Donate!
Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register :: View Members
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print
If you could..... what would you change (Read 148 times)
raydawg
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 11551
pacific northwest
Gender: male
If you could..... what would you change
03/03/16 at 16:31:23
 
About our current system of government?

I have lots of ideas, but I will go with taxes.

The current system greatly favors the rich.
Why should anybody get a second house write-off for a boat, motor-home, or another house, when many can not even get into their first and only house?

Why all the pages and pages of tax code?
Must be to confuse, and thwart, any real attempt at stopping their loopholes, etc.

I would implement a flat consumption tax.
I would take all the current tax folk displaced by the change and put them in a "collection booth" at all stores, restaurants, bars, etc....
to gather the taxes.
The federal level would get their cut, state and local, too.
If a state charges too much, or a county, go elsewhere!

Even tourist and illegal aliens would now contribute, as they should.

No write offs of any kind, period.

Those who still lack the capacity to consume, a federal/state run facility would supply their needs, IF......
they prove worthy and in real need, and those of able body must do work of some nature like they did in the great depression, I think it was the CCC camps  link: http://www.history.com/topics/civilian-conservation-corps

I believe it would give more people a "fair shake" and restore our middle class.

Agree, disagree, or list your own ideas  Smiley
Back to top
 
 

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
  IP Logged
justin_o_guy2
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #1 - 03/03/16 at 16:37:36
 
Just as the masses have been raised to believe that the federal reserve is necessary,they also don't know what America was like before income tax.
Just how much of Your earnings Should you be allowed to keep?
Back to top
 
 

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
  IP Logged
verslagen1
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

Where there's a
will, I want to be
in it.

Posts: 29042
L.A. California
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #2 - 03/03/16 at 16:56:49
 
I would change the rounding down on fees.
all excess fees go to me.
Back to top
 
 
WWW   IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29677
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #3 - 03/03/16 at 21:38:29
 
I agree with your premise,... but a consumption tax, always favors the rich...
The poor and middle spend all they have... the rich just watch it pile up...

A "flat" tax... is also a myth...  It only works logically, with wages...
The rich,... don't have wages...   they don't work for other people...

Income taxes are complicated...
There are two sides to the calculation...
Most solutions only tackle one...
The rate...
The other,...is calculating the income...
That's easy for hourly, or salaried workers...
Not so,.. for the Mitts and Donalds...  
They have gains and losses,.. capital and interest,...liabilities and projections...
..and that's where 99% of the money slips through the loopholes...
..  and that's where the money greases the wheels... Huh

Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
raydawg
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 11551
pacific northwest
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #4 - 03/04/16 at 04:10:33
 
Can you give me an idea of what would work better, or?

I am thinking the rich buy higher ticketed items, therefor they would pay more.
And too, if we catch all the tax from consuming, it would seem to me to catch those who skate by with shady write-offs, etc, that go undetected from audits.
I know many who are not rich, but use the system to avoid paying their share, example, they collectively gross around 50 thousand, and still get back thousands each year, and they claim deductions that they never had.
These folks are not really good targets for the IRS as it takes more resources to catch these small fries than what they get back....
Now how many cheaters fall into that category?
These are folks who blow (consume) their hole paychecks on crap, toys, vacations, etc, never thinking about tomorrow.....
So, I think in shear numbers it would capture a lot of tax revenue that presently escapes the system.

Bot, once we have exceptions, tax codes to assist/exempt anybody, then we have created a loophole.

I would rather have a different stand alone program that would answer that issue itself.

I think folks are willing to help those who really need it, its the deadbeats...... and I don't know how many that really is, that spoils it for all.

Give me some ideas  Smiley
Back to top
 
 

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
  IP Logged
raydawg
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 11551
pacific northwest
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #5 - 03/04/16 at 05:00:56
 
Just wanted to say one more thing  Grin

When we cheat, we really are cheating ourself AND as such, accepting and sanctioning the cheating by others against us  Angry

Those who think dead beating and milking the system is only taking from a corrupt government, is ok, they fail to see, or deny, they are taking from the single mom who's husband died and subjecting that child to most likely, a life of poverty..... Etc.
Back to top
 
 

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 14439

Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #6 - 03/04/16 at 05:57:30
 
Geez......rich, rich rich.....  let it go already. The "rich" paying their fair share (whatever that means) accomplishes nothing. Go bet rich yourself or shut the hell up about it.

You want to change something? Get rid of automatic tax deductions from paychecks. Let people get their full paycheck in their hands and then write checks to the federal government, the state, the city for their tax bill. $hit would change pretty quick. We'd pay for roads, military etc.. but some of the crap we waste money on would go away.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
Serowbot
YaBB Moderator
ModSquad
*****
Offline

OK.... so what's the
speed of dark?

Posts: 29677
Tucson Az
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #7 - 03/04/16 at 07:07:09
 
Would you have all purchases taxed at the same rate?...
Food,.. vs private jets?....

What would happen to the housing market, if a $200k home had $60k tax added on?....
$10,000 tax on a $20,000 car?...

Arizona already pays 8% state tax on non-food items... That rate would go to near 40% with Federal added... assuming a 33% federal rate.
Would credit purchases be taxed at time of purchase?... This would make billions for the credit card companies and lenders...

