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Re: Against Trump
Reply #75 - 02/27/16 at 08:43:52
 
It kinda implies that
If you're not a saint, you can't do the job.

Yet,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v5OJPeHCmhA

And nobody goes to jail.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mr2oQExxGmU

They spent time in the Penalty Box?
Really?


Where do they steal the children?
The governor signed the bill in response to the case of 5-year-old Rilya Wilson — the foster child who was missing for more than one year before anyone noticed.

Well, where would you go to get children if you needed one nobody would be overly concerned about? If they aren't in school yet, and someone is getting a check for feeding them, and you offer them an envelope with cash and they say nothing, bye...

The level of corruption is beyond the grasp of most. The reality we have been Taught exists, doesn't. The truth of what is Really going on is way past the ability of good people to even grasp without long ,deep study.
Guys, Please Remember what has happened that you have seen.
The news that they pump At us, over and over, isn't the important stuff. The things we see once or twice, then they drop it and start pumping something else, don't forget That item. It's often a puzzle piece.

Remember that guy who was a coach or assistant, I wanna say Penn State, can't remember the guys name, but, I believe that he w a s effectively a supplier. He used his position to get kids excited and got them in comprising situations and manipulated them into agreeing to engage in behaviors that they didn't Really want to do.
I'm not unable to see a possibility of international connections.

I totally like what Cynthia McKinney did. I respect her, tremendously. I don't know what all her political ideology is, but, she's CORRECT here and Very gutsy. Id really like to play pool and have a beer with her. I Might even let her win.
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Reply #76 - 02/27/16 at 11:36:50
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.h...


Not a single one of the republican politicians, donors, or advisors mentioned or quoted in this article said that they thought Trump might be bad for the country. They are all worried that a Trump presidency would be bad for THEM. Scumbags, every one. They just don't seem to understand that Trump is doing well 'cause the voters hate Them.

McConnell even said that it might be better for the republicans in the senate if Hillary won. Then they could campaign as the only folks that could protect the country from her.  The way they protected the country from Obama Grin Roll Eyes
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Reply #77 - 02/27/16 at 17:49:53
 
I'm not sure how the electoral college really works, but I'm concerned that it could be used to
Protect US from our Obvious Ignorance,
Should we actually elect Trump.
We have seen the arrogance of D.C.
We have watched as They have passed legislation that the majority didn't want, saying,
You'll thank us later.
Nope, no thanks.
Repeal the trade deals.
Audit the fed.
Audit the Pentagon.
Hang the traitorous bastards.

Really, nobody has Anything to say about Rumsfeld? Time in the
Penalty Box? Really?
And it's common knowledge for the awake, that drug money is laundered through some big banks and wall street.
Iran Contra ended it?
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Reply #78 - 02/28/16 at 06:34:05
 
oldNslow wrote on 02/27/16 at 11:36:50:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.h...


Not a single one of the republican politicians, donors, or advisors mentioned or quoted in this article said that they thought Trump might be bad for the country. They are all worried that a Trump presidency would be bad for THEM. Scumbags, every one. They just don't seem to understand that Trump is doing well 'cause the voters hate Them.

McConnell even said that it might be better for the republicans in the senate if Hillary won. Then they could campaign as the only folks that could protect the country from her.  The way they protected the country from Obama Grin Roll Eyes


If I thought Trump was THE GUY to break the stranglehold the business of politics has on politics, I'd be all in, but I don't think he is. I'd love to be proven wrong.

It's one thing to say you've been in boardrooms all across the world negotiating deals with the toughest characters the business world has to offer but business leaders don't have armies behind them plus they can be counted on to make decisions based mostly on profit & loss etc...  

World leaders don't care about money, they care about power. Money is just a fringe benefit of being in power. It's why Hilary wanted so desperately to be Senator, Secy of State and now President. She's lived her entire life granting leave to others. She's got the Royalty mentality. I'm afraid Trump won't be able to comprehend that the end goal of the other guy across the table isn't cash. Maybe he'll learn very quick. Maybe not.
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Reply #79 - 02/28/16 at 07:25:35
 
Is there a fix without total collapse ?

