https://liliputing.com/2017/05/microsoft-surface-laptop-windows-10-s-leaks-slightly-ahead-official-launch.html
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https://liliputing.com/2017/05/microsoft-surface-laptop-designed-students.htmlhttps://www.theverge.com/2017/5/2/15506378/microsoft-windows-10-s-os-operatin... Today is Windows S dayWindows Cloud now has a name, Windows S (S for School, maybe ???)
Well now, time has come to sort the peanuts from the shells so to speak. First, this is an ANNOUNCEMENT of a new thing which is coming supposedly this fall. (unlike ARM stuff, which isn't mentioned for much until it is available and being sold at Amazon in bulk)

OK, what is known and real at this point in time? The only thing real at this point in time is a $999 Surface Pro laptop from MS and it is known to be running a cut down, locked down, limited version of Windows 10 called Windows S.
Cut down, locked down and
Limited means you have to have only
S certified softwares that can run on the machine, softwares that can only be bought from the MS Store. S Books won't run anything without this MS Store Win S Origin Certification, so forget about your existing already bought software library
as it won't run on S Books. Forget about downloading any misc. softwares from various places too.
Can you say "NO GAMES, KIDDIES" three times fast (unless the games come from MS that is)?
You can upgrade from Windows S to Win 10 at will, so I would think what we are also actually seeing is the phase in of the yearly subscription model on all Office 360 softwares which is taking place right now. The rub will be that the Win S softwares are going to HAVE TO BE resource/feature downsized to fit the minimalistic hardware that will eventually be shipped as the real student level Win S devices.
So, we got no real devices right now at all, instead we got a $999 surface machine with a new stencil job on the lid and we got NO IDEA about the pricing structure for the required Office 360 S subscription package needed at the end of YEAR 1 nor do the School System Administrators have any costing or structure for the administrative softwares required to make up what is currently a "totally bare shelves" education software system.
https://liliputing.com/2017/05/microsoft-surface-laptop-designed-students.htmlBut in Microsoft’s case, this is a bit of a gamble: the Surface Laptop will be one of the first devices to ship with Windows 10 S, an unproven platform. One sure way to make it more attractive to first-time users would have been to offer an affordable Surface product that comes with the OS. Priced at $999 and up, it’s likely that the Surface Laptop won’t appeal to education customers or folks that aren’t die-hard Windows fans…
Does this sound kinda like assbackwards implementation and "built to fail" or perhaps it sounds kinda like it is just a MS PR Department Yak Yak thing so they can say to their shareholders that MS is "competing hard against Chromebooks"?
Compare and contrast to the directions taken by Chromebooks and Google (entire PlayStore is now available to students, School Administrators Education Package is free, Google Apps are free and year 2 yearly maintenance/upgrade costs to the school system for the whole thing are minimal and are done in an inexpensive per seat fashion.
Chromebooks are REAL, they are rugged and light and DURABLE. Take it home and use it and
beat the hell out of it, you can't hurt your saved data, ever. The Chromebook by itself is an education experience for the kiddies that they have proven that they can use and master.
The Web becomes their oyster and they have proven they can learn and thrive just fine on a $189 Chromebook. No limitations, no lock downs --- side load whatever you want (and the kiddies certainly know how to do just that).
In contrast MS S Surfacebook is expensive, light and fragile (not student durable at all right now).
Students are locked out of their OS unless they want to go BUY some new stuff from the MS Store. When it gets here I don't think kiddies are going to be pleased with how far MS had to choke things down to get it to work on a real world minimalistic $189 Win S machine.
I predict just another mild 2-3 month blip in the sales of Chromebooks. Since these Win S things are REALLY REALLY locked down, loading a lightweight Linux on the Win S's corpse will require a class action lawsuit or two (and mebbe a BIOS upgrade) to clear the pathway to be doing that simple reuse of the hardware.
And folks really should be considering that before they go blithely hopping into that whirring MS wood chipper.
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First pricing is in from HP and Acer at $299 (almost the exact same price as a Win 10 laptop)https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/5/2/15517120/windows-10-s-comput...HP’s laptop is a new version of the ProBook x360 Education Edition, a rugged laptop with an 11.6-inch, 1366 x 768 display, Intel Celeron processor, 4GB of RAM, and 64GB of storage. The laptop typically sells for $329 or more with full Windows 10, but it’s on sale right now for $299, so it’s not clear how great a deal this Windows 10 S model is going to be. Wow, ON SALE right now for a big $30 cheaper than a Win 10 laptop normally costs ..... heck, you will pay twice that $30 amount per year in the REQUIRED yearly maintenance subscription costs which start after year 1.NEWS FLASH !!!! The internet briefly showed ONE (1) older $189 HP Streambook's picture listed as a Win S machine, but it was actually a sarcastic troll ware listing that when followed through all the links actually went to a $300 on sale Amazon listing for a standard Win 10 laptop.
AVOID Windows S in other words ..... As it is now, simply AVOID Windows S Remember, you can buy a real Win 10 laptop cheaper when they are on sale .....
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Wait for it ...... the MS talking head apologists now say that the real $189 Win S student machines will supposedly run on Qualcomm and "other ARM processors"
...... when/if they ever really arrive in Win S land ......
again, they say this Mickysoft apologist bullshite expecting us to believe that it is actually going to happen ..... Remember Qualcomm has 3-4 large Multi-10's of Billions of Dollars "restraint of trade" cases going on against them in South Korea, China and Indonesia and Qualcomm might simply lack the attention span and the investment $$$ right now to play "go take over the world" with Mickysoft.