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Reply #15 - 03/15/16 at 06:49:41
 
Paraquat wrote on 03/15/16 at 06:10:29:
"Why aren't there protests at Clinton or Sanders' rallies?

Everyone's at work"


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Reply #16 - 03/15/16 at 08:11:05
 
Hitler, was a bleeding heart liberal...  Huh
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Reply #17 - 03/15/16 at 08:52:22
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/15/16 at 05:00:29:
Show me a few specific examples from his speeches that demostrate his racism.

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I'll swap a few 'Mexican immigrant' or 'Muslim terrorist' or 'Obama's birthplace' quotes for a couple of these tyrants' names.....
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Reply #18 - 03/15/16 at 10:11:25
 
none of those are racist quotes. you might not agree with them, but they're not racist.


during last Friday's "protest" at the Trump rally in Chicago, one of the news stations were asking some of the more juvenile, obnoxious ones just exactly why they were there,. like you, they couldn't give a clear answer or  articulate a specific readon why they were acting like that. All they knew was they were suppose to be against Trump

Long flight from Chicago back home for you?
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Reply #19 - 03/15/16 at 10:57:17
 
Can you see wind?
Or just effects of it......

I believe most people are looking at Trump as the damage caused by the wind, not the reason why the wind was formed.

The "left" has used academia. media, courts, etc, to govern and promote polices.
FOX news, etc, being the result from the media/news vacuum.

The left has effectively render the right impotent, since Reagan, who was able to harness this very same energy of middle class workers, the Reagan democrat it was referred to.

Ross Perot was able to tap into that same vein.

And the Tea Party.

This is really no party, but just an amalgamation of disenfranchised folks who feel neither party has their welfare at heart.

This motivation is what drives the BLM, Gay, minority, etc, groups....
When they vocalize and act out in demonstration, its it reported as a sign to the voracity of their claim(s).

Yet, with those "Trump supporters"  they are labeled and criticized, for the very same actions others are herald....

And this HYPOCRISY is what really is driving those who feel they no longer have a say.....

I tell you this, it is not just white angry men, you believe this, then you are blind to the truth.....and a fool, I might add.
For any hope in saving this nation rest in understanding ALL its citizens and giving them their say, even if we don't agree.

 
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Reply #20 - 03/15/16 at 11:57:29
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/15/16 at 10:11:25:
none of those are racist quotes. you might not agree with them, but they're not racist.

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Oh, so you're familiar with the quotes....saves me a google!  Grin

So if someone is a 'rapist' because they are from a neighboring country, oh but there's probably some good guys as well....

Surely wanting to ban some of the son's of Abraham from entering the US but allowing others is racist?

Take Trump's words and substitute the word 'Muslim' with the word 'Jew' and tell me it doesn't remind you of someone....and even he wasn't as obnoxiously vain as to call himself 'The Adolf' ......

No, most of the tyrants have megalomonia as a common trait;  Hitler,  Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Napoleon.

Mark, can I expect your list of tyrants?

PS. I can give many reasons why I hate Trump, all coherent and articulate. Why compare me with juvenile protesters?
No-one has even told me I'm supposed to be against Trump, his policies are enough.....


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Reply #21 - 03/15/16 at 12:09:03
 
HovisPresley wrote on 03/15/16 at 11:57:29:
PS. I can give many reasons why I hate Trump, all coherent and articulate.


Please feel free to elaborate.

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Reply #22 - 03/15/16 at 12:26:50
 
HovisPresley wrote on 03/15/16 at 11:57:29:
WebsterMark wrote on 03/15/16 at 10:11:25:
none of those are racist quotes. you might not agree with them, but they're not racist.

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Oh, so you're familiar with the quotes....saves me a google!  Grin

So if someone is a 'rapist' because they are from a neighboring country, oh but there's probably some good guys as well....

Surely wanting to ban some of the son's of Abraham from entering the US but allowing others is racist?

Take Trump's words and substitute the word 'Muslim' with the word 'Jew' and tell me it doesn't remind you of someone....and even he wasn't as obnoxiously vain as to call himself 'The Adolf' ......

No, most of the tyrants have megalomonia as a common trait;  Hitler,  Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Stalin, Napoleon.

Mark, can I expect your list of tyrants?

PS. I can give many reasons why I hate Trump, all coherent and articulate. Why compare me with juvenile protesters?
No-one has even told me I'm supposed to be against Trump, his policies are enough.....




Do you really hate him?

