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Shallow reasoning or poor sport?
03/20/16 at 08:09:01
 
I have read the comments of Biden re: SC nominee, when the shoe was on the other foot, and yes, hypocrisy no knows boundaries.....

However, when is this "getting even" mentality by the parties going to change, if ever?

Is this bullchit not part of why we have people supporting Trump?

Anyway, why is Merrick Garland not a consideration for the SC?

You can find lots of good reports of him, and he has the extremes and fringe of the parties both agreeing he is not their Judge, which means to me then he might be a very good pick....

Can someone explain why he should not get a fair hearing and considerations?  
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Reply #1 - 03/20/16 at 09:55:48
 
I'll hafta look at the guy, but, the
Getting Even
thing is just shadow boxing. There's no Real rivalry between the parties. It's All for the Establishment, not the People. Were there Truly a separation of ideology, we would see legislation repealed after the voters got fed up with the B.S.and voted the bums out.
Please note, when a Particularly controversial piece of legislation comes up now, they All step back, wring their hands, and, with much fanfare, they put aside their
Differences
and, bilaterally, For the Good of the People, make the Hard  choices. Why? Because neither party wants to be blamed for the results.
How many Former congressmen live in poverty? Just what IS the cost of Not being reelected? How many times do we see people who were in D.C. go to work for a company that they Were in a position to oversee when they were an elected
Representative?

Anything you have on this guy that would make me like him, or not, post links.
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Reply #2 - 03/20/16 at 09:59:41
 
Didn't take long

Garland's vote called for a review of the court's ruling, which invalidated the handgun ban. All 10 judges would have been a part of that decision.

He has no grasp of the constitution or freedom.
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Reply #3 - 03/20/16 at 10:14:23
 
Rep's are hoping for a hail Mary miracle.
Odds are,.. Hillary will be next, and this bird in the hand will be taken away...
Congress 2016?.. toss Up or Worse: 18 Rep, 4 Dem

If things go as expected... there will be a much more Liberal nominee to come.
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Reply #4 - 03/20/16 at 10:42:37
 
Yeah, odds are, I was right, when Obama was selected.
Which would, for the astute, create some questions about the system.
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Reply #5 - 03/20/16 at 11:21:31
 
Serowbot wrote on 03/20/16 at 10:14:23:
Rep's are hoping for a hail Mary miracle.
Odds are,.. Hillary will be next, and this bird in the hand will be taken away...
Congress 2016?.. toss Up or Worse: 18 Rep, 4 Dem

If things go as expected... there will be a much more Liberal nominee to come.


Not so sure.....
The Clinton's are about themselves.
She would never seat a judge who might take away her power of self.

They would be happy as a Monarchy.

Remember triangulation.....???

Keeps them playing the ends, against the middle, to their bidding.

Watch and see.
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Reply #6 - 03/20/16 at 11:58:34
 
Loading up the bench to back up the administration isn't giving up power. She is happy to have robe wearing cohorts to assist in her efforts.
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Reply #7 - 03/20/16 at 12:19:13
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/20/16 at 11:58:34:
Loading up the bench to back up the administration isn't giving up power. She is happy to have robe wearing cohorts to assist in her efforts.


I think you are not looking at it correctly.

Look, it took a little kid to tell the king he was butt-azzed nekked  Grin

It is poor judgement, not wise, to seek from one source.
Remember the Clinton's sought out Richard Morris ( won't let me use his name DicX )  to advise them of what their own beliefs did not avail.

She knows her only real chance to be elected was to tap the democrats for a ride, not that she will govern to their demands.

It will be her own welfare and legacy that TRUMPS  Grin
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Reply #8 - 03/20/16 at 13:42:47
 