Such a strange year with its many new formed alliances, and separations of other old stalwarts.....

It seems to me the power, and influence, has long been gathered, and shared, with a commonality of understanding.....  
And parsed out accordingly.

Not sure where this will end, but I am certain things will change eventually, as this anger and distrust will grow, not abate....
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #80 - 02/28/16 at 07:59:00
 
Web wrote:

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If I thought Trump was THE GUY to break the stranglehold the business of politics has on politics, I'd be all in, but I don't think he is. I'd love to be proven wrong.


I totally agree with that. Trump makes me nervous. That said, if the election comes down to him and Hillary he's getting my vote.

I think there is a possibility that that might not happen though. Expect the Character Assassination Machine to get cranked up in the next few weeks. The establishment republicans will throw anything that they can think of at Trump between now and the convention. I'm sure that Donald has some skeletons in his closet that the attack dogs will try to use. They will even make sh*t up if they think they can get away with it, Might not work, but if it does, or if they can figure out a way to jigger the convention and deny Trump the nomination, then they will run some worthless Rino again and hand the election to Hillary.

And there is always the possibility of an "accident" or a sudden unexplained "death by natural causes". I think Trump would be wise to decline any invites for a hunting trip.




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Re: Against Trump
Reply #81 - 02/28/16 at 08:20:26
 
In the back of my mind I think we are all going to be surprised at what transpires in the end.....

If you look at the national polls Sanders does better than Hillary, against the republican candidates, and has the highest trust rating of them all.

If you take all the votes of the republican candidates, that are not for Trump, and give them to the last standing candidate in a two-way race, where the debate will be much more detailed in their collective plans as a president, I wonder if he can sway those like me to believe in him.....

Hillary has a much bigger task running against a candidate that won't hesitate to point out her lack of trust issues, big bank fees, etc, where her vast right wing crap won't work against the independent voters, that will decide the outcome......
If, she even gets that far.

I still think Uncle Joe will appear when/if indictments come down of criminal wrongdoing re: email, Clinton Foundation/State Department conflicts.

Will this race be determined by running mate?

Seems all those looking to have a shot rightt now, are pretty dang old to first term  Grin
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #82 - 02/28/16 at 08:29:21
 
I heard some scuttle butt yesterday that disturbs me.  Supposedly the Kochs have raised $125 Million to fight Trump with this scenario:
If Trump really hammers it Tuesday, again supposedly, Mitt Romney is primed and waiting to announce his candidacy, and compete in the big winner take all states like Florida, Ohio, California, et al as the primary season goes on, and contest at the convention for the nomination
I think this is stupid - I just don't get this hatred of Trump, other than the fact that the establishment knows they can't control him.
I think that Trump can still prevail, even if Romney does get in.  Romney can't win - he had his chance, blew it, and needs to stay put.
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Reply #83 - 02/28/16 at 08:39:18
 
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 I just don't get this hatred of Trump, other than the fact that the establishment knows they can't control him.


I think that's it in a nutshell. Trump is not a member of their club, and the republican party would rather lose the election than allow him to become president.
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Reply #84 - 02/28/16 at 08:39:32
 