Its ok for you to hate, but not others?

Tell me Hov, how does hate advance anything, and how does harboring such emotions serve you?
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Reply #23 - 03/15/16 at 13:16:46
 
"Its ok for you to hate, but not others?"

No, I don't really hate hm, it's more a feeling of disgust.
Others can hate or not hate as is their will.

Hate doesn't advance anything.
I'm not expecting any emotion I have toward Mr Trump to serve me, or advance anything.

His personality is one that makes me shudder, whether he is mocking the disabled in front of the cameras, to the 'probably dating his own daughter if she weren't his daughter' line.

His policies speak for themselves.

Ray, why can I picture you in a vicar's 'dog-collar' when I read your last line? (erotic fantasies aside)
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Reply #24 - 03/15/16 at 13:59:09
 
Let's try to stay with the truth.
That's gonna require using the WHOLE quote.
Trump said ban Muslims coming in, Until we get things figured out.

Who is COMING to America?
I don't care what country you're talking about.
Business owners? Community leaders?


Anyone else remember watching the western movies, and the bad guys, heading for the border?

Some of the people are just good, hard working folks, but, I would hazard a guess that IF a guy could stop time and go have a look at everyone who is headed to the border and just crossed it, interview all,, and then compare those people to the ones who aren't coming.

I'd expect to find that, on average,the number of all around no good, sorry low life types is higher in the immigrant population than one would find in the Mexican population overall.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, I know that,
The number of insane Catholics and Christians and Atheists
who have blown stuff up or shot people is pretty low.
Operating cautiously, so what?  YOU adopt everyone, I stand by Trump on THAT issue.
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Reply #25 - 03/15/16 at 14:39:22
 
Hitler's rhetoric inspired the disgruntled too...
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Reply #26 - 03/15/16 at 15:16:54
 
JoG, that theory would suggest that relatively speaking, Americans and Australians, for example, are more likely to be 'low-lives' than native Europeans.....

I was brought up hearing the news about Catholics and Protestants bombing or shooting each other almost every day here in the British Isles.....
The biggest bloodshed known to man was between two Christian groups, with rarely a muslim (or Mexican!) involved.
That was shortly after the previous biggest bloodshed known to man, twenty years earlier, that was basically mad imperial Christians having a go at each other and millions dying as a result.

The quote about 'banning Muslims coming in until we get things figured out' is surely about banning Muslims ad infinitum..... as I don't think Trump can sort out 1000 years of religious strife...unless The Donald is the new messiah.....(there's a thought.)
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Reply #27 - 03/15/16 at 15:20:21
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/15/16 at 14:39:22:
Hitler's rhetoric inspired the disgruntled too...


We must get the disgruntled to grunt more to stop that from happening.
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Reply #28 - 03/15/16 at 15:29:55
 
Ray, why can I picture you in a vicar's 'dog-collar' when I read your last line? (erotic fantasies aside)

Hov, I would say you are clairvoyant, and my wife has spent years getting me this way  Kiss

Now looky here, you fell into your own trap.
You used the word hate, then upon further dialogue backed out of it with a better explanation, of what you really meant/mean.

But once uttered, it has the opacity to spawn more of the same, based on what a person is looking for, to begin with....

Example, say you got some Bot like mentality folk out there, they read your declaration of hate, toward Trump.
Now armed with affirmation, of your claim, their feelings have been justified and some might even extend that, to their actions......

This is what I am trying to point out, the danger of demagoguery of ANYBODY or ANY party, or BELIEF.
It is lazy reasoning, disingenuous, and intellectually corrupted.  

We all fall victim to this crap, and until we own our own hypocrisy, we won't ever get to a resolution where we can all live in harmony, as the unique individual(s) we all are.
Obama even made a pretty good reference to this type of  thinking today in a speech.

BTW, for the record, I can't grasp the connection to Trump, on a personal level/connection, why they believe he can deliver on the "things" that trouble them about our current state of affairs.

My perception of the man is he is nothing more than a charlatan.....

But again, this is testimony to how bankrupt ( pun intended ) the USA is in its political process, where on the flip side you have Hillary that utters the same kind of crap, less the scrutiny.

You gotta a Queen or King you can loan us buddy?  Grin
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Reply #29 - 03/15/16 at 15:43:18
 
HovisPresley wrote on 03/15/16 at 15:20:21:
We must get the disgruntled to grunt more to stop that from happening.


WE, you're on the other side of the pond.  What your guy and the pig?   Grin

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