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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #525 - 12/03/16 at 17:22:37
 
Like I said, the computer will boot up on battery power it is just the display is dim and red shifted. but when it is plugged in the display only stays on a few seconds then goes to black. You can hear all the internals coming to life and even hear the little windows jingle as it fully boots up, you just cant see anything.
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Reply #526 - 12/03/16 at 17:40:06
 

Can you hook up another display and then F2 your way over to it?

This answers the question "is your display shot, but the rest of the machine OK?"
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #527 - 12/03/16 at 17:49:45
 
Wow.


This is the full list of older Chromebooks that will become Android Play Store ready, fully functional App using machines inside the next six months, thereabouts.

The first Chromebooks that will support the feature are the Acer Chromebook R11 C738T, ASUS Chromebook Flip and Google's Chromebook Pixel (2015). The Chromebook Flip is up and running now on the developer channel. The full list of Chromebooks, Chromeboxes and Chromebases that will be able to run Android apps when the feature becomes available later this year includes:

Acer

Chromebook 11 C740
Chromebook 11 CB3-111 / C730 / C730E / CB3-131
Chromebook R13 CB5-312T
Chromebook 14 CB3-431
Chromebook 14 for Work
Chromebook 15 CB5-571 / C910
Chromebook 15 CB3-531 / CB3-532
Chromebox CXI2
Chromebase 24

Asus

Chromebook C200
Chromebook C201
Chromebook C202SA
Chromebook C300SA
Chromebook C300
Chromebox CN62
Chromebit CS10

AOpen

Chromebox Commercial
Chromebase Commercial 22"

Bobicus

Chromebook 11

CDI

eduGear Chromebook M Series
eduGear Chromebook K Series
eduGear Chromebook R Series

CTL

Chromebook J2 / J4
N6 Education Chromebook
J5 Convertible Chromebook

Dell

Chromebook 11 3120
Chromebook 13 7310

Edxis

Chromebook
Education Chromebook

Google

Chromebook Pixel (2015)

Haier

Chromebook 11
Chromebook 11e
Chromebook 11 G2

Hexa

Chromebook Pi

HiSense

Chromebook 11

Lava

Xolo Chromebook

HP

Chromebook 11 G3 / G4 / G4 EE
Chromebook 14 G4
Chromebook 13

Lenovo

100S Chromebook
N20 / N20P Chromebook
N21 Chromebook
ThinkCentre Chromebox
ThinkPad 11e Chromebook
N22 Chromebook
Thinkpad 13 Chromebook
Thinkpad 11e Chromebook Gen 2 / Gen 3

Medion

Akoya S2013
Chromebook S2015

M&A

Chromebook

NComputing

Chromebook CX100

Nexian

Chromebook 11.6"

PCMerge

Chromebook PCM-116E

Poin2

Chromebook 11

Samsung

Chromebook 2 11" - XE500C12
Chromebook 3

Sector 5

E1 Rugged Chromebook

Senkatel

C1101 Chromebook

Toshiba

Chromebook 2
Chromebook 2 (2015)

True IDC

Chromebook 11

Viglen

Viglen Chromebook 11



If I was buying a future proof device I would get a Chromebook with a touch screen and a larger amount of systems memory, such as will become more prevalent next year, as will a brand new crop of better processors and a much faster, much better type of combined "SSD" / systems memory.

MS is right to be very afraid, and Intel is seemingly headed for the "self-driving car" hills just as fast as they can go right now.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #528 - 12/03/16 at 19:11:38
 

https://chromeunboxed.com/chromebooks-with-play-store-no-longer-compatible-with-
microsoft-android-apps/

Microsoft reacts, in a future fear knee-jerk fashion that totally belies all their "we love Linux" BS they have pushed out of late.

MS had actually yanked all their on-line Android Office Apps and published a schedule for the yearly cost for you to use your existing MS Word files, not thinking that they were   1) breaking the law   2) breaking their own license agreements   3) cutting their own throats.




=====================================    then just one day later .......


Then, in true Micky fashion, one day later they said "Woopsie, we really didn't mean it" and pulled it all back.

https://chromeunboxed.com/microsoft-office-apps-will-continue-to-run-on-compatib
le-chromebooks/

It does not take a rocket scientist to read this statement and figure out that something "incompatible" will shortly be found with all Chromebook based "non-Office 365" installations.

Read it and realize that MS does not care to blatantly break the law or break their own license agreements, so they still have to figure out some "incompatibilities" to blame it all on.   Some are being written and pushed to your machines as we speak ......  and yes, even on Chrome an automatic update can be pushed by the vendor.