Huh
Back to top
 
 

Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
  IP Logged
old.indian
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

Fighting Foreign
Terrorism since 1492

Posts: 975
Central New Mexico
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #8 - 03/04/16 at 08:05:53
 
Enact strictly enforced Ethics Laws that would apply to both Government and private industry.  Penalties would be harsh, Government corruption would be treated as Treason, and white collar crime the same as violent crime.  
A couple of corrupt politicians and lobbyist executed for treason....  Burnie Madoff and a few Wall Street suits on death row ... I think you would find the economy, and life in general would improve quickly...... Cool
   I'm not certain how we could punish "Stupidity" though....  Undecided  
Back to top
 
 

Lectron carb, modified head, stage 3 cam, Wiseco piston, header and Dyna, Varsi's cam chain adjuster, head plug and drilled rotor, Tkat, 12" shocks and 17/43 chain conversion.EdL's 4"FCs
  IP Logged
raydawg
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 11551
pacific northwest
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #9 - 03/04/16 at 08:09:52
 
Webby, you can do better that that 😀

Bot, the jet fuel, etc, would be taxed at its value, which is more than a cup if yogurt 😜
Keep in mind you can control your tax liability by controling your spending.  Think rates would drop as volume of collection increases and no more property tax, etc, just one source of tax revenue, consuming. No payroll tax, etc. we have to keep it simple, uh, stupid
Back to top
 
 

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 14439

Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #10 - 03/04/16 at 09:04:44
 

From one of the smarter men in America.......read and understand.

http://townhall.com/columnists/walterewilliams/2016/03/02/what-is-the-fair-sh...
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
WebsterMark
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 14439

Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #11 - 03/04/16 at 09:10:47
 
A constitution amendment stating federal government cannot spend, and tax to cover that spending, more than a specified percentage of GDP. 15% maybe. also, cannot go into debt without 90% congressional approval or 75% when war has been declared and approved by congress. just pulled those numbers outta thin air (litteraly since I'm on a plane right now!) but its a place to start.

states could followup with their own limits.
Back to top
 
 
  IP Logged
justin_o_guy2
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #12 - 03/04/16 at 13:40:02
 
Spend some time. Reconsider what Everybody Knows. How much time did the government owned and operated school spend teaching us how money is created.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-15/100-years-old-still-killing-us-ameri...
History of the Federal Reserve - Federal Reserve Education.org
Federal Reserve Education › about-the-fed
In 1893, a banking panic triggered the worst depression the United States had ever ... Before the new central bank could begin operations, the Reserve Bank .... set above the prevailing Fed Funds rate and provide rationing of loans to banks ...
The Federal Reserve: CNBC Explains - CNBC.com
CNBC › ...
Mar 18, 2015 - Most people have no idea how the Fed works, what it actually does and why its decisions have so ...
Before the Income Tax - The New American
www.thenewamerican.com › history › item
Jan 18, 2013 - Prior to ratification of the 16th (income tax) Amendment in February 1913, the federal government ...
Why an Income Tax is Not Necessary to Fund the U.S. ...


www.devvy.com › notax
How? Because the politicians are $800 billion dollars short, they simply call up Al ... The "Federal" Reserve Banks don't loan anything of value to Congress. .... Prior to the Federal Department of Education, America had the finest schools in the

...
Who Owns The Federal Reserve? | Global Research - Centre for ...


www.globalresearch.ca › who-owns-the-f...
Sep 30, 2015 - Region: USA ... U.S. government bonds (or debt) to fund the Fed, which is itself supposedly ... “The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were .... She shows how this private cartel has usurped the power to create ...
JFK Vs The Federal Reserve - Rense.com
www.rense.com › general76 › jfkvs
Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, .... No man did more to expose the power of the FED than Louis T. McFadden, who ... 12, 1963,; Ten days before his assassination, President John Fitzgerald ...
Federal Reserve ~ The Enemy Of America
www.apfn.org › apfn › reserve2
Prior to 1929 the government had never intervened to help recovery from a .... When the Fed was passed, the people of the United States did not perceive that a ... How U.S. Gold Reserves Were Stolen



http://www.google.com/search?q=hoe+did+the+United+States++fund+itself+prior+t...

Check it out. We've been enslaved and convinced that it's the best way for America to go.
Back to top
 
 

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
  IP Logged
raydawg
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 11551
pacific northwest
Gender: male
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #13 - 03/04/16 at 17:05:07
 
Our money is OURS, not theirs, and if we keep more of it, a lot of the current problems would remedy themselves.

We must start with a simple, understandable, equitable way to pay for the systems we do need, to live as a modern society.

Not to fund all the other questionable, objectionable, etc, programs the politicians have created to ensure their reelection and power base.....
Back to top
 
 

“The biggest big business in America is not steel, automobiles, or television. It is the manufacture, refinement and distribution of anxiety.”—Eric Sevareid (1964)
  IP Logged
justin_o_guy2
Serious Thumper
*****
Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.
Re: If you could..... what would you change
Reply #14 - 03/04/16 at 17:19:36
 
We must address the Source of what we have been Taught is money. The Federal Reserve is NOT Federal, at all. We, as a nation, BORROW every dollar into existence, with interest owed on it. We don't Have money, we have currency.
Why would Henry Ford have said that If the American people understood how the monetary system worked, there would be a Rebellion by morning,,,? Was he an idiot?
All the clues I've posted, spend time, go look.
Understand that the whole thing is a racket.
Back to top
 
 

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.
  IP Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 
Send Topic Print


« Home

 
« Home
SuzukiSavage.com
12/18/25 at 12:32:36



General CategoryPolitics, Religion (Tall Table) › If you could..... what would you change


SuzukiSavage.com » Powered by YaBB 2.2!
YaBB © 2000-2007. All Rights Reserved.