I'm sure that from your perspective, knowing what you know, how things connect, you believe that was somehow informative and somehow gonna change my perspective, but I don't follow, at all. How does any of that keep Hillary from using the Bench to further her ability to drive policy? Why would anyone turn away from a known and proven tactic? Doesn't make sense. Like Not taking the armed goons with you to a brawl. She wouldn't be giving up power, it would just be more.
Yeah, it would be power, Not straight from her office, and I think I get where you're coming from, that she would want the dictatorial powers and everything done To America was Done by Her, but I think she understands how it works and the end goal means utilizing every tool in the toolbox. She would send the military, not go kill everyone. She would use the court,
Just my opinion.
Explain why otherwise.
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Reply #9 - 03/20/16 at 15:04:09
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/20/16 at 13:42:47:
I'm sure that from your perspective, knowing what you know, how things connect, you believe that was somehow informative and somehow gonna change my perspective, but I don't follow, at all. How does any of that keep Hillary from using the Bench to further her ability to drive policy? Why would anyone turn away from a known and proven tactic? Doesn't make sense. Like Not taking the armed goons with you to a brawl. She wouldn't be giving up power, it would just be more.
Yeah, it would be power, Not straight from her office, and I think I get where you're coming from, that she would want the dictatorial powers and everything done To America was Done by Her, but I think she understands how it works and the end goal means utilizing every tool in the toolbox. She would send the military, not go kill everyone. She would use the court,
Just my opinion.
Explain why otherwise.


Let me try this explanation.....

If a "present" court is lock, stop, and barrel in agreement on any given issue, it would be an absolute.

Clinton does not like absolutes, in leaves them less wiggle room if they need to alter, what it was they said, or did, if it doesn't further her own need.

With a divided court, it is to her advantage then, as an excuse why something did, or didn't get done.

This lady is conniving and manipulating, way more than LBJ even.....
And to her I bet she thinks all things are fair, if it gets her what she wants, for the moment.

Is that any better?
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Reply #10 - 03/20/16 at 15:36:39
 
Considering the long history of presidents trying to stack the court so that one side always gets its way, I can't agree with you, but, at least that makes your thinking understandable.
It's a bit convoluted even for me.
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Reply #11 - 03/20/16 at 16:18:24
 
If she stacked the court, and all were in agreement AT FIRST, it would indeed make her better able to circumvent the other branch.
But these folks are pretty much all egoistical and in compition with each other, we all like to think we are right, etc.
but that power will corrupt, and once corrupted it will devour others before itself.
She won't like be told no, they won't like the impingement upon their turf....
It's a very simple study of ego, where their can only be one top dawg....

Even the biggest ship in the world will tilt and sink if it's loading of its cargo is to only one side

It's sorta why we have two party system, and you never hear them say we only need one, why?
It's because upon failure you can blame the other as the reason why.
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Reply #12 - 03/20/16 at 16:45:17
 
Looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree.
They
aren't calling for a
One party
system, but it looks like one.
As for the
Have someone to blame
idea, that has merit. But, stuff doesn't get to the SC like legislation through congress. The SC has been being stacked for ever. She is gonna do the same.
I'm pretty sure it's just a waiting game,,
We can see who is right.
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Reply #13 - 03/20/16 at 18:35:34
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/20/16 at 16:45:17:
Looks like we are going to have to agree to disagree.
They
aren't calling for a
One party
system, but it looks like one.
As for the
Have someone to blame
idea, that has merit. But, stuff doesn't get to the SC like legislation through congress. The SC has been being stacked for ever. She is gonna do the same.
I'm pretty sure it's just a waiting game,,
We can see who is right.


Gotcha.....agreed  Grin

But one final observation/thought.

Trump is only where he is BECAUSE people are really pizzed.
As with Perot, and the Tea Party, they are pizzed at what the SC is doing to advance a minority (cause) without  equal considerations.

Case in point: Affirmative action. On its own merit, trying to give an opportunity to those who really have had a bad time of it, by giving them a chance at education and a way out and up....

Can't fault that thinking or motivation, HOWEVER, what about the guy who could NOT get into higher education because of financial circumstance, and would have academically won that scholarship if all things were equal, but didn't because the spot went to a lessor academically capable person who won it on race only considerations.

How then can that system, that has been adversely effecting a race, be satisfied with using discrimination, to implement a so called repair?

It's not.

Bernie is right, we need schools available to everyone who wants it.
But that would require the universities, etc, to not operate on profit, etc, and again, we are back to money.

Anyway, the anger will grow, it will not abate, and Hillary is keen on knowing she has to appeal and appease this mob too, or else.

It will forevermore be a part of the political landscape, and as social media grows, and it will, as dinosaurs like me fade away to oblivion, the youngsters will become more demanding about openness to what these hacks are pulling off, without gathering their information from a propagandizing media.  
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Reply #14 - 03/20/16 at 18:39:31
 
I think rib eye steaks should be given to everyone who wants one.

See how dumb that looks.
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