"Our strategy has not changed. Office for Android is supported on Chrome OS devices via the Google Play Store. While Google Play on Chrome OS is in beta, we are partnering with Google to deliver the best experience for Chromebook users and plan to make the apps available on all compatible devices by general availability."

– Microsoft Office Team



Micky has seen the future, and the future is Chromebooks, tons and tons of them, running free Apps both on-line and local loaded.    MS just realized this and karked in their drawers.

MS simply hasn't figured out a way to make lots of money off of Chromebooks yet.


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Thoughts at this point        MS is suddenly showing a willingness to work with Google to get their old software fully ARM/ANDROID acceptable.   Joining the Open Source FOSS associations and the Linux Foundations are moves that say MickeySoft realizes that they cannot go off into the future by themselves anymore.

Microsoft and Intel also realize they are NON-competitive (both combined and individually) right now and each has picked them a pathway off into the future that requires them to trim all the dead flesh off of their shrinking companies and to FOCUS all their energy on just surviving, simply by doing what does work for them (makes a dollar) and cutting all the rest.

Both Intel and Microsoft are seeking to form up groups of other older companies intending to break into these new growth industries.

The impact of the new 3-D memory types on this shifting equation is going to be MASSIVE --- it is shipping now and is going through the industry like grease through a goose wherever it has landed .....

What we are told by HP and their early systems tests are that a lesser processor product equipped with gigabytes of the new stuff will outperform today's best of the best by a thousand times or more.   This is a very significant thing in an already shaky industry.

Andromeda is a real word now, and it was supposed to ship inside the planned Nexus 7 (renamed Pixel) replacement tablet.   This tablet has been delayed (or cancelled ???) by disagreements on meeting the shifting price and volume and features concerns between Google and their supplier.  

Google has wisely decided not to make it or ship it as it is, but instead to start a new project with a supplier who can perform to rapidly shifting agreements.   Huawei  also supposedly choked on leaving their name off of the product, and having it to be only known as a "Pixel" or "Andromeda" device as this was not the case when they signed up for the "Huawei Nexus" moniker.

Look to see lots of existing Wintel tech being sold cheap for Christmas, since if it isn't sold soon it will get strongly devalued next year as MASSIVE CHANGE waves come rolling through making the current tech stuff less desirable.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #529 - 12/04/16 at 05:59:17
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 12/03/16 at 17:40:06:
Can you hook up another display and then F2 your way over to it?

This answers the question "is your display shot, but the rest of the machine OK?"


Yes. I just tried it and it works. But it's not like I can take an external monitor to work with me every day. LOL. Do you think I can possibly just change out the laptop monitor? If so, any idea where I can pick one up?
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Reply #530 - 12/04/16 at 12:43:24
 

You are in for an ugly surprise .....   buy a new screen or a complete laptop same super old grade of over the hill stuff ....

.... either one is about the same price.

While you are on-line shopping, you will see something else that tickles your fancy at a good price, yep, simply too good to pass up ......

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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #531 - 12/04/16 at 12:53:22
 

https://liliputing.com/2016/12/wine-bring-support-windows-apps-android.html

Wine to bring free support for Windows apps to Android

Mickysoft is seeing the writing on the wall ..... Andromeda (or whatever Google calls it) is going to steal a goodly chunk of their world because it will cost half or less than what a Win 10 machine will cost.

MS is busy figuring a way to make some big bucks supplying Office to Android/Andromeda/Chromebooks by some hook or crook fashion.    Micky has said that within a year they will have a Win 10 "compatibility layer"  available for Android and Chromebooks.

Betcha they are considering lifting some FOSS code from these guys who have already done it .....

Android x86 Project and Wine and Codeweavers/Crossover Office

Please note:   What Mickey wants is for you to buy a COMPLETELY SEPARATE license to do Office on a single Android or Chromebook device.   What these other guys already do is to allow you to install the disc you already have as the disc represents your license to use that you bought from MS.   Micky is now planning on getting a call from that new installation and to shut it down completely due to "incompatibility".

(Mickey don't like a that ..... he's counting on picking your pocket yet again)





Please, Please, Please ---  remember that LIBRE OFFICE opens and saves all the MickeySoft formats --- even the old ones that Mickey itself won't open or save any more.    Mickey uses a very complex folder of HTML items to make up your document now-a-days, simply because they had to make it more complex each time they forced you to go buy another one.