One other thought:
Many of the establishment Republicans fear a rout in the general election if Trump is the nominee, hearkening back to 1964 when Barry Goldwater got smashed, and took down Congressional elections with him.  That began the era of the 1960s when the Dems were totally dominant until Nixon was elected in 1968.
However, this is a different time.  The 1964 election occurred in the immediate aftermath of the assassination of JFK, who had been the most popular President of the 20th century.  No insult intended, but I think the Dems could have run Satan in 1964 and he would have won.  Obama is certainly no JFK, nor is his legacy the same.
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Re: Against Trump
Reply #85 - 02/28/16 at 10:21:30
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 02/28/16 at 08:39:32:
One other thought:
Many of the establishment Republicans fear a rout in the general election if Trump is the nominee, hearkening back to 1964 when Barry Goldwater got smashed, and took down Congressional elections with him.  That began the era of the 1960s when the Dems were totally dominant until Nixon was elected in 1968.
However, this is a different time.  The 1964 election occurred in the immediate aftermath of the assassination of JFK, who had been the most popular President of the 20th century.  No insult intended, but I think the Dems could have run Satan in 1964 and he would have won.  Obama is certainly no JFK, nor is his legacy the same.


Well they might be running Satan's wife  Grin

On the scuttlebutt, that would only seem to further Trump's support.
I base this on the fact when the guy says the most asinine and PC incorrect stuff, and the opposition (press, establishment, etc) think he finally stepped in it, he only comes out stronger  Shocked

Guess the dems, and their super delegates, have already figgered out a way to void the candidate they "party" doesn't want  Grin

EDIT: BTW, if the they did this it would only further prove the effect of BIG money on our system and incite additional forces against the growing anger that is already proving to perhaps be the demise of its influence in the future.....
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Reply #86 - 02/28/16 at 10:41:54
 
Supposedly, again. Mitch McConnell has been having luncheons with Republican Senators who have to defend their seats this year and told them that if Trump is the nominee, to go full steam ahead with attacks against him.  McConnell is drinking the Kool Aide and is scared crapless about losing the Presidency and control of Congress.  He would rather see Hillary as POTUS if the Rs can keep control of Congress.
What these old farts don't get is that Trump can win in a landslide if the party gets behind him.  But then, we can back full circle to the fact that the old boys club can't control Trump.
I would think that would make Trump attractive to a boat load of common folks who want Washington to be distanced from the outside influences ( spelled "money) that most politicians have to have to fund campaigns.
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Reply #87 - 02/28/16 at 13:24:58
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 02/28/16 at 10:41:54:
Supposedly, again. Mitch McConnell has been having luncheons with Republican Senators who have to defend their seats this year and told them that if Trump is the nominee, to go full steam ahead with attacks against him.  McConnell is drinking the Kool Aide and is scared crapless about losing the Presidency and control of Congress.  He would rather see Hillary as POTUS if the Rs can keep control of Congress.
What these old farts don't get is that Trump can win in a landslide if the party gets behind him.  But then, we can back full circle to the fact that the old boys club can't control Trump.
I would think that would make Trump attractive to a boat load of common folks who want Washington to be distanced from the outside influences ( spelled "money) that most politicians have to have to fund campaigns.


Mitch should follow JB away from politics and into the nearest tanning salon, mercy, he is a ghost!
And a fool.
To announce no action will be taken on any appointee for SCJ is reckless, showing a lack of wisdom, and discipline, from leadership.

People are tired of these stupid shenanigans, and want HONEST dialogue ( not PC babble either ) but hard, cold facts that deal with reality.
This "If I don't say Muslim Terrorist, they will get butt hurt and stop" crap, and all its supporting cast, has got to go away, far away....  

Life is real, NOT a Hollywood movie where we MUST make sure every jerk gets a statute because of some cockamamie lame excuse...

Life has no prepared script, or rehearsal, we all get one act  Roll Eyes
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Reply #88 - 02/29/16 at 10:28:11
 
does anyone believe Donald Trump is being audited because he's a "strong Christian"?!  

I have a lot of problems with Donald Trump but one of them is his habit of tossing out one-liners, with no basis in facts, to questions without really thinking.

Obama already lies half the time, Hillary lies every time she opens her mouth, so I don't know why we would want a Republican president does the same.

Trump is a con artist in the sense that he is portraying himself to be something he's not,  which is someone worthy to be president of United States.
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Reply #89 - 02/29/16 at 16:54:12
 
Does anyone really want an orange President?... Huh
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