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Re: Against Trump
Reply #60 - 02/26/16 at 18:43:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/26/16 at 18:22:56:
We'd be Way ahead if we had a second party.


I say we need no party......

The most votes, prez.
Second most votes, VP.
Ditto US senators, etc.
No primary, just an election.....
But of course that would remove the medias cash cow and the lobbies ability to buy a candidate/party so readily  Grin
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #61 - 02/26/16 at 18:46:27
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/26/16 at 18:22:56:
We'd be Way ahead if we had a second party.



you know, some of those scary socialist countries in Europe have many many political parties, I think Italy has like 15, the UK has at least 4 different viable political parties.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #62 - 02/26/16 at 19:26:46
 
Must I explain?
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #63 - 02/27/16 at 06:00:20
 
Rubio: Trump is a con-artist.
Reporter: He's leading in all the polls and has won primaries.
Rubio: He's a very good con-artist.

I have to agree with Marco, Trump has manged to fool the low wage, union member, traditional Democratic voter as well as high wage college educated professionals.

I don't think Trump will be the diaster Obama has been. For one thing, Congressmen are egotistical and will get pissed off and fight Trump as soon as he calls them a name, which will half of Congress by January 28th I'd guess....

You think Senators Rubio or Cruz are going to do anything to help Trump? Ain't gonna happen. They'll work against him.

So, for us the potential is that nothing will really get done in Congress which is a good thing for the most part. The more Congress tries to help, the more money they take from me.

However, my fear of Trump is he'll turn onto Obama Jr. and executive action himself silly.

I don't have any choices thos election!.....

Maybe Jog's right: put Bernie in office and let him "Bern" the country to the ground.  We'll throw the remaining liberals on the smoldering ruins and start over from scratch.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #64 - 02/27/16 at 06:37:52
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:00:20:
Maybe Jog's right: put Bernie in office and let him "Bern" the country to the ground.  We'll throw the remaining liberals on the smoldering ruins and start over from scratch.

That'll teach me...  Huh
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #65 - 02/27/16 at 06:38:12
 
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Rubio: Trump is a con-artist.



And everyone else in the race race (with the possible exception of Carson) isn't a con- artist ???

Pot, meet Kettle. Roll Eyes
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #66 - 02/27/16 at 07:34:05
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:37:52:
WebsterMark wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:00:20:
Maybe Jog's right: put Bernie in office and let him "Bern" the country to the ground.  We'll throw the remaining liberals on the smoldering ruins and start over from scratch.

That'll teach me...  Huh


It very well might........by default.

I know, I know, the BIG S word, where it has never worked, yada, yada, yada.......

The words of Nelson Mandela, "Wealth without humility is toxic"

Maybe, just maybe, we could collectively address why our middle class society has almost vanished.
Is it such a bad idea that a governments job should put policies in place that directs most of its energies into assuring a strong middle class, instead of the fringe groups and the wealthy?

Access to HC and education would be paramount, once we agree on that, we can argue how to get there.....
Providing that HC, we now hold them responsible for their own choices, we all like pro choice, remember.....
They will be charged for their crappy diets, drinking too much, drugs, obesity from lack of activity, sloth, etc....
For the betterment of strengthening our society for all.

Ditto for education.....

You want to be a doctor, great, you pull the grades and apply yourself, we will provide you the tools ( $$$$$$ ).
Once you become a doctor, you work so many years in a state clinic, before you go out on your own....
We can do this with many graduate degrees.

We teach trades, with payback being to the states needs first.

Some still need more assistance, fine, we provide state run stores where you go to get your food, products, etc.....
No more unaccountable funds that get spent on crap....

And if you are able body, you work doing road repair, building upkeep, etc, for state facilities, etc....

Accountability for all, not just the government, but those who use its resources ( all of which its citizens fund ) as a means to living their lives.

You give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach him to fish, he can now provide for himself, and eat for the rest of his life......

PS: However, ya gotta buy your own friggin pole  Grin

 
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #67 - 02/27/16 at 07:52:31
 
WebsterMark wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:00:20:
Rubio: Trump is a con-artist.
Reporter: He's leading in all the polls and has won primaries.
Rubio: He's a very good con-artist.

I have to agree with Marco, Trump has manged to fool the low wage, union member, traditional Democratic voter as well as high wage college educated professionals.
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polls show (if  you can believe them, who knows) that Trump appeals most to uneducated voters, not to say he doesn't have some educated supporters but that's not his core base
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #68 - 02/27/16 at 08:04:07
 
No, I'm shocked at the high income level of Trump supporters.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #69 - 02/27/16 at 08:06:24
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:37:52:
WebsterMark wrote on 02/27/16 at 06:00:20:
Maybe Jog's right: put Bernie in office and let him "Bern" the country to the ground.  We'll throw the remaining liberals on the smoldering ruins and start over from scratch.

That'll teach me...  Huh


Ever see  last of the Mohicans? Remember when Hawkeye shoots the Major Duncan Heyward(?) so he doesn't burn to death? We'd do you that favor!
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #70 - 02/27/16 at 08:08:58
 
You give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach him to fish, he can now provide for himself, and eat for the rest of his life......


You build a man a fire, he's warm for the night.
You set a man on fire, he's warm for life.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #71 - 02/27/16 at 08:16:16
 
I think we ask politicians to give up too much privacy.  It's stupid to ask them to publicize tax returns.  Give me the old days when private lives didn't matter - such as who JFK had sneaked into the Whitehouse or who FDR was doing on the side.  All that had nothing to do with how well they governed.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #72 - 02/27/16 at 08:24:12
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 02/27/16 at 08:16:16:
I think we ask politicians to give up too much privacy.  It's stupid to ask them to publicize tax returns.  Give me the old days when private lives didn't matter - such as who JFK had sneaked into the Whitehouse or who FDR was doing on the side.  All that had nothing to do with how well they governed.


Hummers don't count then?  Grin
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #73 - 02/27/16 at 08:25:01
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/27/16 at 08:08:58:
You give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach him to fish, he can now provide for himself, and eat for the rest of his life......


You build a man a fire, he's warm for the night.
You set a man on fire, he's warm for life.


Give a man asbestos, he builds himself a suit  Grin
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #74 - 02/27/16 at 08:29:52
 
There was even rumor the Dwight Eisenhower had an affair with his femal driver in England during WW II.
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