Libre Office runs on all OS systems FOR FREE and it does what you need in a clear, simple, stable fashion --- no monkey games with HAVING to go buy a new one every 3-4 years and you having to learn it all over again as Mickey so loves to do.    

Some government branches have now standardized on the ODF format (Open Document Format) as it runs better on old machines which is what that they have and fits better on old smaller hard drives.  

Free doesn't hurt their feelings either .....
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #532 - 12/07/16 at 19:14:20
 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/tiriasresearch/2016/12/06/is-amd-licensing-radeon...

Intel and AMD are renewing their cross licenses for x86 processor building and for GPU technologies, but this time more closely binding the two companies much closer together.    

Reason?   Automotive and the fierce competition with Nvidia over that budding self-driving industry.

A side benefit will be much better on board Radeon GPUs on Intel chipsets (and Intel gets to lay off a thousand people they used to have working on their own GPU technologies) IF the two companies can meld together well and work hand in hand without friction.
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #533 - 12/07/16 at 19:21:39
 

https://liliputing.com/2016/12/qualcomm-says-arm-chips-will-support-legacy-win32
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Qualcomm and Microsoft: ARM chips will support desktop Windows software in 2017

It remains to be seen what kind of performance hit we might see when ARM chips try to use x86 emulation to run Windows software, but Microsoft’s demo shows a system with a Snapdragon chip running Adobe Photoshop, Microsoft Word, World of Tanks Blitz, and playing video with no problems.

But since Microsoft hasn’t been all that successful in getting app developers to port legacy Windows apps to the new Universal Windows Platform (so that they can run on desktops, tablets, smartphones, and game consoles with x86 or ARM processors), there are still millions of Windows apps that wouldn’t otherwise be able to run on devices with ARM processors.

It’s also not clear whether ARM-based computers will be significantly cheaper than models with Intel or AMD chips, or if they’ll offer better battery life or other benefits. But it does seem like Intel is about to get some serious competition in the PC space… after largely giving up on competing in the smartphone space.


As Intel moves on away off into automotive land, look to see Qualcomm swing in to fill the vacuum left behind.

Also note that MediaTek is moving in on Automotive land as well, offering their own 10 core solutions to the automotive problems of the moment.

As these folks bend their products to compete against Intel (or replace Intel as the case may be) look to see less expensive items become more readily available again.

All the major computer/phone makers are now seeking other pathways into new growth industries as the PC and the Phone industries hit their peaks and begin to decline.

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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #534 - 12/08/16 at 19:29:55
 

http://www.zdnet.com/article/npd-chromebooks-outsell-windows-laptops/

Soon, the holidays will be upon us.

It is time to recap this thread over the last full year.   Remember, Android/Chrome vs Windows 10 was the topic.    Well, that topic really isn't going to apply next year since all the names are changing, so let's recap it as it is right now with all the names the way they started.



Many people have resisted the idea that Chromebooks really were growing in popularity. Now, less five years after the first commercial Chromebook, the Samsung Series 5 and Acer Chromebook went on sale, NPD, the global retail research group, is reporting that Chromebook sales in June and early July had exceeded "sales of Windows notebooks ... passing the 50 percent market share threshold."

'Nough said -- Intel is leaving and MS has joined in with the Linux boys and Windows 10 is gonna limp along on ARM chipsets next year.  

I think Chromebooks may well have won, but that doesn't really affect all of us old equipment users for very much, now does it?


Roll Eyes           Merry Christmas, everybody !!!!
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Re: Android/Chrome vs Windows 10
Reply #535 - 12/10/16 at 11:29:02
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 12/04/16 at 12:43:24:

You are in for an ugly surprise .....   buy a new screen or a complete laptop same super old grade of over the hill stuff ....

.... either one is about the same price.

While you are on-line shopping, you will see something else that tickles your fancy at a good price, yep, simply too good to pass up ......

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Don't have to worry about it anymore. My wife bought me a new laptop for my birthday today.  Cheesy Grin
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Reply #536 - 12/10/16 at 11:47:58
 

Aw Gee ......

My wife just buys me motorcycles.    What did she buy you ??
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Life insurance...

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She buys that too, plus a quick hazard policy taken out for fun mountain trips .....
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For your wife, to show her that you love her and care about her worries ....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.life360.android.safetymapd&hl=
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Give her a better tool to know where your butt is located (except when you are off the grid up in the high mountains, of course).

Now whenever your dot stops moving (or disappears completely) she can worry even more effectively .....

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A bit more practical, if you are on a group trip and get separated, you can maybe find the other group a bit easier.

This has only happened 6-8 times on these Savage trips .....         Wink
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