of it .....

Sammy and Qualcomm both may be trying to play the other one right now, in other words.  Or else perhaps they need to go forward with another agreement for Samsung to make chipsets for both of them at the new 7nm process node.


This puts Intel really and truly way... way... way... way... behind the industry leaders, you know that, right?
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Reply #434 - 09/18/16 at 12:44:59
 

Other things not mentioned before, non-silicon is FASTER than silicon while using less battery power.
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